I do look svelter.

Hey kimco, next time make sure there are no girls in the picture. Hey, at least she's behind me. Combined 35+ and women's race. Some of those broads were faster than me. There's a shock.

It wasn't a crit you idiots. 35 mile circuit race on a warm humid day. That's two bottle event for me. Hydrate or die you silly Freds.

Well clearly the added bottle didn't help your performance at all.


:P

Their tolerance for the non-Road Nazi crowd (i.e. 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999+ % of humanity) is minimal. It's a problem.

At least I showed up and raced Fredly. Not for nothing, but if you race, you're going to get shelled. Felt much better on Nyack today, rode near front for the 30 mile stretch my pal and I Don, when I turned around as we peeled off, I was rather amazed at the size of the peloton behind me, had to be 80+ guys.

They won't shell me in PP the next time. Eff that action. Pcad will be ready.

I was just joking with you pcad, calm your fredly self down. I didn't race because I had prom, but I normally do race on the weekends, and I normally do get shelled...

'Prom'?

This place is like Velo Romper Room.

Oh, I just figured that both pucker muscles were controlled by the same part of the brain.

I'm still working on what the problem is as you point out. Do we need a better ratio or more tolerance?

I'm starting to realize that I will never go as hard in training as I do in races or rides like Nyack. It's never gonna happen. I don't know why. I go as hard as I can in training. But when I'm trying to hold the wheel or I'm on a fast ride or race my HR is consistently higher. Got a great workout yesterday and today in PP and on Nyack. Nyack was odd today. 28+ mph going south, it was so fast, I'm thinking 'if they keep going this hard it will be like yesterday and it could be a problem'. But then we turned around to go north, and even though there was a 3-4 man break, nobody seemed motivated to chase. I know because I was up in front trying to get something going, and I'm certainly not one of the stronger guys on that ride. Go figure. But that ride felt relatively easy for me today, which was a good sign, hopefully I'm getting fitter. Wasn't a hard Nyack, but if I'm up front feeling comfortable, it's encouraging.

I think that means it's time for the Tuesday night Worlds on a regular basis.

I don't train with HRM or power, but based on PE, I experience the same thing. I dig wayy deeper in races, which is one of the reasons why for me, I still believe that racing is the best training. Nothing beats that zen state you reach when the only thing on your mind is holding onto the wheel in front. It's like nothing else matters, just watch the wheel and don't let it slip away.

I'm sure there are plenty of racers who push themselves very hard in training, and I try, but I do better when I'm riding with guys faster than me.

Which is anybody with a racing license who's not a Cat 5, and even some of them.

I think it just proves that you are faster without your iPod.

Incorrect.

I am looking svelte though.

Would you like my Pcad Diet Secrets?

Shouldn't you save that for the book?

If you want to get skinnier, eat less.

What actually worked for me was to just eat better. And drink more water.

Helmet totally matches. Elbows are always locked right before I detonate. Cable routing is fine. What's wrong with 404 clinchers?

I don't know 254's name but she is always racing--she's in some pictures I took from the Spring Series back in March; she changed her frame from some green, blue, orange monstrosity to that CAAD9.

Also, I must admit, I got dropped badly on the way to Nyack during the winter by some of those Comedy Central women. But then again, I get dropped badly all the time so it really doesn't matter...

That babe looks even svelter than New Skinny Pcad.

hey pcad

don't feel bad. I always lose to girls. they seem to have a better power weight ratio. bone mass?

my experiance:

Avg HR solo training -130-155
Avg HR during group rides - 150-170
Avg HR during races -177,180,183

my HR while shopping at Shoprite yesterday (IE moving around) was 49 for what it is worth.

Clearly Races work you over harder...only when I am with other guys do I look down to discover I am recovering at 180bpm.

my hr goes up while shopping.

That's a very feminine trait coasting.

funny thing happened today on an uphill standing effort. the rear wheel lifted off the ground and slipped sideways. that was scary