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View Poll Results: Do you have toe overlap on your road racer
Yes, frame size M or 54 cm and smaller
50.96%
Yes, frame size ML or 55 cm and larger
24.04%
No, frame size M or 54 cm and smaller
6.73%
No, frame size ML or 55 cm and larger
18.27%
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To(e) overlap or not to(e) overlap, that is the question.

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Old 07-03-15 | 03:46 AM
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So who turns with their foot sticking out at 3 o'clock?
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Old 07-03-15 | 04:42 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if the poll suffered from significant self-selection bias. I've only really had any interest in toe-overlap since I acquired a bike that had that characteristic a number of years ago. Prior to that I would have been unlikely to even open this thread, much less vote in the poll. But now that I have such a bike I'm more interested and did participate in the poll with a 'yes/60cm' vote although all of my previous bikes were in the 'no/>55cm' camp.
I wouldn't be surprised about self-selection bias either, but I also wouldn't be surprised that there is none. This is the data we have, so it is the data I will go with. If you have a better poll, by all means let's get on with it. As for opening the poll not attractive a broad audience of all kinds of folks, I was hoping the title would give us a leg up on that. And then there is me. Lots of folks on the 41 can't resist seeing what complete foolishness I am up to now. They know that I try not to disappoint.

I dunno. It was fun while it lasted. And isn't that what BF is all about?

Bottom line as far as I am concerned based on lots more experience than just this poll is that: Lots of folks have toe overlap. Lots of folks ride in big city traffic. Those two sets must have a major overlap. It can't matter all that much. And I do issue a challenge: prove me wrong!
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Old 07-03-15 | 10:35 AM
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I remembered this thread just before starting our ride today and checked to see if my toe hit and it doesn't. This is a 58cm Caad 8
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Old 07-03-15 | 05:58 PM
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So who turns with their foot sticking out at 3 o'clock?
If you need to pedal through a tight u-turn, or such, you can hit the tire with your toe.
At slow speeds, heavy overlap can be enough to slow you down and/or lock your steering, which can make you lose balance.
1 of my bikes has heavy overlap, so I am in the habit of doing half revolution push with inside foot, back pedal, half revolution inside foot again, in those rare situations.
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Old 07-03-15 | 06:05 PM
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Toe overlap is an issue for dwarfs. Sorry about that.

It's nice to be tall.

Women like tall guys.
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Old 07-03-15 | 08:21 PM
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Toe overlap is an issue for dwarfs. Sorry about that.

It's nice to be tall.

Women like tall guys.
The data says otherwise. Not about what women like. About who has overlap. More than 50% of riders of bikes of 55cm or larger. That is not exactly dwarfs. About what women like, well that is even now still open to conjecture. You see a lot of couples that don't exactly match your characterization. Women have a way of seeking out what really matters. I have to think how tall you are isn't any more of a draw than how tall your wallet is. And we haven't even gotten yet to other size issues if you know what I mean.
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Old 07-03-15 | 09:23 PM
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Ya.. I think I've already chimed in.. I'm 6'2" riding a 59cm merlin cyrene and I have toe overlap (though I do have size 14 feet).. I have a feeling that larger frames, mean taller people, mean bigger feet... maybe not a directly proportionate effect.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Still looking for votes!
...for what office are you running ? I live pretty far away from you there in Texas, so it would have to be something national.
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And I do issue a challenge: prove me wrong!
...about what? I have like 50 bikes, I could probably have just done your survey out in my garage. If someone is in my way when I'm riding one of the tight ones (all of which have some overlap), I yell at them to get out of my way. Problem solved.
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...about what? I have like 50 bikes, I could probably have just done your survey out in my garage. If someone is in my way when I'm riding one of the tight ones (all of which have some overlap), I yell at them to get out of my way. Problem solved.
I said, " prove me wrong if you can," not "prove me right!" We're of a like mind here. Yelling solves any toe overlap problems just like almost any other problem with cycling. Just yesterday I centered my brakes just by scaring them into the right place.
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Just yesterday I centered my brakes just by scaring them into the right place.
Dang, thanx for the tip!
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Toe overlap is an issue for dwarfs. Sorry about that.

It's nice to be tall.

Women like tall guys.
No, women like rich guys.
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Size 52 Domane, size 11 feet, no toverlap.
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56cm tarmac, EU 44.5 shoe, toe overlap.

55cm kilo tt, EU 44.5 shoe, toe overlap.
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4 road bikes 54cm and below, no overlap.


1 road bike 55cm, yes, overlap.


Size 42 feet, toe clips or clipless. Original fork; no frame or fork damage on the one with overlap.
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4 road bikes 54cm and below, no overlap.


1 road bike 55cm, yes, overlap.


Size 42 feet, toe clips or clipless. Original fork; no frame or fork damage on the one with overlap.
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Old 02-07-17 | 11:13 AM
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58 cm trek, 6'1, size 13.5 shoe, toe overlap, never even knew it was a thing until i saw this thread. doesn't seem to bother me at all
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I never realized this was a thing.

Guess I don't spend enough time on BF.

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Can we close this thread?

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61cm 2015 Venge Expert has the overlap.
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