Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer

Slayer.....wow dragging their asses from the muck once again?

Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn

i've done the Toronto Niagara Toronto "Hairshirt" ride for the last couple of years. i may have a route sheet somewhere, i'll try to dig it up. the route itself is pretty flat, especially if you take a route that follows the lake. the TNT route typically goes north past hamilton through to welland then on to niagara falls then through niagara on the lake, vineland, st catherines, port dalhousie and through stony creek into hamilton, cambridge and oakville on the way back to toronto. the routes that follow the lake are more direct, and often feature a breeze off the lake which is nice on a hot day, but generally have more traffic. routes through welland, etc are more rural, less traffic, but you don't get that nice view of the lake, wine country etc. and can get hot suring peak summer months. look at the TBN site for their write up on the TNT ride; they also do a niagara ride over two days that might have some information for you.

Originally Posted by cavernmech

Do I see a hotel with a heart shaped bed in yer future Mags?

Originally Posted by operator

Here's the route i took, BAH way to crash google maps API, you suck. Anyways it's basically like Jeremy said. Lakeshore rd all the way to Hamilton and a bit past it, then North service road all the way east until you hit St. Catharines. After that I have no idea as I stopped in teh hick town.

Road condition wise. Lakeshore is alright. North service road is also fine. Lakeshore gets narrow going from kipling to Hamilton, 2 lane road only so you may want to detour north or something, I wanted a direct route so no go with that.

Also the stretch of north service road can also be replaced by climbing the escarpment to the south and then doing some funky stuff with the roads in there - I didn't do that because I needed a direct route.

Also that 60km stretch to niagara falls once you turn east on south shore of Lake O. is the most boring piece of **** you'll ever see. Ride profile is that it's all flat, and you'll be eating wind either on the way to Hamilton or on the way to Niagara. Depending on which direction (T.O -> Hamilton = 90km, Hamilton -> Niagara = 50-70km), you'll suffer, or not.

North service road has a giant wall on the south edge but otherwise it's open, meaning wind in your facez0r.

Originally Posted by eyefloater

40-something ...

Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer

Then it's no pit at all, for fear of wrecking knees and backs and/or losing:
glasses
cell phones
pagers
blackberries
:lol:

Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer

Then it's no pit at all, for fear of wrecking knees and backs and/or losing:
glasses
cell phones
pagers
blackberries
:lol:

Originally Posted by operator

My bar setup is going to look like this soon: except the bullhorns aren't wing (I need 4 bolt quill stem do they have those?) And those exact levers, w00t.

http://www.velonews.com/images/report/7695.10450.f.jpg

H0tlink FTW.

Originally Posted by Shiznaz

My work has no showers or changerooms. I have just been changing in the basement next to where you lock up the bikes. Boy am I glad I didn't bike home in my brand new Sean John blazer! I'm freaking soaked! Its gonna really suck if its storming on the way to work because when I get there I just put on pants and a shirt over my undies and t-shirt. Spending all day in an office with soggy drawers ain't fun.

edit: Wes, je réponds à votre invitiation pour m'occuper de la clinique de piste sur le dixième juin.\\

also, we will see at the last minute if I'm up for the ride of silence.

Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer

Oh man I am sooooo lucky to be where I am in terms of facilities. I even park in the pass accessed basement parking with the executives. My bike is nice and dry too. I think all companies should make some form of showering available to bike commuters. Either that of the building itself should include facilities and charge a slice of the rent to maintain them. As it is I pay 20 bucks a month, for the gym access (27-7), the change and showers.

Shiz...many other riders at the building? How long before you're caught with one foot in as it were?
Operator......avoid it as long as possible. Unless it's for spending money, for bikes, toys, or road trips.
nnnn nnn nnnn nnnn 19 (vague musical reference)

Originally Posted by sr20det

ipods... new gen. MD's are coming out though! yay.
that calls for a trip to hong kong.

Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn

i think even if there was a shower here i probably wouldn't use it as it would just be a pain to bring toiletries to work. but then again, i'm smelling myself right now and i smell like a cab driver in a heat wave. i'm telling you, polyester jerseys stink! why didn't i wear my woolens?

Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn

i am so out of the loop. i'm hanging on to my film camera and CD walkman. what the h-e double hockey sticks is an MD?

Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn

i am so out of the loop. i'm hanging on to my film camera and CD walkman. what the h-e double hockey sticks is an MD?

Originally Posted by eyefloater

We should do a list of of top-ten albums each and go on a music exchange frenzy, or take over the "what are you listening to?" thread in the main forum. I actually enjoy getting peoples' opinions on new music (even though I'm just a tad belligerant sometimes).

Edit: maybe not top-ten albums, because that becomes too complicated ... just a list of some albums you've been listening to lately that are worth hearing.

Originally Posted by moeuf

It took googling 'Hairshirt ride' to figure out that you meant Toronto Bicycle Network. Doh. Unfortunately they don't seem to have any maps available on their site (or maybe I'm just missing them). At any rate, this inland route sounds good, though I wonder about road conditions out in the boondocks. Okay for me, but the hubby is picky. Can't believe I've managed to convince him to consider the ride at all. ("What? a 6 hour ride without a support vehicle?!?")



lmao. I'm almost cheesy enough to consider it, but not on my salary. Plus we've been married too long for that crap.



Hmm, good info there...looks like that won't be the route we'll take. I'd rather have hilly and less windy than windy and less hilly.

Thanks guys :)

Originally Posted by operator

AKA Admin. Who's doing the Toronto Niagara Toronto this year (hair**** n00bified)?

Originally Posted by operator

Oh. 200km brevet? Nuts! I was riding back last year and these guys were just flying, 40kph. They motioned for me to jump on the back and I did. Asked them a bit later what was happening and they said they were just finishing up a double metric.

o_0

Originally Posted by operator

Any comments on this

http://www.chucksbikes.com/store/big_fr074.jpg

58/60cm. AL red/blue.
40USD.

Originally Posted by somnambulant

jeremey: dah.. why the heck won't godspeed tour again?! I saw them a few years ago and I've been desperate to see them again ever since.