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#151
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#154
Me duelen las nalgas

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#157
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I suspect we'll soon get the Strava-equivalent with this new post feature. My pre-ride breakfast! Stopped at café mid-ride! Yummy post-recovery meal!
#158
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Phil gives too much credit to doping. I'm convinced lots of riders that beat him were not doping. I do not think he is so convinced. Right now, he's going after about everything. I'm also convinced there are a lot of pro's not posting what they can do, while others do.
I like his cookie marketing. I respect his marketing more than his riding actually.
#159
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Me duelen las nalgas

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#161
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Even on BF some would think a guy with a "clean" tattoo on this forum outweighs someone tested more than any other USA cyclist with a blood passport (Horner).
This segment was not the KOM when it was posted. It was only by the ride above it getting flagged it got the "permanent " KOM sticker. That is digital doping. It is not clear who meant to do that, it was a false record. It was later corrected by Strava, which they said (in support they would not do).
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#162
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His book is for those that buy it. His interviews with press are different. There was no excuse for his claims on Horner. That was low class.
Even on BF some would think a guy with a "clean" tattoo on this forum outweighs someone tested more than any other USA cyclist with a blood passport (Horner).
This segment was not the KOM when it was posted. It was only by the ride above it getting flagged it got the "permanent " KOM sticker. That is digital doping. It is not clear who meant to do that, it was a false record. It was later corrected by Strava, which they said (in support they would not do).
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Even on BF some would think a guy with a "clean" tattoo on this forum outweighs someone tested more than any other USA cyclist with a blood passport (Horner).
This segment was not the KOM when it was posted. It was only by the ride above it getting flagged it got the "permanent " KOM sticker. That is digital doping. It is not clear who meant to do that, it was a false record. It was later corrected by Strava, which they said (in support they would not do).
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#163
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Horner was tested by USADA some 129 times to Gaimon's 38. https://www.usada.org/testing/result...-test-history/ more than any other USA cyclist. Horner has a blood passport - you can see what that involves on the UCI site. Gaimon has a tattoo and pretty low WT rankings to show he was not doping. Horner is as clean as the system can certify, and he jumped through the hoops more than anyone else. He deserves that title as much as anyone. Any and every GT winner gets to be accused of doping. It is often true, but that is all the hard stuff I know on Horner. If Horner had Gaimon's performance nobody would be saying anything. If Gaimon had Horner's performance, well, that tattoo would not save him.
That Gaimon was a WT pro as Horner was does not mean he somehow knows something. Gaimon and Horner were not WT teammates and in different circles and times. They would be very unlikely to share information. Sure - win a GT and everyone knows someone who knows something. It was likely Russia.
Gaimon has not disclosed really much more than Horner's arrogance about why he thinks Horner got away with stuff. If Gaimon knows something - he should stop being a wimp and disclose it, otherwise just he should just talk about himself in interviews and not those he won't produce any evidence against.
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#164
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I don't think / know any rider is clean, and a tattoo, poor performance and books does not make them so. The British junior busted in 2015/16 (who raced my kid) had similar results to Gaimon and was always in the back.
Horner was tested by USADA some 129 times to Gaimon's 38. https://www.usada.org/testing/result...-test-history/ more than any other USA cyclist. He has a blood passport - you can see what that involves on the UCI site. Gaimon has a tattoo and pretty low WT rankings to show he was not doping. Horner is as clean as the system can certify, and he jumped through the hoops more than anyone else. He deserves that title as much as anyone. Any and every GT winner gets to be accused of doping. It is often true, but that is all the hard stuff I know on Horner.
That Gaimon was a WT pro as Horner was does not mean he somehow knows something. Gaimon and Horner were not WT teammates and in different circles and times. They would be very unlikely to share information. Sure - win a GT and everyone knows someone who knows something. It was likely Russia.
Gaimon has not disclosed really much more than Horner's arrogance about why he thinks Horner got away with stuff. If Gaimon knows something - he should stop being a wimp and disclose it, otherwise just he should just talk about himself in interviews and not those he won't produce any evidence against.
Horner was tested by USADA some 129 times to Gaimon's 38. https://www.usada.org/testing/result...-test-history/ more than any other USA cyclist. He has a blood passport - you can see what that involves on the UCI site. Gaimon has a tattoo and pretty low WT rankings to show he was not doping. Horner is as clean as the system can certify, and he jumped through the hoops more than anyone else. He deserves that title as much as anyone. Any and every GT winner gets to be accused of doping. It is often true, but that is all the hard stuff I know on Horner.
That Gaimon was a WT pro as Horner was does not mean he somehow knows something. Gaimon and Horner were not WT teammates and in different circles and times. They would be very unlikely to share information. Sure - win a GT and everyone knows someone who knows something. It was likely Russia.
Gaimon has not disclosed really much more than Horner's arrogance about why he thinks Horner got away with stuff. If Gaimon knows something - he should stop being a wimp and disclose it, otherwise just he should just talk about himself in interviews and not those he won't produce any evidence against.
I have no problems with Gaimon calling it like he sees it. He's not a court of law and he's not exactly alone in his opinions.
But in the interest of not derailing this thread further, I'll agree to disagree on Horner.
#165
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From: SoCal, USA!
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In more pertinent news, I noticed that in one of the more recent Strava updates, the one I regard as the most significant happened without fanfare in the background; that is, if you ride over a segment just once, you can get a PR on it. This was, up until just the last few weeks, not the case. I still have rides I need to go back and duplicate, because I would do 80 miles and log zero PRs, as it was new territory. I noticed the first PR with a 1X in it a couple of weeks ago. They can do whatever they like with the interface, just leave that part alone.
Unrelated, I just logged my 500th hour of riding for the year.
Unrelated, I just logged my 500th hour of riding for the year.
#166
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Bikes: Domane 5.9, Cannondale Super X, Dedaciai Nuerissimo.
If you wanna try something different, before your next group ride, strap 3 or so garmins to one bike and enjoy figuring out how there can be a difference.
#167
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...There is this guy in my neighborhood that rides the same 2 mile loop over and over each day fully kitted up...He is always scanning to see if there are any walkers/strollers/yardworkers for an audience. If he sees any, then he immediately ups his game and starts making noises /facial expressions to show he is at max effort. He must be a serious cyclist!...I was thinking about joining Strava just to see if he has his loop segmented with KOMs. If so, I would attempt to steal them at odd times in the day just to freak him out.
#170
I dislike the new direction - not merely format - for being so "dumbed down." I think if Fisher-Price had done the design it would be more sophisticated. I never needed to know that other folks joined random clubs, and I certainly don't need that and the challenges they participate in filling up my screen. Activity feed? More like a giant smear of information vomit. If I'm interested in their photos (which, usually, I'm not) I can click on them. Being able to see one, maybe two activities without scrolling - giant fonts, huge margins and tons of white space, and using barely more than 1/3 the width of the screen? Absurd.
#171
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I was having a good day with my club. i was keeping up with the good riders who usually drop me. I was working pretty hard to hang on, but I was surprised how well I was doing. I got dropped pretty bad about three miles from the end, which depressed me. I was surprised the group went so hot at that point, which seemed random.Of course, I found out that was the only Strava Segment on the route. Dang! LOL
#172
It's MY mountain

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Who else uses the component tracker in the bike section of your profile?
So you can remember, eg, how long it's been since you changed your chain, or how many miles you got on that last pair of tires?
I remember thinking that would be a really useful feature, and there it is! .. but I'm not dedicated enough to do it for every bike, every component.
So you can remember, eg, how long it's been since you changed your chain, or how many miles you got on that last pair of tires?
I remember thinking that would be a really useful feature, and there it is! .. but I'm not dedicated enough to do it for every bike, every component.
#173
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Who else uses the component tracker in the bike section of your profile?
So you can remember, eg, how long it's been since you changed your chain, or how many miles you got on that last pair of tires?
I remember thinking that would be a really useful feature, and there it is! .. but I'm not dedicated enough to do it for every bike, every component.
So you can remember, eg, how long it's been since you changed your chain, or how many miles you got on that last pair of tires?
I remember thinking that would be a really useful feature, and there it is! .. but I'm not dedicated enough to do it for every bike, every component.
I do - it helps you keep track of bits and pieces, particularly when you have multiple bikes.
cheers
#174
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In more pertinent news, I noticed that in one of the more recent Strava updates, the one I regard as the most significant happened without fanfare in the background; that is, if you ride over a segment just once, you can get a PR on it. This was, up until just the last few weeks, not the case. I still have rides I need to go back and duplicate, because I would do 80 miles and log zero PRs, as it was new territory. I noticed the first PR with a 1X in it a couple of weeks ago. They can do whatever they like with the interface, just leave that part alone.
Unrelated, I just logged my 500th hour of riding for the year.
Unrelated, I just logged my 500th hour of riding for the year.
#175
Who else uses the component tracker in the bike section of your profile?
So you can remember, eg, how long it's been since you changed your chain, or how many miles you got on that last pair of tires?
I remember thinking that would be a really useful feature, and there it is! .. but I'm not dedicated enough to do it for every bike, every component.
So you can remember, eg, how long it's been since you changed your chain, or how many miles you got on that last pair of tires?
I remember thinking that would be a really useful feature, and there it is! .. but I'm not dedicated enough to do it for every bike, every component.





