How Would You Outfit This Frame With A $3000 Budget?
11-10-11, 12:03 PM
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Can you do Red Bull Rampage type freeriding on HT? And by "do", I mean "land", not "attempt suicide".
11-10-11, 12:31 PM
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Alright, you know what? Fine. I'll take a titanium hardtail. I'll take this one:
or this one:
Fox 831, Straitline pedals, and ODI Yetis on both. Odyssey Aitken Nightwolf on the bottom one. Not sure on what else...would have to think.
EDIT: What's the actual difference between a 4x and regular ol' burly hardtail? I don't actually know and I don't race 4x...all I know is that 4x bike looks like something I really want to take to the trails.
or this one:
Fox 831, Straitline pedals, and ODI Yetis on both. Odyssey Aitken Nightwolf on the bottom one. Not sure on what else...would have to think.
EDIT: What's the actual difference between a 4x and regular ol' burly hardtail? I don't actually know and I don't race 4x...all I know is that 4x bike looks like something I really want to take to the trails.
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11-10-11, 12:36 PM
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OK - - you gotten me to do a bit of reading on this, ed, and I still don't have a definitive answer; but I've reached some conclusions that I'll throw out so that someone with more direct knowledge can shoot them down:
Because DH frames need to allow for a large amount of travel within a limited amount of space, seat tubes often have to get interrupted, manipulated, moved around to accommodate that. A slacker seat tube angle will allow the longest post possible for the given space in a frame design. Also, because there is so much travel, in order to get saddle placement in the "right" spot in relation to the bars and BB, the rear wheel could contact a steeper seat tube before reaching full travel. Slackening the seat tube tucks ahead of the rear wheel's path. Thirdly, for those who have a tendency to ride downhill with their butts on the seat, the slacker angle will bias the rider's weight rearward when the seatpost is extended more - - where you'd need to be to avoid getting bucked if you're seated over larger hits.
Because DH frames need to allow for a large amount of travel within a limited amount of space, seat tubes often have to get interrupted, manipulated, moved around to accommodate that. A slacker seat tube angle will allow the longest post possible for the given space in a frame design. Also, because there is so much travel, in order to get saddle placement in the "right" spot in relation to the bars and BB, the rear wheel could contact a steeper seat tube before reaching full travel. Slackening the seat tube tucks ahead of the rear wheel's path. Thirdly, for those who have a tendency to ride downhill with their butts on the seat, the slacker angle will bias the rider's weight rearward when the seatpost is extended more - - where you'd need to be to avoid getting bucked if you're seated over larger hits.
Like the pic of the Ti DJ'er in Zephanie's post above this one. What's the point of having the saddle cocked backward on a DJ'er? That one has plenty of room below the nose and tail of the saddle to run it level. If I miss a pedal on the landing...I don't want my A-Hole landing on the nose of a saddle. It's prob. for aesthetics in that case.
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11-10-11, 01:04 PM
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Ed- easier to stick the nose of the saddle up yer butt when doing the steep climbs.
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11-10-11, 01:06 PM
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Going by the strictest definition of versatile, you can do anything on a DH bike that you can do on a HT. Maybe much slower, & much more difficultly, but you can physically do it without causing harm to yourself.
Can you do Red Bull Rampage type freeriding on HT? And by "do", I mean "land", not "attempt suicide".
Can you do Red Bull Rampage type freeriding on HT? And by "do", I mean "land", not "attempt suicide".
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11-10-11, 01:14 PM
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Simply put XTR on it call it good
Hey there MTN folks!
This is one of Lynskey's Top Notch Premier Titanium MTB frames. If you had a $3000 budget to outfit this frame, how would you do it? ...It's a 26'er!
What type fork would you use?...What type of brakes would you prefer?...What about your drive train, shifters, and the like?...Any special wheel set-up you'd select?...What about your tires?...
* The frame itself, is worth $2000...Choose any 100mm fork you like...You like air, coil, what? Certain name brand of fork you like?
$2,000 + 3,000 = $5,000
- Slim
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Let's see some MTB class and style...
This is one of Lynskey's Top Notch Premier Titanium MTB frames. If you had a $3000 budget to outfit this frame, how would you do it? ...It's a 26'er!
What type fork would you use?...What type of brakes would you prefer?...What about your drive train, shifters, and the like?...Any special wheel set-up you'd select?...What about your tires?...
* The frame itself, is worth $2000...Choose any 100mm fork you like...You like air, coil, what? Certain name brand of fork you like?
$2,000 + 3,000 = $5,000
- Slim
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Let's see some MTB class and style...
11-10-11, 01:50 PM
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Samburger says:
No. Going by the strictest definition, you'd have to eliminate the FS DH bike, because it has fewer applications than the hardtail. You don't just go riding up a tall mountain with a FS. You don't run errands on a FS. It's not so much that you can't. It's more like, it's energy intensive, less logical, and impractical. You wouldn't ordinarily commute on a FS, for the same reason. However, doing either of these things on a Hardtail is not only practical, but advisable, in most instances.
So you must think that BMX bikes have always existed. Huh? You must think that the free style design actually began at the first bicycle debut. Huh? You must think that the first free-style riding tricksters had some type of bike that was originally designed for that purpose. Huh?......WRONG!
Free-styling was first ever recorded as being observed on the old cruiser bikes. Next the Schwinn StingRay helped the sport develop even more so. Then comes BMX and MTN bikes. As time marched on, the bikes form and design began to fit the free-style function more and more. Hardtails were Downhilling and Free-riding long before FS ever existed. Cruiser bikes did it before hardtails. It's just that FS came along later as a better design for DH. That's all!
- Slim
Going by the strictest definition of versatile, you can do anything on a
DH bike that you can do on a HT. Maybe much slower, & much more difficultly,
but you can physically do it without causing harm to yourself.
DH bike that you can do on a HT. Maybe much slower, & much more difficultly,
but you can physically do it without causing harm to yourself.
Can you do Red Bull Rampage type freeriding on HT? And by "do", I mean "land",
not "attempt suicide".
not "attempt suicide".
Free-styling was first ever recorded as being observed on the old cruiser bikes. Next the Schwinn StingRay helped the sport develop even more so. Then comes BMX and MTN bikes. As time marched on, the bikes form and design began to fit the free-style function more and more. Hardtails were Downhilling and Free-riding long before FS ever existed. Cruiser bikes did it before hardtails. It's just that FS came along later as a better design for DH. That's all!
- Slim
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11-10-11, 06:21 PM
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And valid point, I didn't consider the possibility of gravity literally preventing something from being humanly possible. But even so, that's one thing a DH bike can't technically do, & the argument isn't even between DH bikes & road bikes, it's between FS & HT. I think a 5000ft climb could be done on a Ti FS with lockout.
Samburger says:
Going by the strictest definition...logical, and impractical...ordinarily...advisable, in most instances.
The green words are the ones that don't belong
Going by the strictest definition of any word, you're going to encounter a lot of technicalities. Technically, you can commute on a DH bike. Technically, you can have a fabricator fab up some panniers for a DH bike.
So you must think that BMX bikes have always existed. Huh? You must think that the free style design actually began at the first bicycle debut. Huh? You must think that the first free-style riding tricksters had some type of bike that was originally designed for that purpose. Huh?......WRONG!
Freeride, not freestyle. BMX has nothing to do with Red Bull Rampage. At least Google a subject before you pretend to know anything about it
Going by the strictest definition...logical, and impractical...ordinarily...advisable, in most instances.
The green words are the ones that don't belong
Going by the strictest definition of any word, you're going to encounter a lot of technicalities. Technically, you can commute on a DH bike. Technically, you can have a fabricator fab up some panniers for a DH bike.So you must think that BMX bikes have always existed. Huh? You must think that the free style design actually began at the first bicycle debut. Huh? You must think that the first free-style riding tricksters had some type of bike that was originally designed for that purpose. Huh?......WRONG!
Freeride, not freestyle. BMX has nothing to do with Red Bull Rampage. At least Google a subject before you pretend to know anything about it
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11-10-11, 06:31 PM
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In saying that, are you not also just stating the obvious
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^^ Go do your homework or something.
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Come on bro, it's Thursday night! I'm not doing homework, I'm pregaming for the rave tonght
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11-11-11, 07:56 PM
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11-12-11, 01:28 AM
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This frame has been sitting at my parents house and I plan on collecting it when I visit for Turkey day.
My budget for the build? Hopefully not $3K, then again I don't keep track of my bike spending or I'd probably freak out if I knew the actual dollar amount. I've already picked up a sweet fork and will pick up the rest of the parts next spring. I've blown through my yearly bike budget a couple $$$ ago.
My budget for the build? Hopefully not $3K, then again I don't keep track of my bike spending or I'd probably freak out if I knew the actual dollar amount. I've already picked up a sweet fork and will pick up the rest of the parts next spring. I've blown through my yearly bike budget a couple $$$ ago.
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^I wish my parents had things like that just 'sitting around'
