I think they were about $100 when I bought them, they might be cheaper now. I think I might have to buy another pair soon myself, as they're starting to wear after a few winters. :)

In fact, our high school was so 1337 we didn't even have a shop! We improvised and looked down upon college level kids. Our math teacher admitted in senior year that the emphasis was to stream the majority of kids directly into university level programs whether they needed it or not.

College? What the hell is that??? note sarcasm

I just recently purchased these puppies from Cycle Therapy. These are mad comfy and good for walking around. Adidas' cycling shoes lineup is killer this year! :)

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4...ushshoe2es.jpg


Cheers!

^^^^^Hey those look Badassed^^^^^^
I went to a meeting in my sister's kids' school before giving wireless access and apple laptops to all the kids as a pilot project. Sounds cool, what software is going to be installed, I ask. Oh MS Office and web stuff , maybe some stuff for aiding in homework. Can we install our own software? I'm thinking PhotoShop, Illustrator, Indesign, for creative stretching. Oh no I'm told, the hard drives will all be locked.

So what you want is the school system to pre-train the next generation of office workers? No answer. What about all the creative software that can show kids there is more to life then a spreadsheet and a powerpoint presentation? AGain no answer.

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=2120

diadora's. all black, look cool, and on sale.

sd

^ those look crazier than my look cleats sound!

That is such a can of worms.

On one hand, if course the hdds are locked. That's no mystery at all. After past cases of kids unlocking their locked hard drives and doing what they want w/ school laptops I'm surprised the school boards haven't knee-jerked kids back to an abacus or slide rule chained to the floor in every classroom. I like how it's news to these idiots that when you give a kid a computer (which odds are they can use better than you) and tell them there's something with it they can't do, they go right ahead and tear it apart as they see fit the minute you take your eyes off them. Supriiise su-****ing-prise. Anyway, I'm off on a tangent. My point is that it's no surprise the hhds are locked. That's an expected deer-in-headlights reaction from a school board facing intelligent children.

The software though, that's good conspiracy theory material. Let's assume there was a committee in charge of deciding what software would be on those machines. First question, was that committee full of idiots or people with an agenda? My guess is probably a little bit from Column A and a little bit from Column B. It's not like the school board actually paid for any of that software. MS gladly ate the cost and supplied it all for free, knowing full well they they were getting thousands of hours of free advertising for their biggest software suites with "future professionals" at their most vulnerable age. The Adobe Creative Suite and Macromedia Studio Suites are absent either because some people didn't want to include them, couldn't negotiate well enough to get them or were just too stupid to realize that kids want/deserve them (why does a kid "deserve" commercial software from some revoltingly-boated corporation? - because some of those programs are amazing artistic platforms ... the benefit to the kids' creativity outweighs the corporate evil). Next question, what's stopping the school board from changing the software on these machines for next year?

The cost of doing an evaluation for potential alternatives. Then the cost of evaluating the evaluation. Then finally concluding it'd be cheaper to keep the microsoft alternative. I don't want to turn this into a free beer software debate but, I doubt they ever considered that at all.

Well, anything in the commercial arts industry is Adobe/Macromedia until you start talking 3d (Edit: ... with the exception of Phase software, which owns the commercial photography industry). For a learning environment though, it would be pretty freaking cool to see your 8 year-old plugging away at some photo illustration project in the Gimp.

Gimp in school? Blasphemy!

When my daughter was 5 she worked in layers in Photoshop.
We also made a bouncing soap bubble in 3D Studio. :lol:
Of course MS was the sponsor of the software but not even their hamstrung attempts at creative wares were an option.
Office only, my niece and nephew love their machines but I can't get this bad taste outta my mouth over the whole thing.

Yea a whole shipload of Adobe/MM wares would have been pretty cool. How about showing the kids the unix layer of OS-X? :evil:

I think that's illegal around here.

shouldn't be, the gui is the only thing MAc about the MAc

nothing is illegal in Canada ( I learned that from the government):)

teach kids what cool things they can do with a knoppix live CD.

a what

Let's do a ride tonight or at least a coffee run

currently installing win XP pro on my mac at work here til 9. No ride for me til the sprint home.
I've got to get me new shoes soon I'm cutting my Pony's in half.

Commute successful. It was weird riding in Mississauga though. Multi-lane roads and tonnes of Mack trucks.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=90936

where you coming in from? that looks close to the in-laws

that is a long commute , good for you:beer:

32Flavours.... is that going to be a regular route for you?

The lab I work at is out at UTM, so I'll be doing this route 3 or more times a week all summer. Once I get more familiar with it, I might try to find some side roads to take so I don't have to huff Mack truck exhaust the entire time. Is anyone out there familiar with the route to U of T at Missisauga and can offer alternative ways to get there? This was just the most straightforward route I could plot without having done it before. The pedometer thingy I posted was actually made when I lived at Bloor and Palmerston (it's actually plotted backwards, from UTM back to downtown), but I've since moved 6 blocks away, so the start point isn't completely accurate. Reflections on the ride today:

1) Hell damn ass. Need padded gloves or cushier bar tape.
2) Hell damn ass. Need to adjust saddle.
3) Ooh, maybe I'll get pretty bike knickers like Robin and justify it with my commute.
4) My new UTW bag kicks major ass.

I've done a few commutes out to Bloor and Hurontario from Yonge and Eglinton. I've tried mapping out the most direct route (as close to as the crow flies) and found the constant turning to slow me down. Stop signs on side streets aren't always faster than the potential of having to stop at a traffic light on a major street. I ended up taking side streets to Keele and Eg. then Eg. all the way to Kipling and head south then go west on either Burnhamthorpe or Bloor til I hit Hurontario. When you go along those major routes the traffic lights are timed to keep traffic moving.

ok I am off to ride along the lake at 7 pm then up to KensingtonMarket again back east on Bloor to nice of a night to stay inside