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Old 05-14-18, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
lunch with llamas
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I had some goat cheese yesterday.
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Originally Posted by RPK79
I had some goat cheese yesterday.
Got hooked on goat cheese and jamon while touring in Andalucia.
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Originally Posted by jtaylor996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SbUC-UaAxE

Edit: holy cow, the view count on that video is 981,292,955 views!!
Not one of them is mine.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
Not one of them is mine.
Well now it's 981,314,930, so which one of those 21,975 views since I posted it are you?
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Old 05-14-18, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RPK79
I had some goat cheese yesterday.
Recovery food?
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Kinda cool. People will prolly **** it up.

What about when the batteries are dead, though? Not having to dock them in a specific place when you're done is pretty convenient, but it makes me wonder about the max range and logistics of charging. I'd also be interested in seeing data about who's using them and why. Are they really offsetting automobile use or just capturing users that would have otherwise walked?
When we were down in Santa Monica, there were tons of them all over the place. I think they might work decently for cities like LA with some public transport but not enough to get you completely where you want to go.

Part of the Bird business model is that the scooters have GPS trackers. You can sign up to be a person who charges the scooters. Use your app to find the scooters, so pick up one or a few near your house, take em home, charge them for whatever your recompense is, then take them back out onto the street and set them free for someone else to pick up. I imagine the company that owns these things also pick some up and charge them at night and take them back to places like the train station.

But so far as I understand it, cities aren't wild about the scooters being left all over the place, people riding them on sidewalks, people not wearing helmets, etc. Some cities are trying to ban them or regulate them or just force the companies into better policies/encouraging a bit of etiquette from users.

My guess is in Santa Monica, they do cut down on car trips. There is a Metrolink Station in Santa Monica, so I imagine some percent of people who took the train and then grabbed an Uber would be happy to use a scooter instead. The weather's always good, they don't have far to go, my guess is that its cheaper and likely a bit more convenient. Not sure how well it would work other places, but I think some SoCal locales would work pretty well.
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Originally Posted by datlas
BTW most physicians don't like doctor tv shows. I imagine it's the same way with lawyers and police officers. We don't want to have anything resembling work on our leisure time, plus they dumb down the material for the masses and it may not be realistic anyway.
OMG they make people think that CPR works most of the time. As opposed to the reality: CPR doesn't work most of the time.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Llamas are mean.

Goats are nice.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Llamas are mean.
The llamas I had lunch with are pretty calm. They are used to seeing people. When I went over to their enclosure an old couple was petting them. They were somewhat leery of me. I think the bike and pointing a camera at them spooked them a bit.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Recovery food?
All food is recovery food.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
OMG they make people think that CPR works most of the time. As opposed to the reality: CPR doesn't work most of the time.
I remember when I was real little, my mom did CPR on a neighbor across the street who collapsed while mowing the lawn. It did not work that time.

What's the rate, though, maybe 10% at most?
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Llamas are mean.
Not to me.

Originally Posted by indyfabz
I think the bike and pointing a camera at them spooked them a bit.
Where are the pics?
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Llamas are mean.

Goats are nice.
What about bears??

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Originally Posted by jtaylor996
I remember when I was real little, my mom did CPR on a neighbor across the street who collapsed while mowing the lawn. It did not work that time.

What's the rate, though, maybe 10% at most?
It's rarely successful unless the person gets a defibrillation shock within a few minutes. I think the "meaningful recovery" rate is well under 10%.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
The llamas I had lunch with are pretty calm. They are used to seeing people. When I went over to their enclosure an old couple was petting them. They were somewhat leery of me. I think the bike and pointing a camera at them spooked them a bit.
The meanest animal I dealt with in vet school was a teenager llama named Gaby.

Horses kick backward and cows kick forward. But llamas kick in all directions. And then they spit on you.

I'm sure the ones who aren't kicking you coming and going + spitting are swell.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
When we were down in Santa Monica, there were tons of them all over the place. I think they might work decently for cities like LA with some public transport but not enough to get you completely where you want to go.

Part of the Bird business model is that the scooters have GPS trackers. You can sign up to be a person who charges the scooters. Use your app to find the scooters, so pick up one or a few near your house, take em home, charge them for whatever your recompense is, then take them back out onto the street and set them free for someone else to pick up. I imagine the company that owns these things also pick some up and charge them at night and take them back to places like the train station.

But so far as I understand it, cities aren't wild about the scooters being left all over the place, people riding them on sidewalks, people not wearing helmets, etc. Some cities are trying to ban them or regulate them or just force the companies into better policies/encouraging a bit of etiquette from users.

My guess is in Santa Monica, they do cut down on car trips. There is a Metrolink Station in Santa Monica, so I imagine some percent of people who took the train and then grabbed an Uber would be happy to use a scooter instead. The weather's always good, they don't have far to go, my guess is that its cheaper and likely a bit more convenient. Not sure how well it would work other places, but I think some SoCal locales would work pretty well.
I think that it's got a better chance of making inroads than the bike shares, TBH, as long as they can keep the scooter "littering" down and keep the users from piloting them like idiots.
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Originally Posted by datlas
It's rarely successful unless the person gets a defibrillation shock within a few minutes. I think the "meaningful recovery" rate is well under 10%.
For us, if they weren't sick to start with- usually a trauma case or a drug reaction- CPR is reasonably successful.

For me personally, I can sometimes successfully resuscitate a case if its actually started with a respiratory arrest from brain herniation.

But CPR as the end result of major systemic illness, or in really old patients, just doesn't work. The problem is from TV people think it does work. So clients don't have the most realistic understanding and they make us do things that we know are unlikely to make a difference in the long run.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Where are the pics?
I don't know what went wrong. I adjusted a pic to acceptable size and tried to upload but got a blue square with a ? inside. Maybe something was on the fritz his morning. Will try again this evening.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
Not one of them is mine.
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My thumb tendons started bothering me out of nowhere during lunch. I was confused until I remembered that yesterday, when I first set off on my ride, I got my front wheel stuck in a crack between concrete slabs in the parking ramp and tweaked that wrist when avoiding going down.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
They were somewhat leery of me. I think the bike and pointing a camera at them spooked them a bit.
Well since at least a part of your face was concealed behind the camera you would think they shouldn't be so spooked.
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Well since at least a part of your face was concealed behind the camera you would think they shouldn't be so spooked.
What a comedian. What's next? Your mom's so fat jokes?
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Originally Posted by RPK79
I had some goat cheese yesterday.
I had goat cheese at lunch today.
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