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Old 05-04-26 | 09:39 PM
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LDS thing?
More of an FLDS thang.
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The amount of times I find that switch left on……
No doubt right next to the turn signal stalk.
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I wonder if the jello represents a population without teeth? Does the FLDS provide dental?

I’ve heard meth works wonders on teeth.
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I read a very interesting book several years ago called "Under the Banner of Heaven" which is about origins of LDS church, but also has a decent amount written about FLDS.
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I asked google what's the deal with LDS/Utah and Jello. Here is the reply.

Key Reasons for the Cultural Association:
  • Cultural Staple: Lime Jell-O, often mixed with fruits and vegetables, became a staple at Church socials, family gatherings, and potlucks.
  • Effective Marketing: In the 1980s and 90s, Jell-O targeted families, which resonated with the family-focused culture of the Church, particularly in Utah.
  • Family Size and Economy: Jell-O is an economical and easy-to-make dessert, making it ideal for large families.
  • Food Storage Tradition: The LDS faith encourages having food storage; Jell-O is easy to store long-term.
  • Alternative Treat: Since faithful members of the LDS Church do not consume alcohol, coffee, or tea, sugary treats like Jell-O can be a popular indulgence.
  • State Recognition: In 2001, Utah named Jell-O its official state snack, solidifying the stereotype. [[url=https://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/why-mormons-love-jell-o-utah-state-snack]1, 2,
    , 4, 5, 6, 7, 8]
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I read a very interesting book several years ago called "Under the Banner of Heaven" which is about origins of LDS church, but also has a decent amount written about FLDS.
I've read that as well. I really dig his mountaineering literature. "Eiger Dreams" is a great collection of short stories that might be my favorite of his (that I've read)
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I've read that as well. I really dig his mountaineering literature. "Eiger Dreams" is a great collection of short stories that might be my favorite of his (that I've read)
Yeah Krakauer is a good author. Another good read of his is "Into the Wild." I must look into the short stories when I can get back to reading more. Life has been way too hectic.
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I must look into the short stories when I can get back to reading more. Life has been way too hectic.
Same. It's been essentially zero for me since Lily has been born, not including magazine or newspaper articles. I also have a copy of Steinbeck's "The Red Pony", which is another nice collection of short stories that is a great cultural and physical geographical history of the Salinas and (now termed) Silicon valleys. Maybe I should make a point of reading a story here and there. I've read them all before buts its been decades.
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Looks like I picked up Lily's latest respiratory thing. And, unfortunately, it features a cough. I subscribe to the "neck rule" with this kinda stuff so I am skipping my hard workout this morning and riding shorter zone2 instead. I'll train through a head cold but not if there is sore throat or cough.

This has happened far too many times this season!!! Preschool man, damn. Hurts the wallet and hurts the body too!
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Originally Posted by TMonk
Looks like I picked up Lily's latest respiratory thing. And, unfortunately, it features a cough. I subscribe to the "neck rule" with this kinda stuff so I am skipping my hard workout this morning and riding shorter zone2 instead. I'll train through a head cold but not if there is sore throat or cough.

This has happened far too many times this season!!! Preschool man, damn. Hurts the wallet and hurts the body too!
New(er) parents and teachers (and healthcare workers) get frequent URI's due to frequent exposure. It's typical and generally gets better after a few years. Time is on your side.
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I think it might be an LDS thing.
You mean LSD?
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You mean LSD?
Nope. LDS is the organization formerly known as the Mormon Church. Latter Day Saints. They rebranded a few years ago.
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Speaking of LSD, the psychedelic drugs are getting a new life as they seem to possibly have a role in treating depression and other mental health conditions. I think this is quite interesting but the "problem" is since we are talking about old medicines and/or naturally occurring compounds, there is not a potential big payoff for Pharma, and so funding good studies may be a challenge.
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Oof, my Tuesday night gas stop has gotten pricier.


Add a couple dollars to that for my area.
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I've read that as well. I really dig his mountaineering literature. "Eiger Dreams" is a great collection of short stories that might be my favorite of his (that I've read)
I read "Into Thin Air" by Krakauer. I think it was made into a movie but they changed it a lot.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I asked google what's the deal with LDS/Utah and Jello. Here is the reply.

Key Reasons for the Cultural Association:
  • Cultural Staple: Lime Jell-O, often mixed with fruits and vegetables, became a staple at Church socials, family gatherings, and potlucks.
  • Effective Marketing: In the 1980s and 90s, Jell-O targeted families, which resonated with the family-focused culture of the Church, particularly in Utah.
  • Family Size and Economy: Jell-O is an economical and easy-to-make dessert, making it ideal for large families.
  • Food Storage Tradition: The LDS faith encourages having food storage; Jell-O is easy to store long-term.
  • Alternative Treat: Since faithful members of the LDS Church do not consume alcohol, coffee, or tea, sugary treats like Jell-O can be a popular indulgence.
  • State Recognition: In 2001, Utah named Jell-O its official state snack, solidifying the stereotype. [[url=https://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/why-mormons-love-jell-o-utah-state-snack]
No coffee? Ah hale nah!!
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Maybe I should post this in the 50+ forum, but I am already considering the pros/cons of collecting Social Security. I am 61 so could start in less than one year.

There are all types of online calculators that help your make the "right" decision, but these simply calculate lifetime benefit based on your life expectancy. They do NOT adjust for two important factors:

1. Money is often more valuable when you are younger so you can travel, buy new bikes, eat at nice restaurants etc., whereas when you are older you may not be able to take advantage of these items (of course you can argue you need the money to pay for aides etc) but in general the utility of each dollar is greater when you are younger
2. There is a pretty good chance that SS benefits will be cut in 10 years when the fund goes insolvent. I don't think this will be eliminated but a 20% cut across the board COULD occur. It might be better to get the "sure thing" earlier than a reduced benefit later. Maybe.

Based on these items, I may consider collecting at 62 or 65 rather than waiting for "full retirement" at 67.
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Speaking of LSD, the psychedelic drugs are getting a new life as they seem to possibly have a role in treating depression and other mental health conditions. I think this is quite interesting but the "problem" is since we are talking about old medicines and/or naturally occurring compounds, there is not a potential big payoff for Pharma, and so funding good studies may be a challenge.
Two of my band mates are licensed psychotherapists in clinical and research psychology and social work. They have been involved in some psychedelic-mediated studies.

Regarding LSD specifically, most routes do utilize a natural fungal extract (ergotamine tartrate) but it is a reasonably involved organic synthesis with that starting point. So unlike other compounds that can be simply extracted, it could have some pharma interest.
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No coffee? Ah hale nah!!
So the prohibition is actually on "hot drinks" which most interpret as coffee/tea, but role of caffeinated sodas and/or iced tea/coffee is routinely debated. It comes down to the letter of the law versus the spirit of the law, and lots of followers will reach different conclusions.

No alcohol, either.
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Two of my band mates are licensed psychotherapists in clinical and research psychology and social work. They have been involved in some psychedelic-mediated studies.

Regarding LSD specifically, most routes do utilize a natural fungal extract (ergotamine tartrate) but it is a reasonably involved organic synthesis with that starting point. So unlike other compounds that can be simply extracted, it could have some pharma interest.
Understood, but getting a patent on one of these may be a challenge and may not be worth investing millions in randomized clinical trials, when you are competing with psilocybin or other similar compounds that may be quite inexpensive.

Same thing goes for cannabis, btw.
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Originally Posted by TMonk
Looks like I picked up Lily's latest respiratory thing. And, unfortunately, it features a cough. I subscribe to the "neck rule" with this kinda stuff so I am skipping my hard workout this morning and riding shorter zone2 instead. I'll train through a head cold but not if there is sore throat or cough.

This has happened far too many times this season!!! Preschool man, damn. Hurts the wallet and hurts the body too!
Ended up with an hour in Watopia at 147w AP, slightly below the bottom of my zone 2 . I considered joining the A bot and crushing for the final 5-10 minutes to push my AP up, but instead I meandered between work communications, bike forums, and various other methods of doomscrolling.
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So the prohibition is actually on "hot drinks" which most interpret as coffee/tea, but role of caffeinated sodas and/or iced tea/coffee is routinely debated.
What about a bottle of water that has been sitting in the car on a summer afternoon?
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Maybe I should post this in the 50+ forum, but I am already considering the pros/cons of collecting Social Security. I am 61 so could start in less than one year.

There are all types of online calculators that help your make the "right" decision, but these simply calculate lifetime benefit based on your life expectancy. They do NOT adjust for two important factors:

1. Money is often more valuable when you are younger so you can travel, buy new bikes, eat at nice restaurants etc., whereas when you are older you may not be able to take advantage of these items (of course you can argue you need the money to pay for aides etc) but in general the utility of each dollar is greater when you are younger
2. There is a pretty good chance that SS benefits will be cut in 10 years when the fund goes insolvent. I don't think this will be eliminated but a 20% cut across the board COULD occur. It might be better to get the "sure thing" earlier than a reduced benefit later. Maybe.

Based on these items, I may consider collecting at 62 or 65 rather than waiting for "full retirement" at 67.
I was grappling with the same question.

I called and the guy I spoke to asked me some questions, one of which was "do you have any kids who are still in school?" to which I answered Yes.

He told me that I'd get an additional $1200 per month until my son graduated from high school.

So I took it at 62.

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