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operator 05-24-07 06:13 PM

So is there going to be a safety meeting at 6 still?

jeremywhitehorn 05-24-07 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Fuzzz
you should be able to rip pretty hard on the lower don portion on yer new toy... having multiple bike options to switch it up rules!

i realized after i got home that i was riding the upper don (north of pottery road entrance); those are some technical runs! i think i'll try the lower part next time. are they flatter?

dcon 05-24-07 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by Shiznaz

I was blown away when I walked out of the office to front and bay. The entire intersection was a sea of people. It was like a documentary shot of some city in china or something. The roads were totally corked by a critical mass of drivers so I was lanesplitting and clipping every few cars with the fender strapped to my bag. OOPS! I also saw jeremy/darkmother tearing along bloor street going west so he is still alive and well.

This situation shows how when you get rid of the subway, the city basically shuts down, so if you improved subway service, the city would actually run properly.

I was at Yonge and Bay at 5...on my way to meet a friend at Union Station. That was an unbelievable crowd.

sweep242 05-24-07 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
i realized after i got home that i was riding the upper don (north of pottery road entrance); those are some technical runs! i think i'll try the lower part next time. are they flatter?

Touched lids holy!
All my years in Toronto I’ve never rode the MTB dirt trails there always on the single track/path!
I'll be back.

lymbzero 05-24-07 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by jet sanchEz
It was the same sort of thing during the big blackout of.....2004? Or was it 2005? I was cycling north on Bay and BOOM!, everyone left their office buildings all at once! It was nuts and I had no idea what was going on, people just kept coming and coming and coming, blocking the sidewalks and spilling over out onto the streets. Traffic was nuts and there were no traffic lights, so it was just as messed up as it could possibly be, thank god I was cycling, no one was getting anywhere. Much like how it was today, I guess. At least the cab drivers made some cashola.

I remember that day. It was my favorite of all summers.

I was riding through traffic, all the people in cars were bumper to bumper looking angry or frustrated. The people on the street were all hiking north, sweating up Yonge Street, staring at me, envious. Then one guy on a motor bike said, and I'll never forget this ...

"You're free as a bird!"

I love bikes!

lymbzero 05-24-07 07:42 PM

I'm here in Taichung, Taiwan.

There is this bike shope that carries has so many new and old Colango bikes, it's ridiculous!
It makes bike shops in Toronto look cheap.

They also have a couple of late 90's DeRosa's Cassini's and Merkx road bikes.. soooooo sex.
No track bikes thus far.. :(

The search continues.
I think I need to go to .JP .IT or .FR for real.

Panasonic?

Fuzzz 05-24-07 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
i realized after i got home that i was riding the upper don (north of pottery road entrance); those are some technical runs! i think i'll try the lower part next time. are they flatter?

oh yeah.. the lower part has some nice smooth single track that has some decent flow.

cavit8 05-24-07 08:41 PM

Hey Foo

How did the wheel work out?

duppy.conqueror 05-24-07 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
i realized after i got home that i was riding the upper don (north of pottery road entrance); those are some technical runs! i think i'll try the lower part next time. are they flatter?

ya lower don is easier...

operator 05-24-07 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by cavit8
Hey Foo

How did the wheel work out?

He at least got onto St. George alright... further than that.

cavit8 05-24-07 09:45 PM

Nice... I hadn't seen him post in a bit so I was hoping it didn't transport him to another dimension or something.

jeremywhitehorn 05-24-07 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by duppy.conqueror
ya lower don is easier...

how does one find his way to the lower don?

Ill Mitch 05-24-07 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
how does one find his way to the lower don?

Here is the northern entrance to the lower don by Taylor creek park, the parking lot to the south-west is where the northern exit of the upper don is.


And right about Here is the southern entrance to the lower don, to get here you can ride along the paved bike trail from Pottery until Beachwood Dr. which is just a gravel road and turn left, go along until you hit the train tracks and turn right over the wooden train track bridge and make another right and your on the trail.

Hope that helps.

Ill Mitch 05-25-07 12:26 AM

While I'm at it I'll map out a few of the other Don trails that I know of.

Lower Don Trail (aka, Speed trail)

Upper Don Trail (aka, Ridge trail)

I think some peeps call this Trail "Party Atmosphere", this one isn't super accurate because there are so many forks in the trail and I might have confused myself a bit. It's a good technical trail with a lot of switch-backs, the first part of the trail is a bit depressing because there are big piles of trash by the trail from the apartment complexes. :(

Here is a good warm up loop (Fruity Loops) in Taylor creek Park, not too technical and there are a couple of decent climbs.

Here's another short loop in Taylor creek park (Doctor Quads).

I've been on a bunch of other trails too but they're kind of hard to map out.

LordFoo 05-25-07 04:30 AM


Originally Posted by cavit8
Nice... I hadn't seen him post in a bit so I was hoping it didn't transport him to another dimension or something.

Haha.. that'd be some magic wheel! I had to dig around a bit for some more suitable spacers, as it was being a bit noisy, but ended up getting it pretty close. So far, so good.. it's just been a busy week for me.

shapelike 05-25-07 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by Ill Mitch
While I'm at it I'll map out a few of the other Don trails that I know of.

Lower Don Trail (aka, Speed trail)

Upper Don Trail (aka, Ridge trail)

I think some peeps call this Trail "Party Atmosphere", this one isn't super accurate because there are so many forks in the trail and I might have confused myself a bit. It's a good technical trail with a lot of switch-backs, the first part of the trail is a bit depressing because there are big piles of trash by the trail from the apartment complexes. :(

Here is a good warm up loop (Fruity Loops) in Taylor creek Park, not too technical and there are a couple of decent climbs.

Here's another short loop in Taylor creek park (Doctor Quads).

I've been on a bunch of other trails too but they're kind of hard to map out.

WOO! Mitch for the win! Thanks for mapping those out. I've been trying to figure out where best to venture into the Don w/ my cx bike, so that lower area looks perfect.

shapelike 05-25-07 06:52 AM

Wes, we need to sort out our beer-having. Call me at the shop - (416) 778-6473 - and let me know what works. Maybe this can take place at the safety meeting or pre/post CM.

somnambulant 05-25-07 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Offhoff
Story from the road for the day. Pounding up Yonge to do my last 2 drops on bloor and people start pouring onto the streets from the subway. From queen to Dundas it turned into pedestrian hell apparently the subway was having problems. So it was totally a meat pylon run up to bloor.

I was wondering what was going on.. When I drove through Yonge/Wellesley on my way to the bookstore/coffee/cavern there seemed to be WAY too many pedestrians. I thought it was just because it was so nice out. :P


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
i think i'll try the lower part next time. are they flatter?

Totally and completely different style. It's a really fast, totally flat twisty trail. In fact, we usually just call it "the flats". Be really careful of oncoming traffic because it's a total big-ring bomber.

Mike: I think that's about the only place in the that section you'd want to ride a cx bike. The ridge trail is likely too technical. At least for me it would be. :P


Originally Posted by Ill Mitch
I think some peeps call this Trail "Party Atmosphere"

P-A stands for Party Atmosphere? Wow that's lame. :P Then again, the guy who showed us that trail referred to the lead in to that and Catalyst as "Beaver Flats" and the top of the crazy climb on P-A as the "doobatorium", so I guess I shouldn't be surprised it stands for something like that. :P Thanks for the maps! I haven't checked out any of the trails in the Taylor Creek area yet.

somnambulant 05-25-07 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by shapelike
Wes, we need to sort out our beer-having. Call me at the shop - (416) 778-6473 - and let me know what works. Maybe this can take place at the safety meeting or pre/post CM.

Rock practice tonight (and every Friday) from 7:00 until around 9-ish. I'm up for getting together afterwards if it's not pouring rain.

operator 05-25-07 07:18 AM

Doesn't get any more lmao than this:

http://daily.stanford.edu/article/20...imposterCaught

Someone would actually sacrifice their time to pretend go to a university. The hahahhaah has not stopped reverbating throughout my house yet. Either that or the whole thing is a publicity stunt and story fabrication by stanford related personnel.

cavernmech 05-25-07 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by Ill Mitch
While I'm at it I'll map out a few of the other Don trails that I know of.

Lower Don Trail (aka, Speed trail)

Upper Don Trail (aka, Ridge trail)

I think some peeps call this Trail "Party Atmosphere", this one isn't super accurate because there are so many forks in the trail and I might have confused myself a bit. It's a good technical trail with a lot of switch-backs, the first part of the trail is a bit depressing because there are big piles of trash by the trail from the apartment complexes. :(

Here is a good warm up loop (Fruity Loops) in Taylor creek Park, not too technical and there are a couple of decent climbs.

Here's another short loop in Taylor creek park (Doctor Quads).

I've been on a bunch of other trails too but they're kind of hard to map out.

I have Teddies crazy maps of the East and West Don at the shop. These are as detailed as a map of the Don can be. Some are wall size, a few are fold-up pocket size. Now if I could only manage to go riding instead of being stuck in the shop every night till 9. SIGH!

iherald 05-25-07 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
so i ventured into the don to field test the new MTB and boy i had forgotten what a different experience mountain biking can be! i'm used to sort of zoning out and thinking of the big picture, taking my hands off the bars and stretching. nope, not on the trail. i was all alert all the time, grunting up hills, walking about 60% of them and eventually having a full head on colision with another cyclist (our helmets actually knocked together). i can't wait for more, but i think i'll lower the gearing a little bit becuase i was pushing a little too hard. or maybe i'm a weakling. now back to your regularly scheduled programme.

To me, km for km, mountain biking is way more fun. The problem is it's easier for me to roll out of my house on my road bike and get a good ride in. Mountain Biking takes way more effort!

cavernmech 05-25-07 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by iherald
To me, km for km, mountain biking is way more fun. The problem is it's easier for me to roll out of my house on my road bike and get a good ride in. Mountain Biking takes way more effort!

More effort?..perhaps. Less idiotic drivers? Yes. The biggest reason I enjoy Mtn over road is that you have no worries of getting run down by some inattentive car driver. Altho collisions in the Don are not unheard of as Jeremy can attest.

shapelike 05-25-07 08:00 AM

I can't remember - what time does CM normally head out at?

shapelike 05-25-07 08:22 AM

Takes about an hour to get through, but here are some really good talks featuring Greg Palast and RFK Jr.

There's a lot of information about what Karl Rove's been up to recently, details on the 2004/2008 elections and what republicans used to be (and of course stuff on the Iraq war). The bit at the end about corporations and their supposed philanthropic actions really nails an excellent point home.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...58769441262005


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