Walking as a Second Language
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Due to the surrounding topography, I walk (pushing the bike) on most of the rides I take. The farthest I can go without having to push is about six or seven miles, going north. West about three miles is a nice deep river valley. East or south I can't go a mile without needing to push up something to get home. It kinda sucks because all the best scenic routes are in roller-coaster country. Secondary and light-duty paved roads that go straight up and down the sides of ravines; they're short but vicious. I still don't understand why so many around here are like that.
I'm hoping to improve the condition of my engine, but a lot of this stuff was too steep to climb even back when I was young and in a lot better shape--and had better granny gears than I have now. I remember one--I no longer know just where it is--that had a sign saying "Blister Hill." Stand at the bottom of it and tilt your head up about thirty degrees to see the top of it. I think I may have actually gone up that one just for the descent ... not today.
Ride, ride, push, push.
I'm hoping to improve the condition of my engine, but a lot of this stuff was too steep to climb even back when I was young and in a lot better shape--and had better granny gears than I have now. I remember one--I no longer know just where it is--that had a sign saying "Blister Hill." Stand at the bottom of it and tilt your head up about thirty degrees to see the top of it. I think I may have actually gone up that one just for the descent ... not today.
Ride, ride, push, push.
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Due to the surrounding topography, I walk (pushing the bike) on most of the rides I take. The farthest I can go without having to push is about six or seven miles, going north. West about three miles is a nice deep river valley. East or south I can't go a mile without needing to push up something to get home. It kinda sucks because all the best scenic routes are in roller-coaster country. Secondary and light-duty paved roads that go straight up and down the sides of ravines; they're short but vicious. I still don't understand why so many around here are like that.
I'm hoping to improve the condition of my engine, but a lot of this stuff was too steep to climb even back when I was young and in a lot better shape--and had better granny gears than I have now. I remember one--I no longer know just where it is--that had a sign saying "Blister Hill." Stand at the bottom of it and tilt your head up about thirty degrees to see the top of it. I think I may have actually gone up that one just for the descent ... not today.
Ride, ride, push, push.
I'm hoping to improve the condition of my engine, but a lot of this stuff was too steep to climb even back when I was young and in a lot better shape--and had better granny gears than I have now. I remember one--I no longer know just where it is--that had a sign saying "Blister Hill." Stand at the bottom of it and tilt your head up about thirty degrees to see the top of it. I think I may have actually gone up that one just for the descent ... not today.
Ride, ride, push, push.
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I love walking every since I was a kid (I love to explore), as my father did before me. Unfortunately walking and aerobic are functionally exclusive unless you're an octogenarian. So pardon me if I'm repeating myself, but I know waking and its not going to help unless you measure it against nothing, or until you're in your 80s. Which doesn't mean anyone can't still enjoy it. I always do.
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I love walking every since I was a kid (I love to explore), as my father did before me. Unfortunately walking and aerobic are functionally exclusive unless you're an octogenarian. So pardon me if I'm repeating myself, but I know waking and its not going to help unless you measure it against nothing, or until you're in your 80s. Which doesn't mean anyone can't still enjoy it. I always do.
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For everyone else walking just won't do it. That is, unless you're talking about walking up 100 stories every day? Otherwise, it isn't enough to illicit any significant beneficial change. Does it burn calories? Yes. Than again, so does sleeping.
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Walking as an exercise
I guess I was curious as to your source. Again, this is contrary to everything I have ever read. At one time, I was working towards a degree in health ed so I could become a teacher after I retired from my current job. Back then, swimming was the king of low impact high aerobic exercise with walking coming in a decently close second. Maybe the thinking has changed, as this stuff tends to, but then walking was considered great exercise for everyone. I am not talking about wandering around the mall but at a higher intensity.
A quick google supports what I thought but maybe there is newer research out there I am missing...
Walking as an exercise
Actually, I thought I had. But my point here is to put it in context. It will work just fine if you're a member of the niche group I specified. Those in rehab would be another perfectly good example of some individuals that could benefit from walking. These are the people that can take it as a serious viable path to improved health.
For everyone else walking just won't do it. That is, unless you're talking about walking up 100 stories every day? Otherwise, it isn't enough to illicit any significant beneficial change. Does it burn calories? Yes. Than again, so does sleeping.
For everyone else walking just won't do it. That is, unless you're talking about walking up 100 stories every day? Otherwise, it isn't enough to illicit any significant beneficial change. Does it burn calories? Yes. Than again, so does sleeping.
A quick google supports what I thought but maybe there is newer research out there I am missing...
Walking as an exercise
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Walking as an exercise
I guess I was curious as to your source. Again, this is contrary to everything I have ever read. At one time, I was working towards a degree in health ed so I could become a teacher after I retired from my current job. Back then, swimming was the king of low impact high aerobic exercise with walking coming in a decently close second. Maybe the thinking has changed, as this stuff tends to, but then walking was considered great exercise for everyone. I am not talking about wandering around the mall but at a higher intensity.
A quick google supports what I thought but maybe there is newer research out there I am missing...
Walking as an exercise
I guess I was curious as to your source. Again, this is contrary to everything I have ever read. At one time, I was working towards a degree in health ed so I could become a teacher after I retired from my current job. Back then, swimming was the king of low impact high aerobic exercise with walking coming in a decently close second. Maybe the thinking has changed, as this stuff tends to, but then walking was considered great exercise for everyone. I am not talking about wandering around the mall but at a higher intensity.
A quick google supports what I thought but maybe there is newer research out there I am missing...
Walking as an exercise
... especially at the highest intensity you can handle. And it doesn't hurt to throw in some hills and stairs too, if you're able to do that.
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Agree with yarbrough462. Walking can indeed be beneficial exercise and may very well be aerobic at a faster pace. Walking Run Disney Events requires maintaining a 16mpm pace that will elevate heart rate and breathing. Walking a short 5K will take 48 minutes that also qualifies for the 30 minute minimum workout time. Walking a half marathon or full marathon--3.5hrs and 7hrs respectively, can also be considered as an endurance event.
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I think KraneXL means that if you are any kind of athlete, you can't walk fast enough to make it a real cardio exercise where your heart rate goes up and you have to start breathing harder. Unless you carry a pack or walk uphill all the time. I can walk really fast but it's not really an exercise. I have to run for that.
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I think KraneXL means that if you are any kind of athlete, you can't walk fast enough to make it a real cardio exercise where your heart rate goes up and you have to start breathing harder. Unless you carry a pack or walk uphill all the time. I can walk really fast but it's not really an exercise. I have to run for that.
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To June 2018 -- 725.57 km
To June 2017 -- 597.35 km
To June 2016 -- 512.12 km
To June 2015 -- 502.15 km
"Car free" for the past 100 days.
Turns out I've got severe arthritis in my right foot and moderate arthritis in my left foot. I'm hoping to see a podiatrist soon. No shoes are comfortable and every step hurts. But nevertheless, I need to walk ... it's how I get around. I'm not sure that any of the 110 km I've done this month have been "recreational". I think they've all been "utility" walking.
I've given up on running for the time being ... until a podiatrist checks things out.
To June 2017 -- 597.35 km
To June 2016 -- 512.12 km
To June 2015 -- 502.15 km
"Car free" for the past 100 days.
Turns out I've got severe arthritis in my right foot and moderate arthritis in my left foot. I'm hoping to see a podiatrist soon. No shoes are comfortable and every step hurts. But nevertheless, I need to walk ... it's how I get around. I'm not sure that any of the 110 km I've done this month have been "recreational". I think they've all been "utility" walking.
I've given up on running for the time being ... until a podiatrist checks things out.
Finished the first half of the year with 726.37 km of walking.
Uphill, downhill, flat. Mostly briskly with a backpack. Mostly utility.
Good way to keep my bones strong, burn a few calories, and help maintain my fitness level.
Also a good method of transportation.
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Agree with yarbrough462. Walking can indeed be beneficial exercise and may very well be aerobic at a faster pace. Walking Run Disney Events requires maintaining a 16mpm pace that will elevate heart rate and breathing. Walking a short 5K will take 48 minutes that also qualifies for the 30 minute minimum workout time. Walking a half marathon or full marathon--3.5hrs and 7hrs respectively, can also be considered as an endurance event.
I worked at it and got so I could run 10K, but I'm not sure about running 42.2 km. However, perhaps I could do a run 5K, walk 5K, run 5K, thing and complete a marathon.
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Even my 2 IRONMAN marathons were completed with 95% walking only transitioning into a trot or jog for very short distances. Like standing up while pedaling to work different muscles.
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I wonder if anyone else feels this way about walking vs riding... My riding consists of anywhere from 15 - 20 miles about 3 to 4 times a week on lightly hilly rough roads. During winter months I'll walk a couple of miles 4 to 5 times a week. Cycling makes me feel energized, makes me lose weight and I feel light on my feet even the next day. Walking, while good exercise, leaves me tired and my legs feeling heavy and sluggish. What say you?
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I wonder if anyone else feels this way about walking vs riding... My riding consists of anywhere from 15 - 20 miles about 3 to 4 times a week on lightly hilly rough roads. During winter months I'll walk a couple of miles 4 to 5 times a week. Cycling makes me feel energized, makes me lose weight and I feel light on my feet even the next day. Walking, while good exercise, leaves me tired and my legs feeling heavy and sluggish. What say you?
The only times I struggle with it are:
a) when I do 10+ km in a day.
b) when my arthritis flares up.
As far as exercising making me lose weight ... I have to exercise at least 90 minutes a day (average 10.5 hours a week) to see any weight loss. That's without modifying my diet. If I modify my diet, I can exercise a little bit less.
Exercise can be walking, cycling, or seemingly even more effective ... stair climbing.
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Planning to start alternating long walks and running at lunch next week. I've eased back on my walking over the past month, but need to pick it up again for the stress relief if nothing else.
I also want to add running 1-2 days during the week ... again for the stress relief, but also because I'm training for a 5K running event at the end of September. 5K is really short, but right now I'm running about 2K.
I also want to add running 1-2 days during the week ... again for the stress relief, but also because I'm training for a 5K running event at the end of September. 5K is really short, but right now I'm running about 2K.
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I wonder if anyone else feels this way about walking vs riding... My riding consists of anywhere from 15 - 20 miles about 3 to 4 times a week on lightly hilly rough roads. During winter months I'll walk a couple of miles 4 to 5 times a week. Cycling makes me feel energized, makes me lose weight and I feel light on my feet even the next day. Walking, while good exercise, leaves me tired and my legs feeling heavy and sluggish. What say you?
My mom wouldn't walk to the end of the block. In her view, walking was for plebeians, and that was something she wanted to get away from. My dad, on the other hand, would walk everywhere he needed to go, so I guess I inherited my love for walking from him.
While I still don't consider walking an adequate substitute to build aerobic capacity (unless you're in your 80s), I most certain cannot deny that it will calories. That's one reason I love it, and also makes it an excellent way to reduce guilt.
I walked 3 miles today just so I could burn the extra calories to enjoy a guilt free indulgence food. As long as you stay on the conservative side, keeping track of your total caloric intake is just that simple.
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I think KraneXL means that if you are any kind of athlete, you can't walk fast enough to make it a real cardio exercise where your heart rate goes up and you have to start breathing harder. Unless you carry a pack or walk uphill all the time. I can walk really fast but it's not really an exercise. I have to run for that.
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I wonder if anyone else feels this way about walking vs riding... My riding consists of anywhere from 15 - 20 miles about 3 to 4 times a week on lightly hilly rough roads. During winter months I'll walk a couple of miles 4 to 5 times a week. Cycling makes me feel energized, makes me lose weight and I feel light on my feet even the next day. Walking, while good exercise, leaves me tired and my legs feeling heavy and sluggish. What say you?
). Since October 20th (well according to Garmin Connect), I've walked at least 10 000 steps daily. I haven't noticed being tired after a walk but sometime feel tired after a ride if I pushed hard.
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As of September 2:
2018 -- 883.22 km
2017 -- 763.85 km
2016 -- 680.22 km
2015 -- 693.50 km
As of September 2:
2018 -- 883.22 km
2017 -- 763.85 km
2016 -- 680.22 km
2015 -- 693.50 km
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I think KraneXL means that if you are any kind of athlete, you can't walk fast enough to make it a real cardio exercise where your heart rate goes up and you have to start breathing harder. Unless you carry a pack or walk uphill all the time. I can walk really fast but it's not really an exercise. I have to run for that.
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Made it out biking on Saturday for 125.51 miles. Tomorrow the BOSS LADY and I go to Walt Disney World for her birthday and we will be walking the Parks plus early morning walking around Fort Wilderness. Time to get her walking again and to get my lazy butt moving for my Disney Marathon in January. Lost the speed part of my walking, sub 5 hour marathon time, so just want to get the distance back, similar to a bicycle riding hiatus and return.
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