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#176
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Who else uses the component tracker in the bike section of your profile?
So you can remember, eg, how long it's been since you changed your chain, or how many miles you got on that last pair of tires?
I remember thinking that would be a really useful feature, and there it is! .. but I'm not dedicated enough to do it for every bike, every component.
So you can remember, eg, how long it's been since you changed your chain, or how many miles you got on that last pair of tires?
I remember thinking that would be a really useful feature, and there it is! .. but I'm not dedicated enough to do it for every bike, every component.
The feature could be better - once you retire something you can't restore it, like if you swap out tires for winter. But for basic functionality it's not bad.
#177
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From: Creede CO in summer & Okeechobee, FL or TX Gulf Coast in winter
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Looks like my Strava protest will continue - ride free and forget the premium. I dropped my premium almost two years ago in protest. Age discrimination that is what it is. They finally added more age groups but stopped at 75!!!! All that work over two years in the making and that's the best they can do.
#178
I was having a good day with my club. i was keeping up with the good riders who usually drop me. I was working pretty hard to hang on, but I was surprised how well I was doing. I got dropped pretty bad about three miles from the end, which depressed me. I was surprised the group went so hot at that point, which seemed random.Of course, I found out that was the only Strava Segment on the route. Dang! LOL
I can't wait until everything is a segment. No more taking it easy on non-segments and then pushing it to try for PRs and KOMs. It'll be just like old times - ride hard, or not, consistently.
#179
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I tried creating some segments the other day. Two of them worked fine shortly after creation, the third did not seem to register in my rides -- giving all sorts of excuses when I checked using Strava's built-in segment checking tool like not going the right way or something.
It then occurred to me that this may be because the segment ends inside my Privacy Zone, which I thought wouldn't affect me because I do not show my rides publicly (or whatever the name of that setting is called). So I tweaked my Privacy Zone size and location to shift it outside of the segment and viola! It recognized my rides again.
And also after a while, the KOM and some top spots were filled with obvious forgot-to-switch-Strava-off-and-drove-home entries.
It then occurred to me that this may be because the segment ends inside my Privacy Zone, which I thought wouldn't affect me because I do not show my rides publicly (or whatever the name of that setting is called). So I tweaked my Privacy Zone size and location to shift it outside of the segment and viola! It recognized my rides again.
And also after a while, the KOM and some top spots were filled with obvious forgot-to-switch-Strava-off-and-drove-home entries.
#180
You know what they need to do? They need to set up a REAL KOM metric. And by REAL, I mean royal. Someone who actually "rules" the segment, not whoever happened to get the fastest time somehow, by fluke or random opportunity.
Seems it would be pretty simple. Take the number of times each athlete has covered the segment over the past 12 months, say, and rank them in reverse order, i.e., the one who's ridden it the most is number 1, and all those who've ridden only once have the maximum number. Then average that score with the athlete's usual ranking, and whoever's average is closest to 1 is King. For even greater certainty about who rules a segment, they could calculate the ranking of every trip an athlete made and average those, then average that with the frequency ranking. If the calculations are too complicated to maintain on a continuous basis, it would still be pretty interesting to see on a periodic basis - at the end of each week or month maybe, if not the end of each day.
Seems it would be pretty simple. Take the number of times each athlete has covered the segment over the past 12 months, say, and rank them in reverse order, i.e., the one who's ridden it the most is number 1, and all those who've ridden only once have the maximum number. Then average that score with the athlete's usual ranking, and whoever's average is closest to 1 is King. For even greater certainty about who rules a segment, they could calculate the ranking of every trip an athlete made and average those, then average that with the frequency ranking. If the calculations are too complicated to maintain on a continuous basis, it would still be pretty interesting to see on a periodic basis - at the end of each week or month maybe, if not the end of each day.
#181
Unless you select a segment, or a few segments, to attack that day. No rule says you have to go for every segment on your route or none of them...
#182
Who else uses the component tracker in the bike section of your profile?
So you can remember, eg, how long it's been since you changed your chain, or how many miles you got on that last pair of tires?
I remember thinking that would be a really useful feature, and there it is! .. but I'm not dedicated enough to do it for every bike, every component.
So you can remember, eg, how long it's been since you changed your chain, or how many miles you got on that last pair of tires?
I remember thinking that would be a really useful feature, and there it is! .. but I'm not dedicated enough to do it for every bike, every component.
#183
You know what they need to do? They need to set up a REAL KOM metric. And by REAL, I mean royal. Someone who actually "rules" the segment, not whoever happened to get the fastest time somehow, by fluke or random opportunity.
Seems it would be pretty simple. Take the number of times each athlete has covered the segment over the past 12 months, say, and rank them in reverse order, i.e., the one who's ridden it the most is number 1, and all those who've ridden only once have the maximum number. Then average that score with the athlete's usual ranking, and whoever's average is closest to 1 is King. For even greater certainty about who rules a segment, they could calculate the ranking of every trip an athlete made and average those, then average that with the frequency ranking. If the calculations are too complicated to maintain on a continuous basis, it would still be pretty interesting to see on a periodic basis - at the end of each week or month maybe, if not the end of each day.
Seems it would be pretty simple. Take the number of times each athlete has covered the segment over the past 12 months, say, and rank them in reverse order, i.e., the one who's ridden it the most is number 1, and all those who've ridden only once have the maximum number. Then average that score with the athlete's usual ranking, and whoever's average is closest to 1 is King. For even greater certainty about who rules a segment, they could calculate the ranking of every trip an athlete made and average those, then average that with the frequency ranking. If the calculations are too complicated to maintain on a continuous basis, it would still be pretty interesting to see on a periodic basis - at the end of each week or month maybe, if not the end of each day.
#186
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For all the data they have they are not doing such a great job of data views.
This is standard database stuff.
Besides the more categories they should have (posted on this already - group, solo) at least have sorts on the stuff people have looked at since the first Olympics - mostest, fastest, most powerful, longest...
This is standard database stuff.
Besides the more categories they should have (posted on this already - group, solo) at least have sorts on the stuff people have looked at since the first Olympics - mostest, fastest, most powerful, longest...
#188
For all the data they have they are not doing such a great job of data views.
This is standard database stuff.
Besides the more categories they should have (posted on this already - group, solo) at least have sorts on the stuff people have looked at since the first Olympics - mostest, fastest, most powerful, longest...
This is standard database stuff.
Besides the more categories they should have (posted on this already - group, solo) at least have sorts on the stuff people have looked at since the first Olympics - mostest, fastest, most powerful, longest...
#189
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From: SoCal, USA!
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You know what they need to do? They need to set up a REAL KOM metric. And by REAL, I mean royal. Someone who actually "rules" the segment, not whoever happened to get the fastest time somehow, by fluke or random opportunity.
Seems it would be pretty simple. Take the number of times each athlete has covered the segment over the past 12 months, say, and rank them in reverse order, i.e., the one who's ridden it the most is number 1, and all those who've ridden only once have the maximum number. Then average that score with the athlete's usual ranking, and whoever's average is closest to 1 is King. For even greater certainty about who rules a segment, they could calculate the ranking of every trip an athlete made and average those, then average that with the frequency ranking. If the calculations are too complicated to maintain on a continuous basis, it would still be pretty interesting to see on a periodic basis - at the end of each week or month maybe, if not the end of each day.
Seems it would be pretty simple. Take the number of times each athlete has covered the segment over the past 12 months, say, and rank them in reverse order, i.e., the one who's ridden it the most is number 1, and all those who've ridden only once have the maximum number. Then average that score with the athlete's usual ranking, and whoever's average is closest to 1 is King. For even greater certainty about who rules a segment, they could calculate the ranking of every trip an athlete made and average those, then average that with the frequency ranking. If the calculations are too complicated to maintain on a continuous basis, it would still be pretty interesting to see on a periodic basis - at the end of each week or month maybe, if not the end of each day.
#190
I have commute segments I've done thousands of times. I should be the King by now.
#191
Thats "MISTER Poopypants"
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The whole KOM thing, IMO, is crapola. There was a 5km segment here on the Arakawa River in Tokyo that was 4 years old, and after having checked the weather patterns for all of the KOMs I was anywhere near capturing, I saw that everyone of them was done with pretty heavy winds.
Well, guess what? Typhoon Lan passed through early Monday morning, and my stupid a$$ went out soon afterwards to try and snag some.
My first 3 attempts were aborted for various safety reasons, but check out those wind speeds HAHAHAHA.
Well, guess what? Typhoon Lan passed through early Monday morning, and my stupid a$$ went out soon afterwards to try and snag some.
My first 3 attempts were aborted for various safety reasons, but check out those wind speeds HAHAHAHA.
Last edited by MauiKai; 10-29-17 at 03:41 AM.
#192
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From: Inland Northwest
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The whole KOM thing, IMO, is crapola. There was a 5km segment here on the Arakawa River in Tokyo that was 4 years old, and after having checked the weather patterns for all of the KOMs I was anywhere near I saw that everyone of them was done with pretty heavy winds.
Well, guess what? Typhoon Lan passed through early Monday morning, and my stupid a$$ went out soon afterwards to try and snag some.
My first 3 attempts were aborted for various safety reasons, but check out those wind speeds HAHAHAHA.
Well, guess what? Typhoon Lan passed through early Monday morning, and my stupid a$$ went out soon afterwards to try and snag some.
My first 3 attempts were aborted for various safety reasons, but check out those wind speeds HAHAHAHA.
Awesome, well done.
#194
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#195
Thats "MISTER Poopypants"
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From: Tokyo
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Thanks braddah. It was absolutely SMOKING out there, and coming back I was averaging about 12kph which took a toll on my legs hahaha.
Interestingly, we have another typhoon now but its a weak one that is dumping more water than producing wind for me to take some more.
I'm on to something now though
Interestingly, we have another typhoon now but its a weak one that is dumping more water than producing wind for me to take some more.
I'm on to something now though
#196
The whole KOM thing, IMO, is crapola. There was a 5km segment here on the Arakawa River in Tokyo that was 4 years old, and after having checked the weather patterns for all of the KOMs I was anywhere near capturing, I saw that everyone of them was done with pretty heavy winds.
Well, guess what? Typhoon Lan passed through early Monday morning, and my stupid a$$ went out soon afterwards to try and snag some.
My first 3 attempts were aborted for various safety reasons, but check out those wind speeds HAHAHAHA.
Well, guess what? Typhoon Lan passed through early Monday morning, and my stupid a$$ went out soon afterwards to try and snag some.
My first 3 attempts were aborted for various safety reasons, but check out those wind speeds HAHAHAHA.
#197
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From: Kota, Aichi, Japan
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Thanks braddah. It was absolutely SMOKING out there, and coming back I was averaging about 12kph which took a toll on my legs hahaha.
Interestingly, we have another typhoon now but its a weak one that is dumping more water than producing wind for me to take some more.
I'm on to something now though
Interestingly, we have another typhoon now but its a weak one that is dumping more water than producing wind for me to take some more.
I'm on to something now though
That said I'll most likely be braving the wind tomorrow to get to work. So many missed days with all the rain this month in Aichi.
#198
Thats "MISTER Poopypants"
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Be careful out there. I refrained from riding to work last Monday in that wind. I knew on the way to work would be hell going right into it across rice fields, and I was pretty worried about getting blown into the path of a car by a gust.
That said I'll most likely be braving the wind tomorrow to get to work. So many missed days with all the rain this month in Aichi.
That said I'll most likely be braving the wind tomorrow to get to work. So many missed days with all the rain this month in Aichi.
But jeezus it pushed me along nicely. If it weren't for flooding I think I would have collected a few KOMs along the 20km run to Tokyo Bay.
Last edited by MauiKai; 11-29-17 at 06:50 AM. Reason: Wind coming from the back left side is the 7pm position, not 5pm
#199
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I think the key word is 'some'. Any so-called KOM that can be taken by an average dude riding with a strong tailwind, or drafting a dumptruck, doesn't fit in that category. No one is KOMing the big mountains due to favorable winds or traffic.
I feel like I already typed this same exact post.
I feel like I already typed this same exact post.
#200
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