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If I felt like discussing my personal finances with the world, I would have offered that up to begin with. How I was able to procure funds for this should be of no concern to you or anyone else. My parents did not pay for it (would you buy your grown 20y/o son an overly expensive bike, even if you did have the money to), I don't own a house to take an equity loan, and I don't think I could write off a bike on a student loan.
Who you should be questioning are all the 40y/o males with three kids, a mortgage, bills to pay, etc. I'm a student with nothing to spend money on except what I see worth it. I don't even pay for school or room / board as when you TA for the school, they comp that out instead of a salary. If I make $10, I pay uncle his fair share, and I can spend what ever I have left over on what ever I want.
I appreciate everyones concern for the well being of my finances, but seriously, drop it.
Who you should be questioning are all the 40y/o males with three kids, a mortgage, bills to pay, etc. I'm a student with nothing to spend money on except what I see worth it. I don't even pay for school or room / board as when you TA for the school, they comp that out instead of a salary. If I make $10, I pay uncle his fair share, and I can spend what ever I have left over on what ever I want.
I appreciate everyones concern for the well being of my finances, but seriously, drop it.
All I will say on this matter is that when people asked you how a 20 year old can "afford" to drop $10k on a bike, you eluded to the fact that you live a frugal lifestyle. However, to also find out you have a an Audi A4 and apparently drive a $110k Porshe, I think it is a little disinegenuous to perpetuate an image that you are doing all this on your own. And as a student nonetheless. If you tell me you did it on your own with some creative internet business, then kudos for you. But I bet you Daddy is your main source of income.
Good for you that you have wealthy parents. I wouldn't begrudge anyone the lifestyle they were born into, but just say, "I have generous parents" that allow me to buy these things even if you think you "paid" for the bike on your own.
Nice bike, but I still say there is a fit issue with it. Too many spacers and seatpost is too high.
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Yeah I missed the porsche stuff, but I still say so what. When I was in college wasn't that long ago, I'm only 30. I worked hard through school and bought stuff I wanted. I saved money and have a good retirement plan through work. Then I got married and all my money seemed to disappear. Much more of a money sink than a porsche and a $10k bike if you ask me
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It's no wonder your avatar is green. Envy is killing you man.
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I was hopping someone would pick up on this, but apparently not. I never said I paid for this bike by skipping coffee in the morning - I was simply giving an example of how things can add up. What I meant was, not skipping coffee, but instead more skipping things like the latest iPhone or a shiny new computer, etc.
Since the OCD seems to not be subsiding: I started my own company a few years back and have had a lot of good luck with it - that is how I am able to spend more then your average college student. Yes, I do have a thing for cars, own a few fancy camera pieces, and a some other things here and there. Big deal. I worked my ass off to get where I am, and albeit young, it wasn't handed to me. Even if it was, what difference does it make? Because someone's parents paid for something makes them instantly unworthy of it? As for school, I simply started a couple of years early. Average age for graduation is 17/18, so I was about 2 years ahead. If you don't know anyone who started school early, you either live in a very handicapped town or just don't know enough people.
I am sorry if I offended any coffee lovers or late graduators, but I didn't post here to be assaulted for my weight (which I have no control over but am trying to up) or any luck I've had in my life. I was simply excited about picking up what I thought was a pretty cool bike, and silly me, thinking this was an actual bike forum, thought other people would be excited to. As I've said before, I really appreciate all the genuine comments and kind words. As for those who have an issue with me, perhaps you should spend more time riding and less time getting hot and bothered with some 20y/o on the internet.
Since the OCD seems to not be subsiding: I started my own company a few years back and have had a lot of good luck with it - that is how I am able to spend more then your average college student. Yes, I do have a thing for cars, own a few fancy camera pieces, and a some other things here and there. Big deal. I worked my ass off to get where I am, and albeit young, it wasn't handed to me. Even if it was, what difference does it make? Because someone's parents paid for something makes them instantly unworthy of it? As for school, I simply started a couple of years early. Average age for graduation is 17/18, so I was about 2 years ahead. If you don't know anyone who started school early, you either live in a very handicapped town or just don't know enough people.
I am sorry if I offended any coffee lovers or late graduators, but I didn't post here to be assaulted for my weight (which I have no control over but am trying to up) or any luck I've had in my life. I was simply excited about picking up what I thought was a pretty cool bike, and silly me, thinking this was an actual bike forum, thought other people would be excited to. As I've said before, I really appreciate all the genuine comments and kind words. As for those who have an issue with me, perhaps you should spend more time riding and less time getting hot and bothered with some 20y/o on the internet.
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I was hopping someone would pick up on this, but apparently not. I never said I paid for this bike by skipping coffee in the morning - I was simply giving an example of how things can add up. What I meant was, not skipping coffee, but instead more skipping things like the latest iPhone or a shiny new computer, etc.
Since the OCD seems to not be subsiding: I started my own company a few years back and have had a lot of good luck with it - that is how I am able to spend more then your average college student. Yes, I do have a thing for cars, own a few fancy camera pieces, and a some other things here and there. Big deal. I worked my ass off to get where I am, and albeit young, it wasn't handed to me. Even if it was, what difference does it make? Because someone's parents paid for something makes them instantly unworthy of it? As for school, I simply started a couple of years early. Average age for graduation is 17/18, so I was about 2 years ahead. If you don't know anyone who started school early, you either live in a very handicapped town or just don't know enough people.
I am sorry if I offended any coffee lovers or late graduators, but I didn't post here to be assaulted for my weight (which I have no control over but am trying to up) or any luck I've had in my life. I was simply excited about picking up what I thought was a pretty cool bike, and silly me, thinking this was an actual bike forum, thought other people would be excited to. As I've said before, I really appreciate all the genuine comments and kind words. As for those who have an issue with me, perhaps you should spend more time riding and less time getting hot and bothered with some 20y/o on the internet.
Since the OCD seems to not be subsiding: I started my own company a few years back and have had a lot of good luck with it - that is how I am able to spend more then your average college student. Yes, I do have a thing for cars, own a few fancy camera pieces, and a some other things here and there. Big deal. I worked my ass off to get where I am, and albeit young, it wasn't handed to me. Even if it was, what difference does it make? Because someone's parents paid for something makes them instantly unworthy of it? As for school, I simply started a couple of years early. Average age for graduation is 17/18, so I was about 2 years ahead. If you don't know anyone who started school early, you either live in a very handicapped town or just don't know enough people.
I am sorry if I offended any coffee lovers or late graduators, but I didn't post here to be assaulted for my weight (which I have no control over but am trying to up) or any luck I've had in my life. I was simply excited about picking up what I thought was a pretty cool bike, and silly me, thinking this was an actual bike forum, thought other people would be excited to. As I've said before, I really appreciate all the genuine comments and kind words. As for those who have an issue with me, perhaps you should spend more time riding and less time getting hot and bothered with some 20y/o on the internet.
Back to your bike though, do you have the cadence sensor for your Garmin? I couldnt see it on there. Is it worth getting? I'm getting the 310XT forerunner and I dont know if that's got the same analysis features as the 705 for the cadence, but I'm debating getting a Powertap instead.
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Back to your bike though, do you have the cadence sensor for your Garmin? I couldnt see it on there. Is it worth getting? I'm getting the 310XT forerunner and I dont know if that's got the same analysis features as the 705 for the cadence, but I'm debating getting a Powertap instead.
I love the cadence, but that's only because I'm just starting out again, and it helps me to gauge my speed. If you have your rhythm down tho, there wouldn't be much need to get it. I do believe you can add it after the fact tho, so no worries if you change your mind.
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I was hopping someone would pick up on this, but apparently not. I never said I paid for this bike by skipping coffee in the morning - I was simply giving an example of how things can add up. What I meant was, not skipping coffee, but instead more skipping things like the latest iPhone or a shiny new computer, etc.
Since the OCD seems to not be subsiding: I started my own company a few years back and have had a lot of good luck with it - that is how I am able to spend more then your average college student. Yes, I do have a thing for cars, own a few fancy camera pieces, and a some other things here and there. Big deal. I worked my ass off to get where I am, and albeit young, it wasn't handed to me. Even if it was, what difference does it make? Because someone's parents paid for something makes them instantly unworthy of it? As for school, I simply started a couple of years early. Average age for graduation is 17/18, so I was about 2 years ahead. If you don't know anyone who started school early, you either live in a very handicapped town or just don't know enough people.
I am sorry if I offended any coffee lovers or late graduators, but I didn't post here to be assaulted for my weight (which I have no control over but am trying to up) or any luck I've had in my life. I was simply excited about picking up what I thought was a pretty cool bike, and silly me, thinking this was an actual bike forum, thought other people would be excited to. As I've said before, I really appreciate all the genuine comments and kind words. As for those who have an issue with me, perhaps you should spend more time riding and less time getting hot and bothered with some 20y/o on the internet.
Since the OCD seems to not be subsiding: I started my own company a few years back and have had a lot of good luck with it - that is how I am able to spend more then your average college student. Yes, I do have a thing for cars, own a few fancy camera pieces, and a some other things here and there. Big deal. I worked my ass off to get where I am, and albeit young, it wasn't handed to me. Even if it was, what difference does it make? Because someone's parents paid for something makes them instantly unworthy of it? As for school, I simply started a couple of years early. Average age for graduation is 17/18, so I was about 2 years ahead. If you don't know anyone who started school early, you either live in a very handicapped town or just don't know enough people.
I am sorry if I offended any coffee lovers or late graduators, but I didn't post here to be assaulted for my weight (which I have no control over but am trying to up) or any luck I've had in my life. I was simply excited about picking up what I thought was a pretty cool bike, and silly me, thinking this was an actual bike forum, thought other people would be excited to. As I've said before, I really appreciate all the genuine comments and kind words. As for those who have an issue with me, perhaps you should spend more time riding and less time getting hot and bothered with some 20y/o on the internet.
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I was hopping someone would pick up on this, but apparently not. I never said I paid for this bike by skipping coffee in the morning - I was simply giving an example of how things can add up. What I meant was, not skipping coffee, but instead more skipping things like the latest iPhone or a shiny new computer, etc.
Since the OCD seems to not be subsiding: I started my own company a few years back and have had a lot of good luck with it - that is how I am able to spend more then your average college student. Yes, I do have a thing for cars, own a few fancy camera pieces, and a some other things here and there. Big deal. I worked my ass off to get where I am, and albeit young, it wasn't handed to me. Even if it was, what difference does it make? Because someone's parents paid for something makes them instantly unworthy of it? As for school, I simply started a couple of years early. Average age for graduation is 17/18, so I was about 2 years ahead. If you don't know anyone who started school early, you either live in a very handicapped town or just don't know enough people.
I am sorry if I offended any coffee lovers or late graduators, but I didn't post here to be assaulted for my weight (which I have no control over but am trying to up) or any luck I've had in my life. I was simply excited about picking up what I thought was a pretty cool bike, and silly me, thinking this was an actual bike forum, thought other people would be excited to. As I've said before, I really appreciate all the genuine comments and kind words. As for those who have an issue with me, perhaps you should spend more time riding and less time getting hot and bothered with some 20y/o on the internet.
Since the OCD seems to not be subsiding: I started my own company a few years back and have had a lot of good luck with it - that is how I am able to spend more then your average college student. Yes, I do have a thing for cars, own a few fancy camera pieces, and a some other things here and there. Big deal. I worked my ass off to get where I am, and albeit young, it wasn't handed to me. Even if it was, what difference does it make? Because someone's parents paid for something makes them instantly unworthy of it? As for school, I simply started a couple of years early. Average age for graduation is 17/18, so I was about 2 years ahead. If you don't know anyone who started school early, you either live in a very handicapped town or just don't know enough people.
I am sorry if I offended any coffee lovers or late graduators, but I didn't post here to be assaulted for my weight (which I have no control over but am trying to up) or any luck I've had in my life. I was simply excited about picking up what I thought was a pretty cool bike, and silly me, thinking this was an actual bike forum, thought other people would be excited to. As I've said before, I really appreciate all the genuine comments and kind words. As for those who have an issue with me, perhaps you should spend more time riding and less time getting hot and bothered with some 20y/o on the internet.
First of all, getting to college at age 15 puts you ahead of most of the game and right there tells a lot about possible reasons why you're able do afford what you do. I hope they all give it a rest. You don't need a pat on the head for all your current accomplishments, which is more than what I can say for a lot of the people on this forum!
Again, congrats on the bike! Let me be the first to say that you deserve it!
Joe
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I was hopping someone would pick up on this, but apparently not. I never said I paid for this bike by skipping coffee in the morning - I was simply giving an example of how things can add up. What I meant was, not skipping coffee, but instead more skipping things like the latest iPhone or a shiny new computer, etc.
Since the OCD seems to not be subsiding: I started my own company a few years back and have had a lot of good luck with it - that is how I am able to spend more then your average college student. Yes, I do have a thing for cars, own a few fancy camera pieces, and a some other things here and there. Big deal. I worked my ass off to get where I am, and albeit young, it wasn't handed to me. Even if it was, what difference does it make? Because someone's parents paid for something makes them instantly unworthy of it? As for school, I simply started a couple of years early. Average age for graduation is 17/18, so I was about 2 years ahead. If you don't know anyone who started school early, you either live in a very handicapped town or just don't know enough people.
I am sorry if I offended any coffee lovers or late graduators, but I didn't post here to be assaulted for my weight (which I have no control over but am trying to up) or any luck I've had in my life. I was simply excited about picking up what I thought was a pretty cool bike, and silly me, thinking this was an actual bike forum, thought other people would be excited to. As I've said before, I really appreciate all the genuine comments and kind words. As for those who have an issue with me, perhaps you should spend more time riding and less time getting hot and bothered with some 20y/o on the internet.
Since the OCD seems to not be subsiding: I started my own company a few years back and have had a lot of good luck with it - that is how I am able to spend more then your average college student. Yes, I do have a thing for cars, own a few fancy camera pieces, and a some other things here and there. Big deal. I worked my ass off to get where I am, and albeit young, it wasn't handed to me. Even if it was, what difference does it make? Because someone's parents paid for something makes them instantly unworthy of it? As for school, I simply started a couple of years early. Average age for graduation is 17/18, so I was about 2 years ahead. If you don't know anyone who started school early, you either live in a very handicapped town or just don't know enough people.
I am sorry if I offended any coffee lovers or late graduators, but I didn't post here to be assaulted for my weight (which I have no control over but am trying to up) or any luck I've had in my life. I was simply excited about picking up what I thought was a pretty cool bike, and silly me, thinking this was an actual bike forum, thought other people would be excited to. As I've said before, I really appreciate all the genuine comments and kind words. As for those who have an issue with me, perhaps you should spend more time riding and less time getting hot and bothered with some 20y/o on the internet.
Thank your dad. It is ok to admit that and ride that bike. Don't stare at it.
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Geez lazy, don't be such an ass.
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I dont see how you can be insulted when someone says that they "skipped starbucks" to save enough money for a bike. Assuming he spent 10k on his bike "that'll get ridden around campus" is probably the most ridiculous thing I think you've said so far in your series of responses to the OP. Just because he's a student doesnt mean that's all he does with his life. Right now I'm a student. This past year I've spent about 10k on bikes and related gear. Does that mean I'm just doing laps around campus too?
It's not impossible to do what he's done. I went to school with some folks who graduated from HS early. It's not hard to do at all. You can go to college and/or grad school for free if you've got grants and scholarships, also not hard to do. Working while you're in school brings in income, and if he's got no expenses, it's very feasible that he has enough money for all that. When I was 25, I owned a house and a new Corvette Z06, had my Masters degree, and had plenty left over for fun toys and retirement plan that was on track for future success. So tell me Suze Orman, how is his financial situation impossible?
Just admit you're jealous and that's the only reason you're criticizing the OP. You say you dont care, but you obviously do. If he said he was 40 years old, you wouldn't have given two turds about where his finances are coming from.
It's not impossible to do what he's done. I went to school with some folks who graduated from HS early. It's not hard to do at all. You can go to college and/or grad school for free if you've got grants and scholarships, also not hard to do. Working while you're in school brings in income, and if he's got no expenses, it's very feasible that he has enough money for all that. When I was 25, I owned a house and a new Corvette Z06, had my Masters degree, and had plenty left over for fun toys and retirement plan that was on track for future success. So tell me Suze Orman, how is his financial situation impossible?
Just admit you're jealous and that's the only reason you're criticizing the OP. You say you dont care, but you obviously do. If he said he was 40 years old, you wouldn't have given two turds about where his finances are coming from.
Before you question me, please know all of the facts and read the entire thread--or at least the last 3-4 pages. You missed the Porsche, the Audi, the Camera equimpent, etc. Have you dropped a cool $200K in the last year or two? I doubt it.
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I guess it's immoral to earn and spend.
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sweeeet bike......I hate the bars ...weird drops what are they?
But well done my good man....
But well done my good man....
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Still a pretty cryptic answer. Getting "lucky" with a business that you started at 18 is one thing. Buying $160,000 + in cars is another. You may fool some of these knuckleheads, but I ain't buying that. I wasn't going to ask you where and how you get $, but your answers and the Porsche changed things.
Thank your dad. It is ok to admit that and ride that bike. Don't stare at it.
Thank your dad. It is ok to admit that and ride that bike. Don't stare at it.
Now go do another quest on World of Warcraft and keep shouting "MA, THE MEATLOAF!"
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Dude, don't apologize for success. You have a great bike (albeit a Cervelo) and you have some great toys. Too many posters on here think that if you don't do it on the cheap, you have somehow cheated the systematic process. You done good, enjoy your toys and success. If you feel the need to apologize for your success, make amends by buying a NASCAR head wrap for $5.00 at Wally World and the nay sayers will fall back in grazing line with you.
Again, you're not reading the entire thread.
1) The original premise of the questioning was that should a 20 year old college student buy a $10K bike when you have basically, you're entire life ahead of you and will surely want a nice house, cars, no student loans, etc. Not hating, just asking a responsible question.
2) Then we found out a 10K bike is just a drop in the pan compared to a $110K Porsche and an Audi S4 as a "beater" car.
3) Then we questioned the "frugal spending" comment and found out that the OP might or might not have loaded parents (that's still my theory) and might or might not be rich from his own business.
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Recap:
Again, you're not reading the entire thread.
1) The original premise of the questioning was that should a 20 year old college student buy a $10K bike when you have basically, you're entire life ahead of you and will surely want a nice house, cars, no student loans, etc. Not hating, just asking a responsible question.
2) Then we found out a 10K bike is just a drop in the pan compared to a $110K Porsche and an Audi S4 as a "beater" car.
3) Then we questioned the "frugal spending" comment and found out that the OP might or might not have loaded parents (that's still my theory) and might or might not be rich from his own business.
Again, you're not reading the entire thread.
1) The original premise of the questioning was that should a 20 year old college student buy a $10K bike when you have basically, you're entire life ahead of you and will surely want a nice house, cars, no student loans, etc. Not hating, just asking a responsible question.
2) Then we found out a 10K bike is just a drop in the pan compared to a $110K Porsche and an Audi S4 as a "beater" car.
3) Then we questioned the "frugal spending" comment and found out that the OP might or might not have loaded parents (that's still my theory) and might or might not be rich from his own business.
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Sorry to the OP with the awesome Cervelo, but this thread is the best entertainment since the last time someone posted about their new Motobecane.
The envy and jealousy is a wonderful change from the snobbery and condescension of the Bikesdirect threads.
The envy and jealousy is a wonderful change from the snobbery and condescension of the Bikesdirect threads.
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As for the fit issues: The height is perfect (according to the fitters and what I feel when riding). The seat is 78cm from crank, which doesn't seem abnormal for most bikes I saw. I think the issue was the angle of the original photo I took. I snapped some pictures (really crappy ones, sorry) of the top and (almost) bottom of my stroke.
The bars (Ritchey Carbon Pro II - someone asked which ones they were, very comfortable despite their odd shape) are very high. I apparently don't have that great of a flexibility in my lower back or neck, so he mounted them up higher to help take some pressure off. I was told that after a month or so of riding, I would most likely be flexible enough at that point to remove the spacers and get to something more the norm.
The bars (Ritchey Carbon Pro II - someone asked which ones they were, very comfortable despite their odd shape) are very high. I apparently don't have that great of a flexibility in my lower back or neck, so he mounted them up higher to help take some pressure off. I was told that after a month or so of riding, I would most likely be flexible enough at that point to remove the spacers and get to something more the norm.
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Don't be so naive. Look, I couldn't care less how much money he has at his disposal. There is an enormous amount of wealth where I live, so nothing surprises me. But when he is asked (not by me) where he gets his money and he says by being "frugal". OK, I can buy that. However, throw in the Porsche and the Audi, then I know I am dealing with a rich dad. WITHOUT A DOUBT.
But, a lot of you guys are being hypocritical here becasue the fact that this kid hasn't been cycling long and is obviously not "strong" in his skills or abilities yet. He is the prototypical "Poseur" and "Fred" that many of you often speak of. Yet now, you guys don't seem to have issue with that because he is being called out.
IMNSHO, It seems a little disproportionate to spend that much right out of the box before someone is engrossed in a sport. I can ride ANY bike I want, but limit money spent based on my enthusiasm, dedication and knowledge from many years of experience. That is me and if someone wants to ride a $12k bike at 16 mph, more power to them, but I would be embarrassed to do so until I felt I "deserved" that ride.
But, a lot of you guys are being hypocritical here becasue the fact that this kid hasn't been cycling long and is obviously not "strong" in his skills or abilities yet. He is the prototypical "Poseur" and "Fred" that many of you often speak of. Yet now, you guys don't seem to have issue with that because he is being called out.
IMNSHO, It seems a little disproportionate to spend that much right out of the box before someone is engrossed in a sport. I can ride ANY bike I want, but limit money spent based on my enthusiasm, dedication and knowledge from many years of experience. That is me and if someone wants to ride a $12k bike at 16 mph, more power to them, but I would be embarrassed to do so until I felt I "deserved" that ride.
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Before you question the OP, how about you know all the facts about his bank account and financial status? Better yet, how about you just not bring it up and be an insulting toolbag about it when its none of your business anyway.
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As for the fit issues: The height is perfect (according to the fitters and what I feel when riding). The seat is 78cm from crank, which doesn't seem abnormal for most bikes I saw. I think the issue was the angle of the original photo I took. I snapped some pictures (really crappy ones, sorry) of the top and (almost) bottom of my stroke.
The bars (Ritchey Carbon Pro II - someone asked which ones they were, very comfortable despite their odd shape) are very high. I apparently don't have that great of a flexibility in my lower back or neck, so he mounted them up higher to help take some pressure off. I was told that after a month or so of riding, I would most likely be flexible enough at that point to remove the spacers and get to something more the norm.
The bars (Ritchey Carbon Pro II - someone asked which ones they were, very comfortable despite their odd shape) are very high. I apparently don't have that great of a flexibility in my lower back or neck, so he mounted them up higher to help take some pressure off. I was told that after a month or so of riding, I would most likely be flexible enough at that point to remove the spacers and get to something more the norm.
OK,
You have really long legs for someone only 5' 10". So the amount of seatpost makes sense now. There is nothing wrong with the height of the bars if you are comfortable like that, but for safety reasons, fewer spacers on a lightweight carbon steerer may be prudent.
But to be honest, I think you LBS put you on too small a frame. You could have easily went with a size up to have more headtube height. Or was it one they had in stock and wanted to move?
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I will say that I am always surprised at how much peoples balls are enlarged while sitting in front of their computer. No normal person would EVER sit there and argue about my life, of which they know NOTHING about, to my face. Yet online, anything goes. I call it the e-peen effect. People always like to take their e-peen out, wave it around, and show that they're bigger then everyone else, for what ever it's worth, which is almost always nothing.
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Pick up some protein powder too bro!!