Hey Odin, how many kms do you do a week to do so well in the vets races?

nah, I found it unpleasant

Thanks Thylacine. Box would just be something from an LBS, I guess about 140x70x20cm.

Reason I'm asking about sending is because I'm in HK, my bike is in Sydney, and I'm getting really bored here on the weekends. Luggage would be the ideal way to transport it, but I'd have to wait till October.

Went to the LBS here yesterday. It's great- more shiney bikes than you can poke a stick at, but I must resist the massive dent that succumbing to temptation will make to my wallet. I've aleady got two bikes in two countries. Three in three would feel a bit wasteful.

No, it is a particular brand of Chateau de Cardboard and it is definitely a good thing that you have never heard of it. :D

Thanks for the explanation matagi. I'm proud to say I don't know my brands of cask!

On a bad week, 100-ish and on a good week, 150-200-ish.

And there is the further refinement referred to as Wheel of Goon, which involves attaching the cask, sans box, to a Hills Hoist and spinning it round. Whoever is closest when it stops, drinks.

Okay. Unfortunately that's about my monthly figures at the moment.

When I raced in D grade (non-vets) a couple of years ago there were guys doing 200-300+ kms a week & still in D grade. I think there needs to be a "social grade" where you turn up and race & thats your total riding for the week - and then you have a few beers.:D This sort of comp existed back in my hockey days!

Goon schmoon Buckfast tonic wine is what you want
In recent times, Buckfast has achieved a surprising level of popularity within working class (and bohemian) communities in certain parts of Scotland, Northern Ireland and Ireland.
Within the above areas, Buckfast is alleged to be the drink of choice for drinkers who are prone to committing anti-social behaviour when drunk, especially underage drinkers. Its high strength (15% alcohol by volume/14.8% in the Republic of Ireland) combined with its low price and sweetness mean that many find Buckfast to be the ideal means by which to become drunk as quickly and cheaply as possible.

In reality, Buckfast is only one of a number of brands consumed abusively, other common choices being alcopops, vodka and strong cider. However, Buckfast has become an icon within the ned youth culture and groups of Neds can frequently be seen drinking it out of the bottle at all times of day in parks and other public places. Aside from 'Buckie', other nicknames for the wine include 'commotion lotion', 'wreck-the-hoose juice' and 'Mrs Brown' [1]. Due its popularity amongst Glasgow's Punk community Buckfast has also gained the slogan "Made by monks, Drank by punks".
Ahhh memories...:rolleyes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckfast_Tonic_Wine

I think I was sort of average in D grade - some guys did 200-250, others were lucky to do 100.

Lucky to do 100 - that's me for sure. Just finishing was always the major goal! :)

FWIW, IMO...
My first year of road cycling, racing the CCCC crits I started placing in D grade straight away and moved up to C grade which didnt seem much faster, maybe just more consistent pace.
Weekly KM total was about 100KM including the crit. :o

Track season this year I had about 2 months of 200+KM weeks then started track training and follishly stopped riding the road bike (got the track bug!)
Started winning D, then C, then B grade races over about 6 weeks before body gave up.

Anyway, the point id, it deemed like it doesnt take much to get improvements to a level (still crap) but sustaining that with no real base when you stop training is the real trick.

e.g. Jock has a solid training plan and base, went from abusin me in D/C grade to racing hard in A grade and getting results pretty quick. Least it seemed that way to me, I wasnt the one in Akuna bay at some ungodly hour on the weekend!

e.g. Climbo has a base fitness from some other planet and turns up setting the A grade pace with little to no training.

oh yeah, and when it stops being fun.... get out on the MTB ;-)

Nothing wakes you up like an OTB moment!

Yeah, some sort of training plan would definitely be helpful.
C grade crits are like you said - not much faster but more consistent, the attacks are more intense but I can stay with them fairly comfortably.
C grade RR's on the other hand are quite a bit faster. The attacks just keep coming and we're usually racing in hilly areas. Much harder than D grade.
I bought a mag trainer recently and have to get some sort of workouts happening.
Being on holidays at the moment, I thought 'great, I'll get heaps of riding in'. Hasn't worked out that way though... there's always something going on. :rolleyes:

ah...the joys of being single and not having not no kids!! :p :D

A big week for me is 450km to 500km, a good week is 400km, a bad week is 250km, and anything under 150km I consider to be a week off. :)

Approach bar with $10 note. Ask for 1 roll of quarters, and two (or more) drinks of your choice. You will be given your drinks, plus your $10 in change. They assume you will gamble your change. Don't. Crack the roll of quarters into one of the plastic cups that they hand out for change. Take it to cashier and get your $10 note back. If you're in a quieter casino and make friends with the bartender, you can skip the $$ part, and just get your drinks. If they think you're gambling, they'll ply you with drinks all day and night.

$400 is probably the going rate, and not too bad. I paid $300 for just a frame. An alternative may be to send it by plane as unaccompanied freight. You may need to contact a freight forwarder though.

farken hell 531, you should be riding pro ! :rolleyes: :p

I wish I got up after lunch and started work at 8. I'd probably ride more too. :p

Man, I seriously got burnt out last year I have to confess. After I did the Melb 12hr enduro and a couple of other races it was no longer fun and now a big ride for me is going to Northcote to view a property and stopping by the milkbar on the way back to get milk :o

Maybe a nice new 953 frame with Chorus hanging off it will inject some fun?

:rolleyes: good if you can get it!

No dedication you blokes. :p

I got 3 ankle biters and still manage to get the miles in. I just get up earlier and get 1 to 3 hours of training in before work starts at 7:30am, and then do an hour or so on the way home.

So paul there's no excuses anymore. Change that nappy, play for 10mins, then give her a feed, a burp and then on yer bike. :p

Cant wait until thats the case, she is awake for about 8 hours after the feed... insomniac!
Anyway, I started training on the M@ at lunch and gonna commute 1 day so should make a difference and give me 250+ weeks not including weekends.

Oh and I bought (stupidly) overcoming on the weekend, not that impressed on first viewing, any other comments? I thought HOW was better, but did see that on the big screen!

3 hours training before work at 7:30 am !!! You are a nutter !

2 kids and 2 jobs. First job starts at 5:30am - finishes around 12, lunch at home then off to second job 'till about 5pm. Doesn't leave a lot :(

i do about 150 - 250 kays a week (estimated as as 30 kph average as i do mostly trainer milage during the week) depending on if i can be arsed getting up in the mornings and putting in that extra hour and a half before work..... unlike this morning where i was still feeling tired, couldnt get the HR up so went back to bed....

pshaw, Climbo, are you guys going to get off the soft water and come race at ourimbah on the 28th?

where abouts do you leave to ride the M2 pshaw? i work in north ryde, so if you want company one day i can probably help you out there....

not for me, baby #2 due on the 25th.