No kidding. And so it shall be. Stay tuned.

Not if I can help it......

The point isn't that thread in particular. Nor one individual in particular. It is the attitude of this forum in general.

Psimet2001, umd, pcad, bdcheung, all of ya'll are good guys. I've got no personal beef with any of ya'll. Nor does any other mod that I know of. But I do think ya'll bust on some people a little too hard a little too often. If as a whole we could back it down a couple notches, I think we'd all get along better, still have a lot of fun. If pcad wants to start a thread saying everyone who rides less than him is for wussy, fine. Psimet, I know you do hold a lot of rides and wish I could make it up to one. I'd ride with you any time (if I can keep up). umd, love reading about your rides and racing. Sharing experience and experences of cycling is what this forum is here for. But when members do not feel welcome or comfortable sharing their experiences, questions, etc because of the expected responses, something needs to be addressed.

Perhaps some new members do have a thin skin. Perhaps pcad and a few others are used to a rougher sort of fellow cyclist than others of us. This is a global forum, and we need to remember that and respect that.

If you can rescue the Big Three automakers and resolve the World Financial Crisis, perhaps you can.

?.....round?

...I'm too fat for this sport.

I bought a Dodge truck and a Starbucks Coffee. My job is done.

I'm only buying the Cervelo to prop up the economy. That's my Big Sacrifice for The Cause.

Where is this newb? If I hug him can we end this?

Job well done....:thumb:

Go down to Trinidad and see ole Doc Biber...he can make women out of men, so I'm sure he can make you a man too! :eek:

This isn't the racing forum. Not all of us race. We shouldn't expect to have to be race hardened before posting here. My local cycling club, we have over 300 members, from people who just bought a road bike and can barely do 25mi at a 15mph average. We also have guys who are Cat 2 / Cat 3 and probably higher. The language out on the road with one group is going to be different than the other. And there are plenty of shades between the two. But at the end of the rides, when we all get done and chat and have lunch afterwards, there isn't a Cat 2 telling the guy who just did 25mi and is ready to collapse that they need to HTFU or leave.

And personally I don't care if you think that a discouraging work from someone isn't going to make or break them as a future cyclist. Why do you feel compelled to say those discouraging words to someone you've never interacted with before in your life? Seriously, why?

I bet you're laughing at all the naysayers every time you fill up now....

But deep down I know it is temporary. I am just enjoying it while we can. In 3 weeks we are driving to Florida. Mark my word prices will increase just before we leave......

I posted this in the socal forum. I thought afterwords maybe I should have posted it in the road forum but didn't want to double post.

Why do you feel compelled to pass judgement based on your false presumptions? For the same reason you seem to think anyone cares about your other pompous judgmental thinking? They don't. At least I don't. By the way, using the term 'seriously' in this discussion is even more silly now that I've attempted to engage you in a reasonable manner, which clearly was my first mistake. Don't worry, that won't happen again.

You showed me alright. It's time for the Fredcedrin.

You know, on the surface, we joke, we laugh. But really, deep down inside... we joke, we laugh.

Uh, if that's his work on display in your icon Chip...

Also, I just want to add that the demeanor and presentation of a poster will affect the replies they get. Contrast the thread we are talking about here with this one.

sounds like quite the ride - 100 miles with just one stop?

kudos, umd.

Are we done yet? Can this be closed now?

I was going to not stop at all but I remembered last time I rode out there I didn't make the stop and ran out of water and there was nowhere else along the route to get any. So I stopped and bought a gatorade and bottle of water. I hate having to buy water but it is a motorcycle hangout and they don't like to encourage cyclists so rather than even ask I just bought both, filled my bottles and continued on my way. The irony is that I didn't end up needing it. Oh well.

Come on Siu, we're just getting rolling here. Don't close the 'Can't We All Be Kinder and Gentler' thread just as it has devolved into the Mother of All Flame Wars.

One can only think of all the shattered newbies lurking out there, shivering in their foxholes, wondering if that brand new $1399 Closeout Trek and $99 2 year old Disco Kit was a mistake after all as they hear Pcad and Cuda tearing each other new BF aholes.

Hydrate or Die my ass. Water is for Wussy.

I looked at that thread last night UMD and thought the same exact thing.

I got some green chilis here that'll ensure you both remember where your real ahole is...just before it melts.