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somnambulant 03-17-06 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by wasted weasel
april 2nd right?...not this sunday...two weeks away

april 2nd last year was when the thread was started

word

sweep242 03-17-06 08:53 AM

To your mother, sounds good. Daylight saving time day to boot.
Cheers

jeremywhitehorn 03-17-06 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer
I'm a little worried about a big nasty reciprical saw having a go at my frame/seat post situation BUT it would make short work of the aluminum post jammed it there but I'm soooo worried about messin the inside of the frame.

what about getting a metal file in there? it wouldn't take long to get through an alloy post if you had a sharp, new file. provided it is long enough. just watch how far you file...

jeremywhitehorn 03-17-06 09:25 AM

is anyone still doing beer this afternoon? time? i'm on working stiff / bankers hours, so i'll be here till 5.

somnambulant 03-17-06 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
is anyone still doing beer this afternoon? time? i'm on working stiff / bankers hours, so i'll be here till 5.

I had to bail.. I forgot that I already made plans a couple weeks ago with a friend. Sorry to let you all down. :)

cavernmech 03-17-06 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer


I'm a little worried about a big nasty reciprical saw having a go at my frame/seat post situation BUT it would make short work of the aluminum post jammed it there but I'm soooo worried about messin the inside of the frame.

I have removed tons o posts. The prob I see with the foto you posted is there is very little post remaining above the top of the seat tube. This will be a hindrance as you need to be able to grab on to it once it is cut. As far as the recip saw...it will be o.k. to start your cuts. In my experience it will take a minimum of 2 cuts...perhaps as many as 4. If I were you I would start my cuts with the power saw and finish them up with a hand saw, I use a keyhole saw handle with a Sawzall Emergency rescue blade. This will save you many hours of sawing. If the post is alu and the frame is steel there is a noticable difference in the feel when you are cutting between the alu and the frame itself. Take yer time and DON'T put any WD..liquid wrench...penetrating oil down the tube until you are sure yer cuts are almost finished. It only makes a mess of the inside of the seat tube and is a pain in the a$$ to get the shavings out. Good luck.

cavernmech 03-17-06 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
what about getting a metal file in there? it wouldn't take long to get through an alloy post if you had a sharp, new file. provided it is long enough. just watch how far you file...

Man.. a saw takes hours of cutting. I have some hardened aircraft reamers and they take a long time to bore thru posts. A file works well if you are doing hard time in the pen. Otherwise stick to the saw method.

jeremywhitehorn 03-17-06 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by cavernmech
Man.. a saw takes hours of cutting. I have some hardened aircraft reamers and they take a long time to bore thru posts. A file works well if you are doing hard time in the pen. Otherwise stick to the saw method.

I guess i only recommend a file becuase that's what i have sitting in my tool box, in addition to my many prison friendly tools, like shiv made from a sharpened toothbrush handle. c block represent!

gokiburi 03-17-06 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
I guess i only recommend a file becuase that's what i have sitting in my tool box, in addition to my many prison friendly tools, like shiv made from a sharpened toothbrush handle. c block represent!

haahahaha SHIV.. and from good ol' wikipedia:

A related term is shank. While the words are used interchangeably, the difference is that a shank is a type of shiv that is fashioned from the metal shank of a prison-issued boot or shoe. Since inmates were able to fashion effective shivs out of metal shanks, most (if not all) prisons no longer issue footwear with metal shanks. Shank is sometimes also used as a verb, meaning "To stab someone, usually with a shiv, multiple times in a quick succession." Many people have been killed by attackers using shanks while serving time in prison.

Offhoff 03-17-06 11:14 AM

I still think the paper made crossbow type weapon they make on mythbusters is pretty amazing. And if you go to San Quentin definately go to the musuem and see the gun one inmate created. Pretty amazing stuff.

I remeber in Gibson's bridge trilogy all the bike couriers had switched paper-cored bikes. I always wanted to see how that would work, it certainly sounded good. So did the locks that unlocked using your wrist as ID.

somnambulant 03-17-06 11:17 AM

I prefer Neal Stephenson's ninja pizza delivery idea. ;)

eyefloater 03-17-06 11:22 AM

Somnambulant: also the world's greatest swordfighter.

- eyefloater (avec nuclear warhead in sidecar)

darkmother 03-17-06 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer
I'm a little worried about a big nasty reciprical saw having a go at my frame/seat post situation BUT it would make short work of the aluminum post jammed it there but I'm soooo worried about messin the inside of the frame.

Maybe too late for this depending on how much post you have cut off already, but the last time I had a stuck seatpost that I couldn't get out, I put a monster pipe wrench on it, and twisted that sucker until it broke loose. Might be worth a shot.

TRaffic Jammer 03-17-06 03:33 PM

Nothing to grab onto, it's busted off in the tube.
An adventure no doubt but there will be much rejoicing when this baby comes out.

Keith, nice to meet cha and thanks for the cable guides.

Word to Hero Protagonist.

Offhoff 03-17-06 04:15 PM

Got my frame back from the powder coaters and it looks awesome, if anyone wants to take a gander I took some shots before I trucked it over to the air brushers.

http://flickr.com/photos/20635292@N00/113871659/

http://flickr.com/photos/20635292@N0...n/photostream/

http://flickr.com/photos/20635292@N0...n/photostream/

cavit8 03-17-06 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer
Nothing to grab onto, it's busted off in the tube.
An adventure no doubt but there will be much rejoicing when this baby comes out.

Keith, nice to meet cha and thanks for the cable guides.

Word to Hero Protagonist.

I've wondered in the past if a climbing cam would help get that sort of thing out, or if you could jury rig one with a couple of large nuts.

jet sanchEz 03-17-06 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Offhoff
Got my frame back from the powder coaters and it looks awesome, if anyone wants to take a gander I took some shots before I trucked it over to the air brushers.

http://flickr.com/photos/20635292@N00/113871659/

http://flickr.com/photos/20635292@N0...n/photostream/

http://flickr.com/photos/20635292@N0...n/photostream/

Looks nice, which powder-coating company did you go to? Spectrum or that other one, the one that begins with "B"? Don't forget to wax the frame.

TRaffic Jammer 03-17-06 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by cavit8
I've wondered in the past if a climbing cam would help get that sort of thing out, or if you could jury rig one with a couple of large nuts.

neat idea but it would have to have pretty tight tolerances, as it is the post isn't even on a consistant level inside. I could see it burrowing a nice hole in my forehead when it comes out after I'm done reefing on it .... bang bang bang pop thunk ow thump :p Either that or I'd punch myself in the eye.

eyefloater 03-17-06 07:36 PM

If I remember correctly, it was the "one that begins with 'B'" ... by the way, did they strip it for you or did you have to take care of that beforehand? Also, where's this place located? The girlfriend's feeling just about completely healed up from her surgery now so I'd like to get my surpise present on and get her bike painted.

- eyefloater

somnambulant 03-17-06 08:49 PM

It's in the flickr comments dinguses (dingii?):
http://flickr.com/photos/20635292@N0...n/photostream/

ps. I just realized that it's about the dropouts, not necessarily about the powder coating.
pps. I'm impressed that serveral people have made Snow Crash references. :)

eyefloater 03-17-06 09:16 PM

I've got a bit of a thing for Stephenson books. So far I've read:

- The Big U
- Zodiac
- Snow Crash
- Interface
- The Diamond Age
- The Cobweb
- Cryptonomicon
- Quicksilver
- The Confusion
- The System of the World

- In the Beginning ... was the Command Line.

Him and the late Dougie Adams are two of my favourites.

Offhoff 03-17-06 11:43 PM

It was beyer-bush, aka blast and coat.
google map: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...d+coat+toronto

They're just south of Eglinton Ave off of Dixie. Cost 75 and they blasted and taped the frame for me. Ask for Maria she's the woman who runs the place. They have a board of color chips and turn-around time was only 3 or 4 business days. I'd definately use them again.

Stephenson rocks and all but no one has game like William Gibson, the man coined the word cyberspace.

eyefloater 03-18-06 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by Offhoff
Stephenson rocks and all but no one has game like William Gibson, the man coined the word cyberspace.

I thought about that one for a few minutes and ya ... there's really no way I can disagree with you on that call. ;) I'm more "enthusiastic" about Stephenson these days though because he's putting out new material at a steady pace, whereas Gibson's last book in 2003 - which was great - came out in 2003.

Okay, here's a call for you to make:

Gibson:
Virtual Light > Idoru > All Tomorrow's Parties

Stephenson:
Quicksilver > The Confusion > The System of the World

Which was the better series? Any single book comparison will eventually end up with Gibson slapping every other cyberpunk / sci-fi / whatever author around with Neuromancer until they cry, but this one might be up for grabs.

Enough book geeking out for me, gotta drag my punk ass to work in the morning!

- eyefloater

Edit: got my spell on.

eyefloater 03-18-06 08:01 AM

Re: Gibson vs. Stephenson ... (Neal goes into great detail about the actual fight he had w/ Gibson. It all sounds about right if you ask me).

http://interviews.slashdot.org/artic.../10/20/1518217

somnambulant 03-18-06 08:01 AM

I actually wasn't left that excited about the Baroque Cycle in the end, so surprisingly I'm going to have to go with Gibson I think. I generally prefer reading Stephenson though. Out of your list I haven't read The Big U, The Cob Web, or In The Beginning... Damn. I think I'm going to have to go book shopping today. :)

TRaffic Jammer 03-18-06 08:26 AM

All of his books are linked (gibson's), with the exception of The Difference Engine.
While Gibson is the God of the cyber punk I'm also an avid fan of the grandfathers... Asimov, Heinlein, even read a few Hubbards before Dyanetics...lol (wingnut). I love alot of the mid century scifi.

somnambulant 03-18-06 08:50 AM

recommend some old school sci fi to me.. I've been meaning to go back for a while.

Offhoff 03-18-06 09:21 AM

If your interested in some older school sci-fi I can't recommend Asimov's 2 collection of short stories enough. They were rereleased with Asimov's commentary on each story which are almost as interesting as the stories themselves. Starship Troopers is my favourite Heinlin, simply because its a diatribe on creating the perfect fighting force and he makes some great points. It was really too bad they destroyed it with that stupid movie.

And while note really older I love the sci-fi of Cory Doctorow and his books are mostly set in Kensington, its nice to read a good Toronto writer explore the city. Also Orson Scott Cards Ender Trilogy and his Ender's Shadow series as well. Some great philosphy in those books.

TRaffic Jammer 03-18-06 10:13 AM

^^+1^^ to the Ender stuff.

http://www.nitrosyncretic.com/rah/rahpubs.html

I read alot of the short story collection stuff. Past through tomorrow and those books.
Stranger in a Strange Land
Job:
I Will Fear no evil
Time enough for love
The CAt who walks Through walls.

Asimov
the Foundation and robot books are a must, but you can;t go wrong with anything he writes.
http://www.asimovonline.com/asimov_home_page.html


Clarke:


news - 10.14.05
United Nations joins the Foundation in commemorating the 60th anniversary of Sir Arthur’s renowned article on “Extra-Terrestrial Relays”

(Washington, D.C., Friday, October 14, 2005). The United Nations, through Mr. Shashi Tharoor, Under-Secretary-General for Communications and Public Information, has joined the Arthur C. Clarke Foundation in commemorating the 60th anniversary of Sir Arthur’s renowned article on “Extra-Terrestrial Relays.” Since its publication in 1945, Sir Arthur’s original idea has spawned a remarkable transformation of international communications and ways of life. Mr. Tharoor notes that “in no small measure, the vision of Arthur C. Clarke has contributed to a global revolution based on satellite communications. Through writing, inventions and vision, Arthur Clarke has expanded our understanding of what the world is, and our collective imagination what it can be.”

http://www.clarkefoundation.org/acc/bibliography.php
Reach for Tomorrow...damn so many ..Across the Sea of Stars

F Pohl, Piers Anthony, so many...lol

And never EVER forget Mr Adams for helping make the universe fit into a tea cup.

operator 03-18-06 11:22 AM

The first starship troopers was great, the second one was really, really bad.
No one likes phillip k. dick? I'm probably the only one that doesn't like the Enders series of books. Probably because I was forced to read it in high school.


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