mprelaw

Nope. His blood values from those two Tours are probably the most solid evidence against him.

Garfield Cat

Ok, you attorneys out there. What type of asset protection planning do you imagine Lance had already in place? What pre planned deals might he make against all the civil actions against him from those who paid him money? Do marketing corporation shells shield him from any kind of civil action? Will irrevocable trusts shield him now?

Angio Graham

very strange. yet lots of riders have been busted after 2005 but for some reason lance and all those who testified all stopped after 2005.

i dont believe it

joshnc

Can we move on? Lance is banned for life. Hopefully he stays banned. Now lets all go for a ride today it is nice out.

Angio Graham

I dont want Lance banned for life. I think 6 months is fair. Thats what the other riders got.

Cat4Lifer

But he made Dave Zabriskie cry. Cry, man!
Lance deserves a year per Z-man tear.

canam73

Lance seemed very particular about what he did and didn't admit too. As I don't think he was honest in his admissions my guess is he has a strategic plan he is attempting involving acceptable risk of being sued vs. the possibility of a reduced ban. Things like doping in 09-10 and implication the UCI fell outside of that risk zone.

Note that I did not say this plan would bear the fruit he is hoping for.

Walter

Considering Lance's involvement with Trek dumping LeMond bikes and how that cost LeMond a large % of his income you can kinda understand LeMond being bitter and maybe taking a little pleasure in this.

Bitterness isn't real noble but it is understandable, especially when LeMond was right all along.

Stealthammer

+100

Greg deserves praise for his performances, and would be wise to maintain his past habit of not speaking out at all.

oldbobcat

And I agree. As a racer Greg was loved for his enthusiasm, candor, loquaciousness, and expressive riding style. Now that he's somewhat of a senior industry leader a little more circumspection would be admirable. His advocacy for clean cycling is coming across as much too personal.

Jseis 

LeMond is the real thing and he was screwed by Trek. That's why I posted this on Trek's FB site.

https://www.facebook.com/TrekBicycle...f&notif_t=like



Please forward and/or re-post.

oldbobcat

Per USADA's summary of the Reasoned Decision:
I ain't buyin' it, but for me it's time to move on.

TomM

Did he fail any tests during those years?

JoeMan

Please this lie is so calculated. He can admit to the earlier doping but not 2009 because of the statute of limitations.
He cheated and lied until 2006 then changed his behavior completely? No way Jose!

Athens80

Yes, he failed the biological passport.

Nick Bain

I was watching the Lance mania media storm last night on "access hollywood" I believe. They were really drumming up the drama aspect of the situation regarding the Andreus, I not fully aware of the of how Lance affected them but the Andreus seemed to come off as just really butt hurt.

bsektzer

https://www.richardsachs.com/site/201...-are-the-sport

Pretty well sums up the whole debacle, I think....

dfarinwi

I like that as well. No need to excuse anyone involved in the sad situation. No need to take it to heart. Just get on my own bicycle, and keep riding.

bigfred 

AC1074

Lance Armstrong admitted his doping scandal. He owned up to it. It's out there now. All the skeptics were right and all the believers are down. I think the reality is he needs a lot of help and counseling. I think he struggled through that interview and appeared arrogant at times. That could be his personality. Either way he has taken his first steps in the right direction. Many will sit here and judge him or cast him but how many will support his "rehab"? I am not one to cast the first stone so I hope he can gain back something.

Nick Bain

Seems like the classy thing to do is not get involved. and im sure the lance effect has made a few dollars indirectly for Lemond.

OrionKhan

A noble sentiment. But Lance isn't going to gain much if any support back until he comes completely clean. He's still protecting the likes of Ferrari and Bruyneel. Lance has "owned up to" some things. But he's still denying quite a bit. He didn't go public with this because he's sorry about what he did. He did it because he hopes to get the life time suspension lowered so he can compete again. He said as much during the interview. That really doesn't sound like a guy that has "owned up to it." Lance is still trying to manipulate the situation. But he's beaten now. He's not in control. The powers that be aren't going to let him get into the race unless he gives in and comes completely clean. And the dude just ain't wired like that.

OrionKhan

Fair enough. I'm with you on that.

Weeks

1qgbm

Stealthammer

Lance certainly was not the first cyclist to dope (although he may have perfected it), and he didn't do it in a vacuum where no one else knew what was going on. The UCI, many big $$$ cycling sponsers (yes Trek too), bigtime race team management (yes the USPS team too), and the bigtime race promoters (yes the TdF promoters too) knew what was going on for years, and they all turned a blind eye to it for personal or professional profit. So as this scandal unfolds, and light is shed on the problem, Lance can be a great aid in eliminating this corruption from our sport, and returning us to a honest, competitive sport environment much as what occurred in baseball years ago.

If Lance steps up and accepts responsibility for his part, and illuminates the parts of the others involved in this scandal, cycling will come out of this a better sport. But he needs also to apologize to all of those who did not dope during his reign, and who lost forever the opportunities that they would have had had he not cheated them out of them. If he does that, I still do not believe that he should ever be allowed to compete on a professional level again or as part of any team, but I see no reason that he should not be allowed to participate in the sport at a "non-placing" sportsman level as an individual.