Lecterman

What about JSharr? We need to get him out with us also.

twbradford

What is OAS, PACC?

I am a lone wolf at HHH First time but not my first century.
I avg 18mph+ over 100 mi.

I take it 6:10 is a 25mph group....

My problem is that I need to stop to reload on water and drink, every 20 miles....otherwise by mile 60 I am cramping in the legs...

My goal is 19mph and a sprint finish.

Doggus

PACC = Plano Althletic Cycling Club. More of a 'racers' club. Some are hard core racers.
OAS is a group of rides out of the Plano Bicycle Association (PBA) that are fast and furious...oh and long too. Cycling skills are required in these rides. No jittery joes.

The 6:10 group will regularly surge to 30+ and that's not on the downhill either. Downhill they'll run 32-40 depending on wind. That said, their average back at the barn is only 19.5 - 20.2 usually. Gives ya a good idea about what averages mean - nutin.

sparat1k

Hey guys, this will be my first go at the HH100. See you guys in hell

Andy

jsharr

Been off the bike for almost three weeks due to gunked up lungs and other family concerns. May get in a short ride tonight,but no way am I up for 60 miles. Thanks for thanking of me. Will def. hook up with ya'll soon though. Have fun in WF. May try to get some dinero to one of ya'll (Jon) for a t shirt.

jeffst

You have it nailed, Doggus.

When riding in a large group and drafting you can go quite a bit faster than when you ride solo. I think more people can manage 19-20 mph average in a large group ride [on our generally flat roads] for 35 miles than they think - as long as they stay in the draft and away from the front of the group.

But keeping up on those surges ... that's another story. And good training for races which is why it happens in these kinds of rides.

I have never done a Popsicle ride but plan to make the 610 tomorrow night.
Jeff

kevinmcdade

This is where I have problems on the faster training rides like the OAS and the 6:10 Popsicle ride.

cuda2k

I'm going to need some more experience in smaller groups before I feel comfortable in a high speed paceline of any sort. But I do agree that in a draft you can maintain a lot higher speed for alonger distance.

Jeff, your of course welcome to join us on the Sat morning ride out of RBM. I'm thinking of taking the 'Cuda down towards White Rock. With the south winds as of late, every body we can get to share the wind blocking duties on the way down will be great.

This is going to be my first trip to HHH, and my second Metric Century (heck, first one was nearly a year ago now!) I'm looking forward to it, though these evening heat training rides I've been, well, hot. Felt good to get out on one of the two road bikes again today after riding the heavy commuter/touring frame the last several days.

Lecterman

Speaking of the heat, on my commute home yesterday, it was burning hot and I was riding into the 20 mph northerly wind with a 20# backpack (including water bladder). I decided to make the best of the wind and my excess water so I kept sucking water from the tube and "misting" myself.

Gross? Yes
Desperate? Yes

But it worked as I was still able to average just under 17 mph for the route

jeffst

Kevin,

It takes time to get there. Riding with faster groups is one way to do it. And the other is to do intervals when riding solo. I do both and in the last year have improved quite a bit and get dropped a lot less than I used to. Oh, but I still get dropped :-)

Cuda,

Thanks for the invite. Usually I ride with a group on Saturday for 60-70 miles. This Saturday we are going to ride Hot Rocks in Rockwall. From what I hear it is a tough ride at the front as there is prize money at stake. So a lot of CAT 1/2 guys in there. I have no illusions about being able to keep up the entire 100k but I'll see how long I can hang in the pack.
Jeff

Lecterman

So guys, I am thinking Sunday. 8am. Here. It's an Albertson's here in Denton where Kevin and I met up last time.

45-50 miles 15-17 mph.

Shall we start the list?

I'm in, obviously

Lecterman

cuda2k

Sunday: I'm in

Saturday (RBM Richardson) Approx 30mi: I'm in

jsharr

Jon: What route you going to ride Sat and what pace? My sat plans just fell through. Want to ride but first time on bike in weeks. If you are heading to Whiterock, may drive down and do a lap or two around the lake with you. call me or PM me, or IM me at office tomorrow.

kevinmcdade

Unfortunately, I am going to have to be tentative for this ride. I have somehow injured my hand. I had a very painful ride tonight trying to ride with this injury. I am icing it and will stabilize it for a couple of days. If the pain still persists on Monday, I will be at the doctor getting an X-ray. I am going to see how it feels riding with my brace on. If I can manage it with my brace, I will be there. Stay tuned...

kevinmcdade

I AM IN!!! After some much needed rest yesterday and today I feel much better. The pain in my hand is almost gone. I am still not sure what I did to it. It is the wrist that I broke a couple of years ago so there is no telling what's going on with it.

I will be at the Albertson's at 8:00 sharp. Let me know if the plans have changed.

cuda2k

Kevin, great to hear you're feeling better!

I got up at the crack-o-dawn this morning and got over to RBM for the ride. Unforunately Jeff's youngest boy kept him and his wife up all night and he had to bail. And Marty is still battling some back problems (hope you get better soon!) so it was just me and Andy who's been riding now for about 2 months maybe. He did pretty well and has improved a lot since our last ride together. We rolled out to Sache and back for about 30mi. On the way out we started getting a few drops around the Breckenridge park but outran the majority of the rain. However on the way back we got to ride through VERY wet roads from Breckenridge all the way to I-75. Caught a little rain as we approached I-75 too.

On a side note, if anyone has any doubts if they should try Kool-Stop salmon pads, DO IT. This was my first wet ride and while my back brake (Shimano 105 pads) lost probably 50+% of their braking power, the fronts lost MAYBE 10% of theirs. I'll be updgrading the rear pads asap now.

See Fred and Kevin tomorrow.

kevinmcdade

It feels weird being off of the bike two days in a row. I only got in 130 miles this week compared to my 217 last week. I think my body was telling me to take a break. I keep looking outside and debating on riding but the wifey also thinks I should rest so she is encouraging me to rest today.

I will be well rested for tomorrow. I won't be bringing my Camelbak so a refuel stop would be nice.

cuda2k

A refuel would be VERY nice. I only went through part of my Cytomax supplies today, but the rain was keeping me much cooler than usual.

Fred, you have a route in mind?

Lecterman

Yeah, I have route that can take us about 45-50 miles. I plan to ride into town to meet you guys for the ride. One of the guys I ride with from the LBS will probably be joining us as well.

bung

I'm in for Sunday. Is 8am the meet time or the time you will be rolling out? I am coming from FtWorth so I want to have enough time to get to Denton.

I'll be carrying bottles only so I also vote for a refueling stop.

kevinmcdade

Cool, the more the merrier!!! I will probably be there at 7:45 or so. To beat the heat of the day we should probably be rolling out at 8:00, sharp. If you would like, I can PM my cell phone number to you so you can let us know if you are running late.

Lecterman

Sounds good to me.

Kevin,

I was thinking we can do the route you and I did last time, albeit a bit easier of a pace this time.

kevinmcdade

Is there an alternate to that last stetch home where we had to ride on the shoulder of the road?

cuda2k

I'll be there hopefully by 7:45 for an 8am rollout.

twbradford

I did a 95 mile ride today that absolutely kicked my butt in the last 20 miles.....I only had 5hrs sleep and I didn't eat right....and then the dang heat was just torture today....No cloud cover the last 20 miles.....it was around 98 degrees. I still came in with a 16.4 mph.....not wonderful but considering I was barely turning the cranks over in a few places....I don't feel too bad. Last time I did 83 on the same route at 18.1mph.
I think I am ready.