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Heathpack 05-22-17 08:50 AM

The thing I don't get is the need to label someone else a troll.

If they're a troll, they're trying to get maximal response. Don't feed the troll and it will wither and die. Just don't respond me and you'll take the wind out of their sails. Trying to out-argue them just feeds a troll and gives him what he wants.

indyfabz 05-22-17 08:53 AM

Work is giving me a new iPhone 7. I will soon enter the smart phone age.

rpenmanparker 05-22-17 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 19601490)
The question is how do you decide who is a troll? Think about it.

Realize that just because someone asks a beginner's question doesn't make them a troll. Does it?

Maybe they're not a troll, maybe you're just in a foul mood or having a bad day. Maybe it's you, not them.

And maybe, just maybe everybody doesn't think just like you do or view the world just like you do. Maybe it's you, not them.

Or maybe you've forgotten you were a naive noob yourself at one time before getting all knowledgeable and sophisticated and all here on the bike forums.

Just saying . . . people are too quick to call others a troll. It's just an easy way to insult or bully somebody, many times simply because somebody don't like somebody.

Maybe you can tell, that troll thing is one of my pet peeves. :crash:

:)

I do know it is a pet peeve of yours. That's why I was making a joke. I did omit the emoji but the bridge reference would be a hint. But really everybody knows who I am talking about, and by asking about the troll policy I was able to avoid calling him one. I was being coy. I'm surprised no one called me on it.

BillyD 05-22-17 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 19601302)
Another shocking thing is the censor. I'd like to have a sit down with him/her. The r word now. C'mon.

What you have to realize is that back in the day these forums were a wild, wild place. :lol:

The internet was young, and many people were being exposed to strangers in greater numbers and greater proximity than they had ever experienced before in their life. Also, they were not accustomed to someone else other than their spouses disagreeing with them. Human interactions at these levels were a novel experience for almost everybody.

As such, name-calling was rampant, and so as to have a civilized forum and to tame the rowdies and uncouth, terms that were frequently used as battering rams were put in the filter to be weeded out. Works like magic.

R.e.t.a.r.d.e.d is just one of those words that was abused by your predecessors. Don't blame us, blame them. And we've seen ample evidence that people still seek to use it today for the same purposes. So these words ain't coming out, pretty logical I think. :)

BillyD 05-22-17 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 19601536)
The thing I don't get is the need to label someone else a troll.

If they're a troll, they're trying to get maximal response. Don't feed the troll and it will wither and die. Just don't respond me and you'll take the wind out of their sails. Trying to out-argue them just feeds a troll and gives him what he wants.

Exactly.

But often times it's like a moth to a flame, they can't help but be attracted to the drama, next thing you know they're caught up in the frenzy, said the wrong thing, got a warning or an infraction, and wonder why they got disciplined and not "the troll". :lol:

You can't make this stuff up. :lol:

indyfabz 05-22-17 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by Heathpack (Post 19601536)
The thing I don't get is the need to label someone else a troll.

In other news...I haven't delved into it yet, but I thought I would bring it to your attention in case you are not aware of it:


https://www.nytimes.com/section/magazine


Love the alternative covers. Mine has the dog.


https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017...erJumbo-v3.jpg

rpenmanparker 05-22-17 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 19601558)
What you have to realize is that back in the day these forums were a wild, wild place. :lol:

The internet was young, and many people were being exposed to strangers in greater numbers and greater proximity than they had ever experienced before in their life. Also, they were not accustomed to someone else other than their spouses disagreeing with them. Human interactions at these levels were a novel experience for almost everybody.

As such, name-calling was rampant, and so as to have a civilized forum and to tame the rowdies and uncouth, terms that were frequently used as battering rams were put in the filter to be weeded out. Works like magic.

R.e.t.a.r.d.e.d is just one of those words that was abused by your predecessors. Don't blame us, blame them. And we've seen ample evidence that people still seek to use it today for the same purposes. So these words ain't coming out, pretty logical I think. :)

Understood and agreed. It is just a shame that the r words (the r word itself and r-ed) have so many powerful uses that are completely appropriate. I think so many people object to them being censored, because it is so damn hard, even in a language like English, to find a suitable substitute that conveys the exact meaning just as well. Too bad.

BillyD 05-22-17 09:06 AM

Gotta mow that spring lawn before the downpour starts.

datlas 05-22-17 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 19601490)
The question is how do you decide who is a troll? Think about it.

Realize that just because someone asks a beginner's question doesn't make them a troll. Does it?

Maybe they're not a troll, maybe you're just in a foul mood or having a bad day. Maybe it's you, not them.

And maybe, just maybe everybody doesn't think just like you do or view the world just like you do. Maybe it's you, not them.

Or maybe you've forgotten you were a naive noob yourself at one time before getting all knowledgeable and sophisticated and all here on the bike forums.

Just saying . . . people are too quick to call others a troll. It's just an easy way to insult or bully somebody, many times simply because somebody don't like somebody.

Maybe you can tell, that troll thing is one of my pet peeves. :crash:

:)

Or maybe they have more money than brains. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

datlas 05-22-17 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 19601558)
R.e.t.a.r.d.e.d is just one of those words

Kudos for circumventing the censor.

WhyFi 05-22-17 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19601621)
Kudos for circumventing the censor.

And reported! Amiright?

Jadesfire 05-22-17 09:20 AM

It rained almost the entire weekend down here. I just added rain barrels at key points around the house last week. 4 55 gallon drums filled to overflowing within an hour.

I did not get the grass cut before it started :(.

datlas 05-22-17 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 19601630)
And reported! Amiright?

Nah, I wouldn't narc on [MENTION=29415]BillyD[/MENTION]. He is one of the good guys.

topslop1 05-22-17 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 19601251)
I hope my cardiologist doesn't read BF because I'm supposed to limit my intake to four 6 oz. cups. Ahrythmia, palpitations and all that other stuff.

I was doing 4 espressos @ 200mg a day. I've cut it down to 2 espressos at 100mg - strategically centered now around 3-4pm so I can work with it for a 6:30 group ride later..

Stimulants need a battle plan.

Bah Humbug 05-22-17 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 19601163)
It's a two espresso kind of day.

Still just one cup of stronk coffee even though it was a chilly morning at the pool.

BillyD 05-22-17 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Jadesfire (Post 19601635)
I did not get the grass cut before it started :(.

I may not either. Mine won't start.

Any other day, especially when it's hot and humid, it'll start right up. But nooooooo, now that I'm in a hurry and it's a cool, cloudy day, perfect for mowing, now it won't start.

Now the engine is flooded and I have to wait some more.

And of course by the time it drains out it'll start raining. :crash: :mad:

Jadesfire 05-22-17 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 19601723)
I may not either. Mine won't start.

Any other day, especially when it's hot and humid, it'll start right up. But nooooooo, now that I'm in a hurry and it's a cool, cloudy day, perfect for mowing, now it won't start.

Now the engine is flooded and I have to wait some more.

And of course by the time it drains out it'll start raining. :crash: :mad:

Ha, so true. I've been letting the weed eater "rest" for the past two weeks because the engine flooded on the last nice weekend day we had. It should be ready to go back to work in a week or so :innocent:.

Velo Vol 05-22-17 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by gnome (Post 19600879)
We have a suprising amount.

The main things I know about New Zealand are that it has earthquakes and 7x as many sheep as people.

LesterOfPuppets 05-22-17 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 19601493)
I can only assume that you haven't perused "Carbon wheetset just because..." (or whatever the title is); the dude isn't yanking anyone's chain - he legit spends boat money (or boatloads of money, either works) on bike crap, and much of it never gets ridden.

Edit: to give you an idea of the absurdity of his collection, look at his spare tire supply.

Attachment 563722

You may not like the way he communicates, but he's as real as a heart attack.

He should really get a humidor for those. At least put them in the closet!

BillyD 05-22-17 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Jadesfire (Post 19601742)
Ha, so true. I've been letting the weed eater "rest" for the past two weeks because the engine flooded on the last nice weekend day we had. It should be ready to go back to work in a week or so :innocent:.

I still have a chance but it has to start RIGHT NOW.

Bah Humbug 05-22-17 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19601621)
Kudos for circumventing the censor.

Negative kudos for not knowing you can just throw an empty pair of italics (or whatever) tags inside the word to circumvent the censor.

BillyD 05-22-17 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 19601772)
I still have a chance but it has to start RIGHT NOW.

Son of a *****!!!!!! :crash: :mad: :crash:

BillyD 05-22-17 10:23 AM

Now it's stuck outside, too heavy to push up the ramp into the shed manually. :notamused:

Oh well, there's worse things in this world. :)

rpenmanparker 05-22-17 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Jadesfire (Post 19601635)
It rained almost the entire weekend down here. I just added rain barrels at key points around the house last week. 4 55 gallon drums filled to overflowing within an hour.

I did not get the grass cut before it started :(.

I assume you mean under downspouts or at the edge of the roof. I would hate to think you had that many inches of rain.

Jadesfire 05-22-17 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 19601811)
I assume you mean under downspouts or at the edge of the roof. I would hate to think you had that many inches of rain.


:p Correct, they are placed at several roof edges.


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