Addiction I
02-13-10 | 09:36 PM
#76
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Are you seriously going to reference Velonews for real world prices? I'm glad I didn't just pay an extra $700 for the Dura Ace wheels I just ordered...As for the shop talk, NY is relatively flat. I can power up any climb (or any that I have found so far) without changing gears too much.
Nevertheless, when I was out in CA with legitimate mountains consisting of multiple switchbacks, elevation changes, etc., it would have been nice--as in a novelty--to have Di2's mouse button shifting and auto-trim as opposed to SRAM Red.
At my level of riding, however, let's face it, Tiagra tuned by my hands is good enough. But make no mistake, Di2 is just better...
Yep, I am serious. Whether or not the market dictates prices to go down due to sales has nothing to do with what Shimano originally set for the group price which IS HIGHER than Force. Force is selling better and I have seen Rival prices go up fom when I got mine (09 Rival). So it is not surprising that Shimano set unrealistic MSRPs with the necessity to have to lower the price once it hit the market with lukewarm reviews.
02-13-10 | 09:38 PM
#77
Señor Member
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From: Brooklyn, NY
Bikes: 2018 Lynskey R380 Ti | 2011 Hampsten Travelissimo Gran Paradiso Ti | 2001 De Rosa Neo Primato - Batik Del Monte, Genius | 1991 Eddy Merckx - Motorola, TSX
Yep, I am serious. Whether or not the market dictates prices to go down due to sales has nothing to do with what Shimano originally set for the group price which IS HIGHER than Force. Force is selling better and I have seen Rival prices go up fom when I got mine (09 Rival). So it is not surprising that Shimano set unrealistic MSRPs with the necessity to have to lower the price once it hit the market with lukewarm reviews.
02-13-10 | 09:51 PM
#79
White Bags + Red eggs
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From: Goshen NY
"NY is flat"..LOL Classic
02-13-10 | 09:53 PM
#80
Fly on the wall
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From: Colorado Springs
Bikes: a few
02-13-10 | 09:54 PM
#81
Lost
Joined: Jun 2008
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From: nutley, nj
bike looks great, congratulations.
02-13-10 | 09:56 PM
#82
Headset-press carrier
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From: Corrales New Mexico
Bikes: Kona with Campy 8, Lynskey Ti with Rival, Bianchi pista, Raleigh Team Frame with SRAM Red, Specialized Stump Jumper, Surley Big Dummy
02-13-10 | 10:03 PM
#84
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From: Granbury, Texas
What saddle do you have on that thing?
02-13-10 | 10:04 PM
#85
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From: Australia
Bikes: I hate bikes.
I'm soon getting 6700. How nice is it? Can you really only downshift 2 at a time?
02-13-10 | 10:08 PM
#86
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Here you go, but you seem to have all the answers. You do the math.
https://www.glorycycles.com/shul67gr.html
https://www.glorycycles.com/srfo20grset.html
https://www.glorycycles.com/shul67gr.html
https://www.glorycycles.com/srfo20grset.html
02-13-10 | 10:10 PM
#87
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Peloton Shelter Dog
Joined: Nov 2005
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From: Chester, NY
Bikes: 2017 Scott Foil, 2016 Scott Addict SL, 2018 Santa Cruz Blur CC MTB
02-13-10 | 10:11 PM
#88
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Peloton Shelter Dog
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From: Chester, NY
Bikes: 2017 Scott Foil, 2016 Scott Addict SL, 2018 Santa Cruz Blur CC MTB
02-13-10 | 10:13 PM
#89
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From: Chester, NY
Bikes: 2017 Scott Foil, 2016 Scott Addict SL, 2018 Santa Cruz Blur CC MTB
Actually, Bear Mountain is a 1200 vertical feet, 4 mile climb from the Hudson River (9W near Iona Island) to the top, so it's really a small mountain by most definitions. This mountain vs. hill debate is rather silly in my view. At the end of the day it depends who you're chasing up the hill it that makes it hard.
02-13-10 | 10:49 PM
#90
You gonna eat that?
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From: Fort Worth, Texas Church of Hopeful Uncertainty
Bikes: 1966 Raleigh DL-1 Tourist, 1973 Schwinn Varsity, 1983 Raleigh Marathon, 1994 Nishiki Sport XRS
And just a week or two ago, we all wanted Cervelos. At least the Scott looks like a bike.
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02-13-10 | 10:53 PM
#91
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From: Brooklyn, NY
Bikes: 2018 Lynskey R380 Ti | 2011 Hampsten Travelissimo Gran Paradiso Ti | 2001 De Rosa Neo Primato - Batik Del Monte, Genius | 1991 Eddy Merckx - Motorola, TSX
Here you go, but you seem to have all the answers. You do the math.
https://www.glorycycles.com/shul67gr.html
https://www.glorycycles.com/srfo20grset.html
https://www.glorycycles.com/shul67gr.html
https://www.glorycycles.com/srfo20grset.html
https://www.totalcycling.com/index.ph...urrency&id=USD
I actually saw a bear crossing the road not far from Bear Mountain. Trust me, there are bears in that area, they are very people-shy and essentially nocturnal, so you're not going to see them often. Hell, we get one raiding our own garbage here on Mt. Doom a couple of times a year.
Actually, Bear Mountain is a 1200 vertical feet, 4 mile climb from the Hudson River (9W near Iona Island) to the top, so it's really a small mountain by most definitions. This mountain vs. hill debate is rather silly in my view. At the end of the day it depends who you're chasing up the hill it that makes it hard.
Actually, Bear Mountain is a 1200 vertical feet, 4 mile climb from the Hudson River (9W near Iona Island) to the top, so it's really a small mountain by most definitions. This mountain vs. hill debate is rather silly in my view. At the end of the day it depends who you're chasing up the hill it that makes it hard.
02-13-10 | 10:57 PM
#92
Elite Fred
Joined: Aug 2005
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From: Edge City
Bikes: 2009 Spooky (cracked frame), 2006 Curtlo, 2002 Lemond (current race bike) Zurich, 1987 Serotta Colorado, 1986 Cannondale for commuting, a 1984 Cannondale on loan to my son
Did Cervelo and Cannondale pay you to stop racing their bikes?
02-13-10 | 11:10 PM
#93
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https://www.competitivecyclist.com/za...AGE=BUY_GRUPPO
https://www.coloradocyclist.com/product/kit/SSFBASG2
https://www.coloradocyclist.com/product/kit/SRABAYS2
02-13-10 | 11:12 PM
#94
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Light bike for a heavy rider.
"My new SuperSix Hi-Mod frame is red which wasnt my choice and I would prefer white or black (or the Liquigas team) color.
Oh well, when you getting a club deal at close to half off, you cant be too picky
"Let me know when you can afford the other half.
02-13-10 | 11:14 PM
#95
Ninja!
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From: Houston, Texas
That is an amazing carpet. Is it turkish?
02-13-10 | 11:36 PM
#97
stole your bike
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From: North Bergen, NJ
Bikes: Orbea Orca, Ridley Compact
Scott marketing is rather misleading on this. The RC and R1 incorporate a lighter CF than the R2, R3, the pricier RC and R1 frames are actually about 150 grams lighter than the R2/R3 bikes. Also the R2/3 have a proprietary BB design (developed in conjunction with Shimano) that may be stiffer, brings Shimano crank arms closer to the frame. You do have to do some digging to learn this. My guess is the R2 frame is 975 grams or so vs. 830 for the RC 56cm frame. Bikes don't feel different (or so I'm told), and they are all still relatively light, but there you have it. I knew this going in.
Hey, the bike crap I sold generated $1800 of revenue, the other crap I sold here over $800 (old R/C cars, etc.), so my out of pocket for this swap was <$1000, made sense to me. New/better/lighter bike with zero miles vs. older bike with 25 THOUSAND miles on the frame and its components.
I'm not including the $800 I spent on those D.A. wheels. Look boys, this stuff is like crack, once you get going, it's hard to stop. Some of you know this.
Hey, the bike crap I sold generated $1800 of revenue, the other crap I sold here over $800 (old R/C cars, etc.), so my out of pocket for this swap was <$1000, made sense to me. New/better/lighter bike with zero miles vs. older bike with 25 THOUSAND miles on the frame and its components.
I'm not including the $800 I spent on those D.A. wheels. Look boys, this stuff is like crack, once you get going, it's hard to stop. Some of you know this.
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02-13-10 | 11:50 PM
#98
VFL For Life
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From: Knoxville, TN
Bikes: Velo Volmobile
02-14-10 | 12:10 AM
#99
grilled cheesus
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Bikes: 2010 CAAD9 Custom, 06 Giant TCR C2 & 05 Specialized Hardrock Sport
im not reading thru the puke pages of this thead and i have no idea why the man has, wants, or needs a new ride. i just need to know when he will slap some PSIMET hoo on it and roll out in sub zero i am the greatest road nazi evar temps then post up all about..................so PM with the details. later.
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02-14-10 | 12:18 AM
#100
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im not reading thru the puke pages of this thead and i have no idea why the man has, wants, or needs a new ride. i just need to know when he will slap some PSIMET hoo on it and roll out in sub zero i am the greatest road nazi evar temps then post up all about..................so PM with the details. later.