Does anyone have any experience with Bully brand security chains?
https://www.bullylocks.com/blweb.nsf/...9?opendocument
This noose chain, case hardened, tempered, is 5'6", longer than the NYNoose. I noticed the Noose was four star rated by ART, and Bully isn't submitted, so don't know how strong it is. Also, how come OnGuard doesn't make their noose mastiff any more?

The best chains from Kryptonite, OnGuard and Abus are highly rated by the ART Foundation, by Soldsecure.com, and by "Cycling Plus". Why even think about a brand that is NOT rated by any of those organizations?

That's what I told myself. And I looked at the ART and Solidsecure sites, and the archives here. But the Bully is 5'6" and a cinch loop/noose--so you can get a lot of length out of it. This is for a scooter and I can't park on the sidewalk, so need more room to get to a pole. The NY Noose is only 4'3". (Why post to a bicycle forum, you ask? You all seem to have a better handle on security than the scooter folks, to be frank.)

I was hoping someone else had looked into Bully. It's case-hardened, but that could still be easy to cut. I couldn't find the kryptonite noose tested in solid secure, but it did get a four star rating from ART with the NY lock. Abus has a noose too, but not rated. A lot of the different chains got four stars, which is promising.

jkandell - good that you are looking into this so closely. Security is nothing to take lightly (no pun intended, as the chains are heavy!). I can't answer any questions for you about the other brand - other than to point out that, while it is a long chain, it doesn't come with a lock....
However, I can tell you a little about the New York Noose. We didn't submit it to Sold Secure, it wasn't that it didn't pass. As Alanbikehouston mentioned, Kryptonite's New York Chain has passed Sold Secure's highest level (gold). The chain for the New York Noose and the lock that comes with it (Evolution Disc Lock) are the same that we use for the New York Noose. The only difference being the big round end link.
ART Foundation, in Holland, has passed the New York Noose (both lengths) at its highest level (4).
Hope that helps a little bit.
Whichever locks/chains you look at, please take in to consideration the additional benefits you may, or may not, get with a lock purchase. Does it have a warranty? Does it have an anti-theft protection offer (read all the fine print there!)? Does it have key replacement services? Things like that.
Good luck with your decision, jkandell. Of course, I'd like to hear that you chose Kryptonite, but whatever brand you choose, please do take the time to lock properly each and every time - even when you are at home. This is the best way to insure you defeat thieves every time.
Donna

Ok, should have reread my comments before posting...is it time to go home yet???
When I'm talking about the New York Noose....it's the same chain and disc lock that we use for the New York Chain.....I promise to be more alert next time....maybe I need some pick-me-up-chocolate...