Where are the MD peoples
#2201
Another chance to be savage:https://www.whiteclaybicycleclub.org/...CBC/savage.htm (no affiliation with Savageman)
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#2202
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From: Reisterstown, MD
https://www.whiteclaybicycleclub.org/...CBC/savage.htm (no affiliation with Savageman)

No ride in DE can be called "savage"
Their "savage" climbs?
Duck Hill- .3 miles long avg grade 12%, 16% max?
Fishing Creek- .77 mies long avg grade 12% 16% max?
Bald Eagle- .56 miles long avg grade 8% 11% max?
Red Hill- 2.43 miles long avg grade 4% 8% max?
So lets see what I did at the savageman tri.
Major climbs.
Climb out of westernport- (including the wall). .94 miles avg grade 10%, 31% max
Big Savage mtn- 7 miles long avg grade 7%, 12% max
Climb out of New Germany st park 3.24 miles long avg grade 4% 14% max
Another climb (dunno landmark)- .63 miles long avg grade 7% 15% max
Miller road- 1.2 miles long avg grade 7% 18% max
Yea, hills don't scare me anymore.
Anyhow, while I am going I should do my quick report. It was an awesome ride. For those who don't realize (as I didn't) there is a definite difference between a "ride" and a "race" I previewed the course a month prior to the race. And I thought i did pretty good. On that ride I had a moving time of 5:18 but a total time of 6:02. I did have a lot of stop time due to riding without support, trying call back to my wife to let her know where i was etc. But I did feel i had pushed pretty good when riding.
On race day, I shaved a good amount of time, finishing in 4:39, with a moving time of 4:33. It was a serious ball buster though. I have come to the conclusion that to improve on the hills I finally have to get off my fat behind and get to my weight loss. I am hoping to do this relay again next year and try to improve my time.
-D
#2203
RacerMike, My sympathies. Heal fast, boy.
NoRacer, I cruised through your hood yesterday on my B'more-Havre de Grace-Rocks State Park ride. I would've banged on your door and demanded waffles, but figured you were gone for work by 8am.
Charlie, I'm working on the beer run ride. Thanks for the pub suggestions. I'm was concentrating on 4- Ellicott Mills, Clipper City, Brewer's Art and DuClaw. Got a rough loop here. https://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/207704 Not too happy with it so far, but I'll work on it some more. I'm thinking of reducing it down to 3 pubs, more direct routes and fewer hills. Is your place an option for either a drinkery or a start/end point?
Barry, I couldn't make the TDP volunteer meeting last week. I'll be there this thurs. night and will do whatever they want me to do on Sunday. What/where are you volunteering?
NoRacer, I cruised through your hood yesterday on my B'more-Havre de Grace-Rocks State Park ride. I would've banged on your door and demanded waffles, but figured you were gone for work by 8am.
Charlie, I'm working on the beer run ride. Thanks for the pub suggestions. I'm was concentrating on 4- Ellicott Mills, Clipper City, Brewer's Art and DuClaw. Got a rough loop here. https://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/207704 Not too happy with it so far, but I'll work on it some more. I'm thinking of reducing it down to 3 pubs, more direct routes and fewer hills. Is your place an option for either a drinkery or a start/end point?
Barry, I couldn't make the TDP volunteer meeting last week. I'll be there this thurs. night and will do whatever they want me to do on Sunday. What/where are you volunteering?
#2204
Also, as a quick aside- 2008 was the first time I ever thought to tally or even to have a bike mileage goal. Mine was 5000 miles by the end of the year. I, quite honestly, had no idea whether I could accomplish that. Now I'm pushing to hit 7K. And so many others here who will likely break the 5k mark this year. Congrats and keep on pushin. -GB
#2205
Savageman
I don't know, there seems to be a bit of resemblance to Noracer 

The 45 mile route highlight is North Point State Park. If you have never been it is worthwhile to check out. When we were there on Sunday the foliage was very lush and green and we had a good fog that made it feel like you were standing on the edge of the world as you looked across the bay. I am really kicking myself for not bringing my camera as there were some very dramatic clouds later in the afternoon. But with that being said the ride out is through the very industrial part of Dundalk and not a lot of eye candy. I hate to say but not exactly my idea of a great recreational route but on the way back things get a bit nicer/interesting so the large turn out and the money going to a good cause helps make it a morning well spent riding.
So Veloellen nice looking family you got there.
From the feedback I have gotten so far it looks like my volunteer position is event photographer and to ride with the Mayor.
(Hobnobbing pays off.
)
Oh and speaking of the Mayor and Baltimore, we got an honorable mention for being a bicycle friendly city by LAB and Baltimore made it in the top ten list for a sustainable city, see BaltimoreSpokes.org for more info.
GB, my YTD millage is at 4.8K, I feel like a slacker.
Speaking of millage, anyone interested in riding with me sometime between Wednesday and Sunday to review the route markings? It should be at least a 13mph if not 16mph pace not counting stopping to paint arrows and such. The total millage will probably be above 60 miles.
RacerMike, Heal well and fast.
I don't know, there seems to be a bit of resemblance to Noracer 

The 45 mile route highlight is North Point State Park. If you have never been it is worthwhile to check out. When we were there on Sunday the foliage was very lush and green and we had a good fog that made it feel like you were standing on the edge of the world as you looked across the bay. I am really kicking myself for not bringing my camera as there were some very dramatic clouds later in the afternoon. But with that being said the ride out is through the very industrial part of Dundalk and not a lot of eye candy. I hate to say but not exactly my idea of a great recreational route but on the way back things get a bit nicer/interesting so the large turn out and the money going to a good cause helps make it a morning well spent riding.
So Veloellen nice looking family you got there.
From the feedback I have gotten so far it looks like my volunteer position is event photographer and to ride with the Mayor.
(Hobnobbing pays off.
) Oh and speaking of the Mayor and Baltimore, we got an honorable mention for being a bicycle friendly city by LAB and Baltimore made it in the top ten list for a sustainable city, see BaltimoreSpokes.org for more info.
GB, my YTD millage is at 4.8K, I feel like a slacker.
Speaking of millage, anyone interested in riding with me sometime between Wednesday and Sunday to review the route markings? It should be at least a 13mph if not 16mph pace not counting stopping to paint arrows and such. The total millage will probably be above 60 miles.
RacerMike, Heal well and fast.
#2206
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From: Baltimore,MD
Bikes: Madone 08,Trek520,Bianchi Pista,Raleigh Tandem,Cdale SuperV
Hi Barry,
I may be able to do the ride with you. I feel I should be doing a bit more bike advocacy work. Let me know when you're thinking, Friday? Can't say for sure but maybe.
Anybody meeting up at Seagull? I know Teacher Bob meets up with some other BBC riders, which I may do. Not sure I can keep up but I can try. My knee feels like toast after some running last week and a bit of hiking over the past two days on the AT. Good hike up to Annapolis Rock with my boys.
I haven't signed up for Tour De Port but may be doing it with my 10 year old on a tandem with my 4 in the tag a long.
Bob-08 is the first year that I've kept track. I remember thinking I would like to do ten thousand, not to be, probably end up around 6k, maybe 6500 by Jan 31.
Derath-I'm with you on trying to lose weight. 5000 miles and same weight. I'm now logging my cals vs cals burned and wow what an eye opener. Looking to drop 20 by end of year. I have come to like climbing where I used to avoid it, doing hill repeats as opposed to all that flat stuff I was doing at Montebello.
I may be able to do the ride with you. I feel I should be doing a bit more bike advocacy work. Let me know when you're thinking, Friday? Can't say for sure but maybe.
Anybody meeting up at Seagull? I know Teacher Bob meets up with some other BBC riders, which I may do. Not sure I can keep up but I can try. My knee feels like toast after some running last week and a bit of hiking over the past two days on the AT. Good hike up to Annapolis Rock with my boys.
I haven't signed up for Tour De Port but may be doing it with my 10 year old on a tandem with my 4 in the tag a long.
Bob-08 is the first year that I've kept track. I remember thinking I would like to do ten thousand, not to be, probably end up around 6k, maybe 6500 by Jan 31.
Derath-I'm with you on trying to lose weight. 5000 miles and same weight. I'm now logging my cals vs cals burned and wow what an eye opener. Looking to drop 20 by end of year. I have come to like climbing where I used to avoid it, doing hill repeats as opposed to all that flat stuff I was doing at Montebello.
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#2207
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From: Reisterstown, MD
Hi Barry,
Derath-I'm with you on trying to lose weight. 5000 miles and same weight. I'm now logging my cals vs cals burned and wow what an eye opener. Looking to drop 20 by end of year. I have come to like climbing where I used to avoid it, doing hill repeats as opposed to all that flat stuff I was doing at Montebello.
Derath-I'm with you on trying to lose weight. 5000 miles and same weight. I'm now logging my cals vs cals burned and wow what an eye opener. Looking to drop 20 by end of year. I have come to like climbing where I used to avoid it, doing hill repeats as opposed to all that flat stuff I was doing at Montebello.
-D
#2208
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From: Baltimore,MD
Bikes: Madone 08,Trek520,Bianchi Pista,Raleigh Tandem,Cdale SuperV
Derath,
That's my goal, just need to stay on track. For instance, two days camping with my kids equaled Orios, hot dogs, pretzels, etc. etc- now I pay. I've been using this website to track my calories vs activity and just trying to keep the numbers right. The weight goal I set for 12/31 means burning about 700 calories more per day than I eat. It's pretty revealing how much more food I eat than what I need. I've been around 203-208 for two years despite lots of riding, just putting in what I burn I suppose. I think I cracked the below 200 mark last week, before the camping trip. I'm a pretty big guy so even hitting 180 will be quite a feat, but one I'm committed to now. Once I get there I'll see if lower is possible.
You guys have been talking about triathlons. There's the Brierman out at Greenbrier SP. That's where I camped on Monday, nice place.
fitday.com
https://www.piranha-sports.com/Race31.aspx
That's my goal, just need to stay on track. For instance, two days camping with my kids equaled Orios, hot dogs, pretzels, etc. etc- now I pay. I've been using this website to track my calories vs activity and just trying to keep the numbers right. The weight goal I set for 12/31 means burning about 700 calories more per day than I eat. It's pretty revealing how much more food I eat than what I need. I've been around 203-208 for two years despite lots of riding, just putting in what I burn I suppose. I think I cracked the below 200 mark last week, before the camping trip. I'm a pretty big guy so even hitting 180 will be quite a feat, but one I'm committed to now. Once I get there I'll see if lower is possible.
You guys have been talking about triathlons. There's the Brierman out at Greenbrier SP. That's where I camped on Monday, nice place.
fitday.com
https://www.piranha-sports.com/Race31.aspx
#2210
#2212
Cough, cough! Mmmhmmm. 

Hey, let's get all of the BF-MD folks together and ride to Salisbury on Friday, then ride the Seagull (aka Assateague) Century on Saturday, then bike back on Sunday. That'll help boost mileages!


Hey, let's get all of the BF-MD folks together and ride to Salisbury on Friday, then ride the Seagull (aka Assateague) Century on Saturday, then bike back on Sunday. That'll help boost mileages!
#2213
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From: Baltimore,MD
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I wouldn't mind riding out there on Friday, just getting back that's a problem, dinner party in Bmore at 6 pm. Looks like I'm driving out Friday and either sleeping in my van or pitching a tent at Salvation Army.
#2214
hey folks
Biker Mike: sorry to hear about your crash. If you need doc advise let me know. I know a few shoulder doctors and therapists.
GB My house is good for start, finish for certain. I am almost back to full inventory. By Columbus day I should have 4 on tap. I couldn't load your link, will try again later.
Barry/GB: I have a crazy wknd but am going to volunteer and try to make tonight's meeting. I actually drove to work today (ugh!!) so I can attend. I also have some old bike stuff to drop off at velocipede. I want to work the event as early as possible. I have to drive my daughter to school on Sunday, mid-afternoon.
Mileage YTD...If you're a slacker barry then what am i?? I think I am nearing 4K, doubt that that 5K will happen in 08.
Weight watchers: I find that lower body workout is crucial but you should also do upper body workouts for total fitness and weight loss. I don't lift weights as I have trouble doing exercise for fitness. I climb. If you are interested in climbing drop me a PM. I have extra gear and can teach you the basics.
Barry: will you be there tonight?, GB what do you look like?? Today is the last of "concert in the park", just can't fit it into the schedule. Too much going in B-more these days....this is a good thing. Charlie
Biker Mike: sorry to hear about your crash. If you need doc advise let me know. I know a few shoulder doctors and therapists.
GB My house is good for start, finish for certain. I am almost back to full inventory. By Columbus day I should have 4 on tap. I couldn't load your link, will try again later.
Barry/GB: I have a crazy wknd but am going to volunteer and try to make tonight's meeting. I actually drove to work today (ugh!!) so I can attend. I also have some old bike stuff to drop off at velocipede. I want to work the event as early as possible. I have to drive my daughter to school on Sunday, mid-afternoon.
Mileage YTD...If you're a slacker barry then what am i?? I think I am nearing 4K, doubt that that 5K will happen in 08.
Weight watchers: I find that lower body workout is crucial but you should also do upper body workouts for total fitness and weight loss. I don't lift weights as I have trouble doing exercise for fitness. I climb. If you are interested in climbing drop me a PM. I have extra gear and can teach you the basics.
Barry: will you be there tonight?, GB what do you look like?? Today is the last of "concert in the park", just can't fit it into the schedule. Too much going in B-more these days....this is a good thing. Charlie
#2217
Charlie, great finally meeting you last night. I'll probably see you sometime sunday at TDP.
BTW here's another attempt at the Brewers Bike tour:
https://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/208698
When you get a chance, PM me your email address. -GB
BTW here's another attempt at the Brewers Bike tour:
https://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/208698
When you get a chance, PM me your email address. -GB
#2218
Charlie, great finally meeting you last night. I'll probably see you sometime sunday at TDP.
BTW here's another attempt at the Brewers Bike tour:
https://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/208698
When you get a chance, PM me your email address. -GB
BTW here's another attempt at the Brewers Bike tour:
https://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/208698
When you get a chance, PM me your email address. -GB
Charlie
PS I guess you made it home on the fixie. I went to velocipede after I left you. That place was mobbed. Lots and lots of people.
#2219
Hey everybody: There's a MD-bike meeting next Monday night.
Here's the info:
...... Just a short Reminder of the Bike Forum next Monday Oct. 6, 2008 6:00 to 9:00PM at the Johns Hopkins -APL in Laurel Md.
check the Web-Site www.cpabc.org for more info. The APL is off of Route #29 Exit 15. Johns Hopkins/Gorman Rds. head west about 1/2 mile, pass the 1st APL Entrance and take 2nd Entance straight into Building #1-Red Brick Building and we will be meeting in the Parsons Auditorium. Parking is on your left.
We are expecting a good turn-out and it should be a very informative and interesting evening to bring us all update on Bicycle Happenings in Maryland. We are having a planning meeting this Thursday 10-02-08 at 2:00PM at the APL if you are free and able and welcome to attend. Hope to see you all there.
Here's the info:
...... Just a short Reminder of the Bike Forum next Monday Oct. 6, 2008 6:00 to 9:00PM at the Johns Hopkins -APL in Laurel Md.
check the Web-Site www.cpabc.org for more info. The APL is off of Route #29 Exit 15. Johns Hopkins/Gorman Rds. head west about 1/2 mile, pass the 1st APL Entrance and take 2nd Entance straight into Building #1-Red Brick Building and we will be meeting in the Parsons Auditorium. Parking is on your left.
We are expecting a good turn-out and it should be a very informative and interesting evening to bring us all update on Bicycle Happenings in Maryland. We are having a planning meeting this Thursday 10-02-08 at 2:00PM at the APL if you are free and able and welcome to attend. Hope to see you all there.
#2220
Got another new bike
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From: dundalk, md
Bikes: pacific elite 3.1 w/upgrades and street slicks, got an iron horse maverick now, cannondale sr800, gt gtr pro rival
Tour de port people was the mayor wearing a pink shirt/jersey? if she was I think I saw her and about 10,000 other people on delvale rd in dundalk (I do my intervals on delvale, flattest straightest, carless road I know of near me)
I just wish it wasn't $60 the day of to join in the fun, I'd gladly pay $30, the wife told me I should have just has road with the crowd, after all every time I past the nice woman at german and delvale she kept telling me turn left (the direction of the tour) after the first couple times she knew I wasn't with them.
Other than the group of what looked like 500 cyclists running a stop sign (looked like critical mass) in front of me doing 28mph my sunday ride was 18 miles/1 hour worth of hill climbs and sprints.
How was your ride?
Also next sunday is my century a month ride, not sure where to but I'd get started about 630am again, like to cut across the city or so and head of toward frederick, maybe frederick rd all the way out?
All these people doing tour de port, theres got to be more than just me and no racer around here? derath?charlie?hc203?barry?
I just wish it wasn't $60 the day of to join in the fun, I'd gladly pay $30, the wife told me I should have just has road with the crowd, after all every time I past the nice woman at german and delvale she kept telling me turn left (the direction of the tour) after the first couple times she knew I wasn't with them.
Other than the group of what looked like 500 cyclists running a stop sign (looked like critical mass) in front of me doing 28mph my sunday ride was 18 miles/1 hour worth of hill climbs and sprints.
How was your ride?
Also next sunday is my century a month ride, not sure where to but I'd get started about 630am again, like to cut across the city or so and head of toward frederick, maybe frederick rd all the way out?
All these people doing tour de port, theres got to be more than just me and no racer around here? derath?charlie?hc203?barry?
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#2223
I'm that guy that I am.
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From: Maryland
#2224
Got another new bike
Joined: Nov 2007
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From: dundalk, md
Bikes: pacific elite 3.1 w/upgrades and street slicks, got an iron horse maverick now, cannondale sr800, gt gtr pro rival
speakig of major rides, the second monthly "FROM DUNDALK,MD TO SOMEWHERE 50 MILES AWAY AND BACK" is next sunday @ 630am, meets @ the golds gym parking lot on Merrit Blvd.
Unsupported, as many rest stops as you need, the wife in the SAG mobile is only 1 call away!
I forgotten to mention the cost is $0 ,and on the day of the event it is also $0.
Unsupported, as many rest stops as you need, the wife in the SAG mobile is only 1 call away!
I forgotten to mention the cost is $0 ,and on the day of the event it is also $0.
Last edited by joshandlauri; 10-05-08 at 04:07 PM.
#2225
Tour de port people was the mayor wearing a pink shirt/jersey? if she was I think I saw her and about 10,000 other people on delvale rd in dundalk (I do my intervals on delvale, flattest straightest, carless road I know of near me)
All these people doing tour de port, theres got to be more than just me and no racer around here? derath?charlie?hc203?barry?
All these people doing tour de port, theres got to be more than just me and no racer around here? derath?charlie?hc203?barry?

I also saw GB very early, 630AM!! Sorry I did not visit w/ you. I looked for you at the pzza line. I ate at least 1/2 pizza.
For those that rode, I was the route marshall at the R turn into North Point park. That was a tough turn, tight, onto dirt. It was really hard slowing down many of the cyclist. I was NOT the guy blowing the whistle. It really got sketchy when 20 people were coming out of the park and 20 going in, over that little strip of dirt(plus cars). Next year I'll bring bolt cutters. It was a great day, lots of riders, perfect weather, lots of pizza.
My day started at 6Am, rode to the Korean war memorial from home, got the assignment to ride to N. point park(15 miles away). Since I had to be there before 8, I couldn't eat bagels or drink anything, almost forgot my marshalling t shirt. A foggy-ish start which made for a eerie ride to the park. East side gets a lot more fog. The organizers did a great job pulling it off. All in all it was a wonderful day. Charlie





