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Nice...
Originally Posted by Shiznaz
vroom vroom!


It makes my loins melt.
What's up with the spoke wires at the cross?
What does that do?
Dances With Cars
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how's the knee?
I think the wire wrapped around where the spokes cross makes the wheel stiffer.
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https://yarchive.net/bike/tying-and-soldering.html
Disclaimer: I am merely providing information not for or against. There was a rebuttal/clarification somewhere but I can't find it.
Disclaimer: I am merely providing information not for or against. There was a rebuttal/clarification somewhere but I can't find it.
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atta boy... neither confirm nor deny...you'll go far.
SAFETY NOW!!!
SAFETY NOW!!!
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Originally Posted by operator
https://yarchive.net/bike/tying-and-soldering.html
Disclaimer: I am merely providing information not for or against. There was a rebuttal/clarification somewhere but I can't find it.
Disclaimer: I am merely providing information not for or against. There was a rebuttal/clarification somewhere but I can't find it.

Oh yeah....D.t. makes both tying wire and solder for this purpose. Gerd Schraener, wheelbuilding guru, also advocates its use. Jobst Brandt, scientist, does not. I will take the advice of the guy who has built wheels for decades for many World Champions over the scientist any day.
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From what I have read it started with big wheelers and bone shakers, because if you broke a spoke it could fling around and cause crashes or injury. Tying and soldering keeps broken spokes in place.
And you sure can use spoke cards. You just have to tape them on! I prefer GI Joes to spoke cards anyways.
And you sure can use spoke cards. You just have to tape them on! I prefer GI Joes to spoke cards anyways.
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Originally Posted by cavernmech
Lots has been written on the topic of tying and soldering. I have been doing this to wheels for over 10 years. The practice itself goes much farther back. While not scientifically provable I have found tied wheels to feel stiffer. Also I have found it to greatly increase the life of a wheel. You are effectively making the outside spoke crossing the flange. The only downside is no spoke cards 
Oh yeah....D.t. makes both tying wire and solder for this purpose. Gerd Schraener, wheelbuilding guru, also advocates its use. Jobst Brandt, scientist, does not. I will take the advice of the guy who has built wheels for decades for many World Champions over the scientist any day.

Oh yeah....D.t. makes both tying wire and solder for this purpose. Gerd Schraener, wheelbuilding guru, also advocates its use. Jobst Brandt, scientist, does not. I will take the advice of the guy who has built wheels for decades for many World Champions over the scientist any day.
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I've never been a messenger, but I imagine this is pretty spot on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmWmTCx9-6I

That half link is crazy hot. And I really like how the tying and soldering looks as well. I'm surprised there's not more hard evidence of it being better. It makes sense that it would make the wheel stiffer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmWmTCx9-6I

That half link is crazy hot. And I really like how the tying and soldering looks as well. I'm surprised there's not more hard evidence of it being better. It makes sense that it would make the wheel stiffer.
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Originally Posted by DrBenway
I've never been a messenger, but I imagine this is pretty spot on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmWmTCx9-6I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmWmTCx9-6I
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Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer

*sarcastic*
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Originally Posted by DrBenway
I've never been a messenger, but I imagine this is pretty spot on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmWmTCx9-6I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmWmTCx9-6I

Worst. Crap. Ever.
Except for the hockey helmets and masks. That was just stupid. Actually everything was stupid. See point 1 again.
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Originally Posted by pyze-guy
Worst. Crap. Ever.
Except for the hockey helmets and masks. That was just stupid. Actually everything was stupid. See point 1 again.
Except for the hockey helmets and masks. That was just stupid. Actually everything was stupid. See point 1 again.
I watched that as well some familiar faces there, funny.
Cheers
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Originally Posted by pyze-guy
Worst. Crap. Ever.
Except for the hockey helmets and masks. That was just stupid. Actually everything was stupid. See point 1 again.
Except for the hockey helmets and masks. That was just stupid. Actually everything was stupid. See point 1 again.
Don't smoke, Mike.
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Any show I enjoy I just get on bittorrent. I find it really odd that most people don't do that. Whenever I go home for the holidays I'm astounded at how much **** most people have to wade through just to watch a show. Of course, I have no idea what new shows are on, but by the time I find out about the latest/greatest, I can just download the whole first season in one go and have at it.
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Originally Posted by sweep242
So how did you make out with the ipod? Fill us in when you get it rolling.
I watched that as well some familiar faces there, funny.
Cheers
I watched that as well some familiar faces there, funny.
Cheers
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I think that just exploded my secondary monitor.
Are you using rogers?
Originally Posted by shapelike
Any show I enjoy I just get on bittorrent.
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Originally Posted by shapelike
Any show I enjoy I just get on bittorrent. I find it really odd that most people don't do that. Whenever I go home for the holidays I'm astounded at how much **** most people have to wade through just to watch a show. Of course, I have no idea what new shows are on, but by the time I find out about the latest/greatest, I can just download the whole first season in one go and have at it.
But i must have a TV hooked to cable for TREEHOUSE & the hour.
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Originally Posted by sweep242
Bittorrent oh yes just from the mash thread in the main forum this week i got Red light go & Pedal.
But i must have a TV hooked to cable for TREEHOUSE & the hour.
But i must have a TV hooked to cable for TREEHOUSE & the hour.
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I hear that. I got rid of my tv over 2 years ago now and never looked back. Much to the chagrin of my bosses at the tv station.
Anyone goin' out for a spin today?
Anyone goin' out for a spin today?
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Originally Posted by pyze-guy
What, no Blues Clues?
Dam its cold!
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Originally Posted by pyze-guy
Worst. Crap. Ever.
Except for the hockey helmets and masks. That was just stupid. Actually everything was stupid. See point 1 again.
Except for the hockey helmets and masks. That was just stupid. Actually everything was stupid. See point 1 again.
be ready to giggle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSgKEpcwliQ
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