Which groupset is the lightest?
04-21-05 | 10:50 AM
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No problem, you can actually compare weight/pricing at https://www.competitivecyclist.com/za...AGE=BUY_GRUPPO
04-21-05 | 11:00 AM
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Record with carbon or alloy cranks?
On longer rides, I figure I pee out more than 200g.
On longer rides, I figure I pee out more than 200g.
04-21-05 | 11:04 AM
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if you've got nothing to do, you can add up every individual component
https://weightweenies.starbike.com/
https://weightweenies.starbike.com/
04-21-05 | 11:40 AM
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actually... da is 40g lighter... and about $150 less expensive at comptitive cyclist
da: 2172g
record: 2214g
with carbon cranks, record is 2082g
da: 2172g
record: 2214g
with carbon cranks, record is 2082g
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04-21-05 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
if you've got nothing to do, you can add up every individual component
https://weightweenies.starbike.com/
https://weightweenies.starbike.com/
I guess that's me. I came up with record being lighter when they use the carbon cranks. Feel free to correct any discrepancies, I pieced this together in a hurry.
Record D-Ace
Component Weight Component Weight
FD 88 FD 83
Shifter 328 Shifter 420
Crank 580 Crank 738
RD 188 RD 181
Brakes 312 Brakes 309.5
cassette 156 cassette 173
BB 190 BB 0
Totals 1842g Totals 1904.5g
* Weight in grams
** D-ace has integrated BB
04-21-05 | 12:12 PM
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Well it looked neat when I pasted it from excel. Must have issues with cutting and pasting from excel.
Record 1842g
D-Ace 1904.5g
Record 1842g
D-Ace 1904.5g
04-21-05 | 12:21 PM
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When you take the time to actually fill out the Competitive Cyclist calculator with equivalent parts (ie the same front derailleur at 31.8)
it ends up like this
DA 2180g and $1574
Record 2185g and $1444
Why anyone would pay an extra $130 for DA is beyond me.
it ends up like this
DA 2180g and $1574
Record 2185g and $1444
Why anyone would pay an extra $130 for DA is beyond me.
04-21-05 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Trogon
When you take the time to actually fill out the Competitive Cyclist calculator with equivalent parts (ie the same front derailleur at 31.8)
it ends up like this
DA 2180g and $1574
Record 2185g and $1444
Why anyone would pay an extra $130 for DA is beyond me.
it ends up like this
DA 2180g and $1574
Record 2185g and $1444
Why anyone would pay an extra $130 for DA is beyond me.
04-21-05 | 02:32 PM
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Yes, and weight weenies is also populated by a lot of wishful thinking and inaccurate scales. I know, I'm a big contributor to that site, being a nutcase that measures everything. Not that I am suggesting that the MFGRs are accurate however.
Surprising to me is the fact that the numbers you posted are actually less than what the CC calculator has. I have never encountered a single item, Campy or Shimano, that weighed less than the MFGRs published weight.
Surprising to me is the fact that the numbers you posted are actually less than what the CC calculator has. I have never encountered a single item, Campy or Shimano, that weighed less than the MFGRs published weight.
04-21-05 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jitteringjr
specifically???
*it=DA
See mixed views, some are sayinf Da is lighter and more expensive, some are saying its lighter and cheaper. I dont know.
Originally Posted by DieselDan
Now for the hard part: figure out which is lighter with downtube shifters.
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04-21-05 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Trogon
Yes, and weight weenies is also populated by a lot of wishful thinking and inaccurate scales. I know, I'm a big contributor to that site, being a nutcase that measures everything. Not that I am suggesting that the MFGRs are accurate however.
Originally Posted by Trogon
Surprising to me is the fact that the numbers you posted are actually less than what the CC calculator has.
I just did it again (this time on CC.com) I got 2180 D-ace and 2046 Record. (I used the carbon crank though, which adds like $400, but it is Record stuff so it should be included right?)
04-21-05 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hi565
jitteringjr said it is lighter.
*it=DA
*it=DA
see my last.
04-21-05 | 02:57 PM
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Ah - so the chain was the diff.
I too looked at it with both the CF and alloy cranks, but apples to apples though, alloy both, and the diff is only 5g. Still boggles my mind that DA in that configuration costs more.
What's even more obscene is Chorus vs. Ultegra - $1069 vs $1019 and 2395g vs. 2576g. 200g for $50, not to mention the details of Chorus.
Never thought I see the day when Shimano got so proud as to compare Ultegra to Chorus.
I too looked at it with both the CF and alloy cranks, but apples to apples though, alloy both, and the diff is only 5g. Still boggles my mind that DA in that configuration costs more.
What's even more obscene is Chorus vs. Ultegra - $1069 vs $1019 and 2395g vs. 2576g. 200g for $50, not to mention the details of Chorus.
Never thought I see the day when Shimano got so proud as to compare Ultegra to Chorus.
04-21-05 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Trogon
Ah - so the chain was the diff.
I too looked at it with both the CF and alloy cranks, but apples to apples though, alloy both, and the diff is only 5g. Still boggles my mind that DA in that configuration costs more.
What's even more obscene is Chorus vs. Ultegra - $1069 vs $1019 and 2395g vs. 2576g. 200g for $50, not to mention the details of Chorus.
Never thought I see the day when Shimano got so proud as to compare Ultegra to Chorus.
I too looked at it with both the CF and alloy cranks, but apples to apples though, alloy both, and the diff is only 5g. Still boggles my mind that DA in that configuration costs more.
What's even more obscene is Chorus vs. Ultegra - $1069 vs $1019 and 2395g vs. 2576g. 200g for $50, not to mention the details of Chorus.
Never thought I see the day when Shimano got so proud as to compare Ultegra to Chorus.
Compare Centaur to Ultegra. Centaur is 30 grams lighter and ~$300 cheaper. Now that makes me feel even better about going with Centaur.
04-21-05 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gknep
Yeah but was that Centaur with the carbon crank?
04-21-05 | 04:47 PM
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More interesting is whose derailleurs,shifters, chain, cassette weigh less.
If you are a true weight weenie you won't be using factory cranks ,hubs, brake calipers . You'll be using aftermarket parts for those things.
If you are a true weight weenie you won't be using factory cranks ,hubs, brake calipers . You'll be using aftermarket parts for those things.