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Heathpack 04-30-17 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 19549842)
We ate less back then.

Ah makes sense.

Y'all were hangry.

"I'm sorry for all the things I said when I was hungry."

rjones28 04-30-17 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 19549764)
Razor was this young kid who burst onto the scene from out of nowhere. He was quite a character. Truth be told, the kid had ADHD, and although he was on medication for many years it had little effect on his impulsiveness. He was basically a nice kid, and he had a fun-loving audience here and lots of attention here, so that generated a lot of posting. A LOT! Several people considered him a nuisance. He was definitely pushing folks' tolerance level during those times when he would post seemingly every random thought that came into his mind for hours on end. And for a person with ADHD that's a lot of thoughts and a lot of posts.

Anyway he would irritate a lot of people, couldn't help himself. He was banned several times because, you know, he had no filter. Finally one night he got into a posting duel with somebody wherein he made something like a thousand posts in one evening. That was the last straw, he was banned for good.

I don't know how all his posts got deleted. Since he was banned several times he had no reason to believe the final time was the last time. One isn't usually given the opportunity to straighten out their affairs when they're banned. :lol: My theory is that Tom had them deleted, for whatever reason.

Probably my fault. Oops.

LAJ 04-30-17 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 19549850)
So my scout did not go too well today. I pretty much knew what went wrong by the time I got home and went through it with coach later in the day. Long story, I won't bore you with the gory TT details.

Frustrated with myself. But of course now I want to head out there and scout the course again. But when?

Next Sat is my only chance at racing a 40k TT before the State Championship, so I hate to miss that one. The Sat after that is the last TT in the SoCal TT series, so I hate to miss that one too. Then the third Sat is the SoCal State TT.

Trying to strategize this, I revisited the points tally for the SoCal Series. Nemesis has 35 points, I have 30. The next woman behind us has 4 points.

So if I were to win and she did not make the podium, we'd be tied at 35 points. I couldn't find in the rules who would win if that happened, so I emailed the organizer. Turns out I'd win, because they'd give the series win to whoever has attended more races in the series. I've missed one and she has missed two.

Very unlikely it would unfold this way even if she flatted out, I probably wouldn't win (that course does not favor me). It is more likely that she wins and I don't make the podium.

But if there's a chance of winning the series, I have to show up, if only to make the point for next year that I am going to seriously try to chase her down.

So now its a Sophie's choice for me. An actual 40k race next Sat or more time on the SoCal Course? It's not that tricky of a course but there are some nuances that's it's good to wrap your head around fully. Don't want to be jacking things up on game day after all this work...

Nothing beats real racing, [MENTION=351576]Heathpack[/MENTION]. I know you train quite a bit differently than many, but the race brings out just that little bit extra.

rpenmanparker 04-30-17 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Scarbo (Post 19549684)
+1
Besides the skin is where most of the nutrients are.

I've heard such talk all my life about various vegetables like potatoes and now beets but never seen any substantive proof of the fact. And even if the concentration of nutrients were much higher in the skin, the relative weights of skin and flesh is heavily enough weighted to the flesh as to make the added value of the skin much less significant. Or so it would seem to me. But I admit to really wanting to know the truth. Any factual information to that effect?

I have checked the internet on potaotoes and found that in the case of most nutrients the skin does have a higher concentration than the flesh but provides only a fraction of them that the flesh does when both are eaten in the naturally occurring proportions. Riboflavin is an exception which the skin is especially rich in. Also some minerals like iron and calcium are so concentrated in the skin as to be mostly provided by that part of the tuber.

My conclusion is that palatable vegetable skins can boost the nutrient intake from eating such vegetables, but the advantage is not so significant as to suggest eating unpalatable vegetable skins. It just isn't necessary.

Allow me to say I know how you guys feel about this diatribe. I dare say my mother, aleha ha shalom, would agree with you.

gnome 04-30-17 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 19549866)
Probably my fault. Oops.

what part. Razor getting himself finally permabanned or his posts going poof?

gnome 04-30-17 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 19549875)
Nothing beats real racing, @Heathpack. I know you train quite a bit differently than many, but the race brings out just that little bit extra.

this. do the real race.

LAJ 04-30-17 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 19549855)
I'm intrigued.

A level teaspoon (to start) of the flakes. Let sit for 24 hours, and you'll see. You'll all see.

As you get close to the end of the jar, open a new one, and pop some pickles from the new jar into the old hot juice, add more flakes to the new jar, and it's sort of like perpetual motion. Of course, since you have a new jar started, you can kill the juice from the old jar. It's quite delicious.


https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/s...ew7-g&usqp=CAY

rjones28 04-30-17 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 19549799)
That's just it. That option wasn't available because, as my memory serves me, it was apparent she had made some plans. I recall there were a couple people who seemed genuinely angry at her behavior, which would be unreasonable if it was just an act of desperation. No, it was planned.

Perhaps our historian can dig up the event, which would be one of his greatest achievements.


(Thankfully google is no help.) :innocent:

The Internet turned on young [MENTION=200588]Velo Gator[/MENTION], after that event, the way only The Internet can. Smacked her down hard. Probably harder than a person would do to another person in real life for such an offense. I think the whole episode drove her away from cycling. It's a shame.

rpenmanparker 04-30-17 09:31 PM

BTW, in our house we all eat the whole baked potato, skin and all. I will risk sounding exactly like my mother when I say the skin is the best (tasting) part. Do any of you know TGI Friday's potato skin appetizer? Cheese, bacon, I think salsa. Oh man, that stuff is good.

rjones28 04-30-17 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 19549832)
You're no Razor.

Indeed

sbxx1985 04-30-17 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 19549764)
I don't know how all his posts got deleted. Since he was banned several times he had no reason to believe the final time was the last time. One isn't usually given the opportunity to straighten out their affairs when they're banned. :lol: My theory is that Tom had them deleted, for whatever reason.

At some point he was quarantined. I think that's when he started deleting the Addiction posts.

rjones28 04-30-17 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 19549850)
So my scout did not go too well today. I pretty much knew what went wrong by the time I got home and went through it with coach later in the day. Long story, I won't bore you with the gory TT details.

Frustrated with myself. But of course now I want to head out there and scout the course again. But when?

Next Sat is my only chance at racing a 40k TT before the State Championship, so I hate to miss that one. The Sat after that is the last TT in the SoCal TT series, so I hate to miss that one too. Then the third Sat is the SoCal State TT.

Trying to strategize this, I revisited the points tally for the SoCal Series. Nemesis has 35 points, I have 30. The next woman behind us has 4 points.

So if I were to win and she did not make the podium, we'd be tied at 35 points. I couldn't find in the rules who would win if that happened, so I emailed the organizer. Turns out I'd win, because they'd give the series win to whoever has attended more races in the series. I've missed one and she has missed two.

Very unlikely it would unfold this way even if she flatted out, I probably wouldn't win (that course does not favor me). It is more likely that she wins and I don't make the podium.

But if there's a chance of winning the series, I have to show up, if only to make the point for next year that I am going to seriously try to chase her down.

So now its a Sophie's choice for me. An actual 40k race next Sat or more time on the SoCal Course? It's not that tricky of a course but there are some nuances that's it's good to wrap your head around fully. Don't want to be jacking things up on game day after all this work...

I got nothin'.

rjones28 04-30-17 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 19549863)
Ah makes sense.

Y'all were hangry.

"I'm sorry for all the things I said when I was hungry."

Now look at us.

rjones28 04-30-17 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 19549876)
I've heard such talk all my life about various vegetables like potatoes and now beets but never seen any substantive proof of the fact. And even if the concentration of nutrients were much higher in the skin, the relative weights of skin and flesh is heavily enough weighted to the flesh as to make the added value of the skin much less significant. Or so it would seem to me. But I admit to really wanting to know the truth. Any factual information to that effect?

I have checked the internet on potaotoes and found that in the case of most nutrients the skin does have a higher concentration than the flesh but provides only a fraction of them that the flesh does when both are eaten in the naturally occurring proportions. Riboflavin is an exception which the skin is especially rich in. Also some minerals like iron and calcium are so concentrated in the skin as to be mostly provided by that part of the tuber.

My conclusion is that palatable vegetable skins can boost the nutrient intake from eating such vegetables, but the advantage is not so significant as to suggest eating unpalatable vegetable skins. It just isn't necessary.

Allow me to say I know how you guys feel about this diatribe. I dare say my mother, aleha ha shalom, would agree with you.

Cool story bro.

rjones28 04-30-17 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by gnome (Post 19549882)
what part. Razor getting himself finally permabanned or his posts going poof?

As a responsible adult, I should have set a better example.

rpenmanparker 04-30-17 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 19549914)
Cool story bro.

;)

rjones28 04-30-17 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 19549917)
As a responsible adult, I should have set a better example.

:roflmao2:

sbxx1985 04-30-17 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 19549799)
No, it was planned.

You think so? I think it became planned when she realized she was over her head and too far in to back out.

I didn't care for the cheating. Herbie and ST or we wouldn't have known.

sbxx1985 04-30-17 09:44 PM

Those tri geeks take their events seriously.

Heathpack 04-30-17 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 19549875)
Nothing beats real racing, [MENTION=351576]Heathpack[/MENTION]. I know you train quite a bit differently than many, but the race brings out just that little bit extra.

Yes I totally agree that the race brings out more and I would expect a better effort from it, racing always adds something. It could be a confidence boost, it would probably go better than the scout.

But the 40k TT is just two laps of the Piru 20kTT, which I've probably raced 15 times already. You always learn something in a TT but I don't have that much to gain by racing it, other than the performance boost that I'll get from an actual race. There's something to be said for that for sure.

The 40k race is not part of a series and there's about a 50% chance that I'd be the only woman racing that day anyway. When that happens, sometimes I just go out and lope around the course. Not quite as rewarding as actually trying to beat people.

The SoCal State TT on the other hand is my goal event of the year, things are going well and I have the chance to do very well in that race. So it really boils down to: does it make sense to skip a B race to improve your performance in your only A race?

As far as training differently, I have no idea what that means. I'm pretty sure I train like a new-to-racing time trialist. I probably race 75-80% of the available TTs in SoCal, so it's not like I am not already out there racing as much as I can.

sbxx1985 04-30-17 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 19549764)
Razor was this young kid who burst onto the scene from out of nowhere. He was quite a character. Truth be told, the kid had ADHD, and although he was on medication for many years it had little effect on his impulsiveness.

Didn't someone offer to take Razor in and help him with community college? ijen maybe.

Heathpack 04-30-17 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by sbxx1985 (Post 19549929)
Those tri geeks take their events seriously.

Well I think we all take our races seriously. It's kind of hard to do the work it takes to be competitive if you're not at least somewhat serious about it.

I can see Tri people getting bent over someone cutting the course in a Tri. TT people getting more bent over cheating in a TT. Crit guys over crit cheating and so on.

So Slowtwitch going all witch hunty seemed about right. I wasn't here then (or even cycling yet), so I have no idea what went down in Addiction or why. It just seemed a little out of character.

rjones28 04-30-17 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 19549896)
BTW, in our house we all eat the whole baked potato, skin and all. I will risk sounding exactly like my mother when I say the skin is the best (tasting) part. Do any of you know TGI Friday's potato skin appetizer? Cheese, bacon, I think salsa. Oh man, that stuff is good.

Why would anyone not eat the skin?

Heathpack 04-30-17 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 19549909)
Now look at us.

Like the dogs I looked at yesterday? Bossy and Fat?

Heathpack 04-30-17 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by sbxx1985 (Post 19549927)
Herbie and ST or we wouldn't have known.

Was Herbie on Slowtwitch then?


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