patentcad

Blowing money on silly overpriced bike schwag RULES.

Pcad speaks with authority on this issue. Ask my wfe. When I told her the transition over to Keo for the Pcad Bicycle Fleet would cost about $800, but that this expense would be offset by selling my old Speedplay X's, and that it would evolve over the next 9 months, she looked at me as if I had completely lost my mind.

My Mom is a divorce attorney. She has told me many times that she will represent my wife in any future dissolution of our marriage. I have no doubt that bike schwag expenditures can and would be used against me in such a dispute, and so will these BF posts. If I never mentioned any of this to my wife, she'd never even notice. Pcad is too honest.

Jynx

So it is extremely obvious you should blow more money and pick up another pair of pedals. I think you know what you should try next. Dura Ace PD-7810. They are 40 grams lighter then the ultegra. So instead of 120 grams slowing you down it will be 80 grams. Not sure if that is still to much weight.

GeoLes

I have been a SpeedPlay guy since 2000 and have never looked back. I guess it depends on the dynamics of your individual fit, cleat placement, anatomny, pedal style, etc. My knee problems dissapeard when I went to X-2. (I purchased a barely used set set from a friend) I was impress with the Keo's when I first saw them, but the price was a bit steep. No wear factor, and I find them perfectly adequete for my sidi-clad foot. Maybe it works differently for other shoes. I have large feet, (I wear a size 50-European) so I can't find quality shoes in many manufacturers.

This is a personal matter. What works for you may not work for me, etc.

botto 

and i care why?

mwrobe1

No need to.

Everyone knows its ALL ABOUT YOU.

ericcox

I have concluded 2 things from this thread. Either 1) I have misread Pcad in my months here on BF and he is not someone who says everything at least a little tongue-in-cheek with a good sense of humor and wit, or 2) there are a lot of people on here who lack in either a sense of humor or find Pcad's self-loathing wit in regard to bicycle stuff hits a little close to home so must attack him. My guess is #2 (really 2a&b).

Pcad, to you I say keep posting, hero of the weenies. I need a good laugh.

Oh, and the answer is to go with cheap keo knock-offs with cleats that don't break, even when walking up and down crappy stairs to my office.

patentcad

You get the BF Perceptive Weenie Award for 2007.

That could be a Fox TV series title (All About You). It's not easy being a BF star. At least there's no paparazzi.

Rutnick

whatever dude. 99.999% of the time you're a prick and I'm 99.9999% sure how you will respond to that as well.

patentcad

I KNOW botto can make up that last .001%. And he won't need a Power Meter either.

wfrogge

As a pro Simmons / Former elite inline speedskater I say David makes one ugly cycling shoe. This pic explains why nobody is talking about his product.

Rutnick

I always like to give people just a little room for improvement.

Actually, in most performance reviews, I'm always just a little bit too nice at times. He may actually only really be 98.999%

CastIron

So, anybody using Campy pedals?

botto 

and i give a 100% flying frak.

Rutnick

and that's why you will never surprise me.

posting by botto...

oh...he's still a prick...

next.

patentcad

Calm down boys. That's the steroids talking.



In the future, please refer to him as Mr. botto there son.

Rutnick

using Mr would be a sign of respect...I think you can guess where I'm going with that one, Dad.

NoRacer

Uh--huh.

Btw, there are 3 different cleats--red, grey, black (in decreasing amount of float). I tried the red... way too much float for this boy. I use grey. Black was good too, but seemed more brittle, and then actually cracked on me during a morning bike commute to work. Back to the grey.

Also, if you ever do want to go the sock route, double-layered WrightSocks are the way to go. I used to use them for marathon running and they work really well in cycling shoes too.

CastIron

Are those the fabled guads of Ryanf?

patentcad

Ryan's are slightly larger.

botto 

that means so much to me coming from you.

now move along and call someone who cares names.

mista_chewey

this doesn't look humanly possible.... why are his knees so skinny

patentcad

With that negative attitude you'll never become a pro cyclist.

Hocam

Pcad, now that you've biked 300 miles since yesterday, how are the pedals?

shogun17

Where are his knees?

I bet the guy has real trouble doing everything. If it isn't a photoshop.

patentcad

74 miles on the pedals over two days. I think I prefer the Keos. Enough float for me, considerably more stable and wide platform than the Speedplays (that's how they feel). They feel less prone to hot spots, and today I had booties on, so by the time I got back @ 10:30AM my feet were cooking pretty good (it warmed up fast today). There are several 16%+ grades going up to my house, and I could feel the hot spots cooking but they never really got painful. That's what seems to generate the hot spots: heat + hours + climbing. As to whether the Speedplay design was a factor, we'll see, but that wouldn't be surprising, the hot spots were right over the lollipop section of where the X's focus all the pressure on your foot. Keos and other simllar pedals do a better job of spreading that out. Overall I also think it's a better idea to have the clip tension mechanism on the pedal body and not on the shoe cleat you walk on. The Keo cleats are harder to walk on, but I don't make it a practice to walk on my roadie shoes. I put those on to ride my bike, not to jerk around @ Starbucks. What a concept.

As I mentioned, I'll ride 110 miles on Saturday, a ride that's always gotten those hot spots to fire off. If they pass that test, I'll switch over to them on my 3 bikes. I'll probably do it anyway, I like the clip in/out action and the solid platform more than the Speedplays. Besides, this is the hot new bike schwag, and Speedplays are the been there/done that bike schwag.*

* This last statement constitutes the real and truthful reason Pcad procured this latest cycling accoutrement, all previous allegations, justifications, explainations, scenarios and bull**** presented by Pcad should be ignored for the static that it essentially is. Well, OK, my feet do hurt on long rides and I really want this to help. For God's sake, I went to my wife's nail salon and had them file down the callouses on the bottom of my feet last year. I felt like that big monster in the Bugs Bunny cartoon that gets the perm: