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patentcad 07-16-10 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 11125064)
If I quit racing I'd save so much money it'd be scary. But then again I'd spend all my time driving back and forth to my other house so it would probably end up being a wash.

You would crash less however.

rjones28 07-16-10 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 11125189)
You would crash less however.

Well, maybe. We don't know how well he drives.

LAJ 07-16-10 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 11124126)
How do you 'suck farts'?

Illustrations, please.

Can't answer that, but as far as illustrations, I don't get my crayons back until the wife gets home.

LAJ 07-16-10 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by scotch (Post 11124177)
Do what now?


http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Urea

"Active ingredient for diesel-engine exhaust treatment AdBlue and some other SCR systems."

"As a NOx-reducing reactant in combustion exhaust streams, especially diesel."

heckler 07-16-10 03:10 PM

do we get the inside biography on gstein's young retirement? You mentioned estates and we know he has a second home up in the Adirondacks. I am putting my guess down for a real estate mogul!


PS pcad as far as people with malice and anger go I never really thought of gstein as a perpetrator. He comes across as funny and witty to me. He also is quick to mock himself, which is a trait most of this forum could use.

Of course he may be a real scathing guy in real life for all I know.

heckler 07-16-10 03:20 PM

Speaking of retirement...since April 1st I put in $637 into my 401k employer match 558 and the investment lost 1604...

for those doing the math at home that means I lost
1)my contribution
2)my employer contribution
3) $408 that was previously in there

Is anyone else opting out of contributions during this time?

I am luckily 25 and have plenty of time for this all to right itself so a -10% quarter isn't the end of me financially but 637 divided by 3 months of paychecks isn't a terribly small amount of money either.

Tulex 07-16-10 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by heckler (Post 11125435)
do we get the inside biography on gstein's young retirement? You mentioned estates and we know he has a second home up in the Adirondacks. I am putting my guess down for a real estate mogul!


PS pcad as far as people with malice and anger go I never really thought of gstein as a perpetrator. He comes across as funny and witty to me. He also is quick to mock himself, which is a trait most of this forum could use.

Of course he may be a real scathing guy in real life for all I know.

Actually, I think most everyone in this thread does just fine with that.

heckler 07-16-10 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Tulex (Post 11125501)
Actually, I think most everyone in this thread does just fine with that.

I agree which is why I like it here, and why I said forum and not thread ;)

I think some of the 33 beats others down due to insecurities. I don't think gary suffers from this.

Anyway enough of my mancrush... let us talk about coasting... silly british accents

patentcad 07-16-10 03:53 PM

Guys like gsteinb live for the competition and the sport of racing. If I was as talented as some of these guys, I'd be the same way. But I'm not. I can race, I can hang with the pack, and if I train and train and train and train I might even help the team sometimes. But I'll always be pack fodder. 10+ years ago I occasionally got in the break and got a result. But I'm slower now. I'm a 22-23 mph guy in a world of 35+ guys who can ride 25+ mph. I'm tired of banging my head against that wall, particularly when it involves getting up at 3AM and driving 125 miles or more. That winds up costing $60+ in gas, tolls, etc. And all that would be fine if it was more fun. But it's not. It has become a drag, particularly when you do all that and you have a bad day or a puncture and you get spit out. That really blows.

So it goes. Nyack Ride and some fast group rides for me, I still like doing some TTs, but I really do enjoy riding alone most of the time, long rides, lots of climbing some days, some fast pack or paceline riding mixed in.

The Schwag Procurement, Hand Wringing, BF Pissing Contests and the Posing remain the funnest part of this idiot sport. And make no mistake, it is profoundly idiotic. As I get more experienced in it (and after about 140,000 road bicycle miles, I have some time in the saddle) it's not getting less dumb. It has only gotten dumberer.

patentcad 07-16-10 03:56 PM

God help me though the Mets do suck.

Tulex 07-16-10 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 11125650)
Guys like gsteinb live for the competition and the sport of racing. If I was as talented as some of these guys, I'd be the same way. But I'm not. I can race, I can hang with the pack, and if I train and train and train and train I might even help the team sometimes. But I'll always be pack fodder. 10+ years ago I occasionally got in the break and got a result. But I'm slower now. I'm a 22-23 mph guy in a world of 35+ guys who can ride 25+ mph. I'm tired of banging my head against that wall, particularly when it involves getting up at 3AM and driving 125 miles or more. That winds up costing $60+ in gas, tolls, etc. And all that would be fine if it was more fun. But it's not. It has become a drag, particularly when you do all that and you have a bad day or a puncture and you get spit out. That really blows.

So it goes. Nyack Ride and some fast group rides for me, I still like doing some TTs, but I really do enjoy riding alone most of the time, long rides, lots of climbing some days, some fast pack or paceline riding mixed in.

The Schwag Procurement, Hand Wringing, BF Pissing Contests and the Posing remain the funnest part of this idiot sport. And make no mistake, it is profoundly idiotic. As I get more experienced in it (and after about 140,000 road bicycle miles, I have some time in the saddle) it's not getting less dumb. It has only gotten dumberer.

I don't buy that. Well, maybe you, but not everyone. I think it's the personality that dictates success, not the other way around. Yeah, I understand that some people become *******s when they become successful, but I think most successful autistics would be autistics even without success.

gsteinb 07-16-10 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Tulex (Post 11125695)
I don't buy that. Well, maybe you, but not everyone. I think it's the personality that dictates success, not the other way around. Yeah, I understand that some people become *******s when they become successful, but I think most successful autistics would be autistics even without success.

It's not really true, no. I know some guys who can put essentially no time in and show up and win anything they want. I also know some guys who race 60 times a year and are happy being middle of the pack day in and day out. For my money the Nyack ride is the scariest thing I could possibly do. Those guys are nuts and think nothing of swinging caddy corner into the oncoming lane of traffic of a 55 mph road. I'm way too old for that. You do what you like in life. pcad has always been happiest putting in big miles. The day I stop racing I'll spend my weekends up north hiking with the dog and the mrs. Of course I may race until I'm 60. Right now it's still fun despite my season getting royally effed due to injury.

patentcad 07-16-10 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Tulex (Post 11125695)
I don't buy that.

WhatEVER. I've been doing this for a VERY long time, talent is talent, training is a factor, a considerably lesser factor than genetics. Make no mistake, credit where it's due, Gary trains harder than anyone I've ever known, and his success is largely due to that, but if he had been born with my (lack of) sprinting ability, he wouldn't win races. On the other hand, even with his considerable talent, if he didn't train so hard, he'd have 1/10 of his results. It's both. But without the talent it becomes next to impossible in my view. Could I train hard enough to be a potentially effective domestique? Perhaps. Is it worth living like a monk and training like a zealot to me? Hardly. It becomes more like a job, not something I love to do.

Hey, that's my view borne out of 20 years in and around the sport. But you'll have to form your own opinion. None of that matters of course. We all do this because we love it, for one reason or another. No matter how much we snipe at each other, we do share that, Fred and Road Nazi alike. That's the Big Picture. Which so many of you are incapable of seeing. Don't worry, Uncle Pcad will show you the Way.

None of you are friggin worthy of course, but that's a whole other thread.

patentcad 07-16-10 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 11125731)
It's not really true, no. I know some guys who can put essentially no time in and show up and win anything they want. I also know some guys who race 60 times a year and are happy being middle of the pack day in and day out. For my money the Nyack ride is the scariest thing I could possibly do. Those guys are nuts and think nothing of swinging caddy corner into the oncoming lane of traffic of a 55 mph road. I'm way too old for that. You do what you like in life. pcad has always been happiest putting in big miles. The day I stop racing I'll spend my weekends up north hiking with the dog and the mrs. Of course I may race until I'm 60. Right now it's still fun despite my season getting royally effed due to injury.

Yep. To each his own. Nyack Ride doesn't scare me. It should. I've been peeled off it and thrown into a friggin ambulance.

So it goes.

mzeffex 07-16-10 04:23 PM

Good news. I found another race I can do. It's a circuit race. From what I read, that's a crit that has bigger laps? Wikipedia says 3.11+ mile laps, except this one calls itself a circuit race but has 2.1 mile laps. Whatever.

patentcad 07-16-10 05:20 PM

By the way it's not 'all good'. It never really is. That's just something people like to say after they start with 'at the end of the day'.

patentcad 07-16-10 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Imperturbable Ryuu Ichigo (Post 11126107)
hey hey hey , don't be dragging me into your fights now.

I was only trying to be extra pathetic.

datlas 07-16-10 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 11126086)
By the way it's not 'all good'. It never really is. That's just something people like to say after they start with 'at the end of the day'.

Is that after they "drill down??"

patentcad 07-16-10 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 11126114)
Is that after they "drill down??"

For the right metrics.

patentcad 07-16-10 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Imperturbable Ryuu Ichigo (Post 11126126)
Oh sure.

Go electrocute your neighbor for me.

I forgot about him. He is dead to me now. The dog fence is working and Sam is trained on it again.

Herbie53 07-16-10 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 11126086)
By the way it's not 'all good'. It never really is. That's just something people like to say after they start with 'at the end of the day'.

I used at least 3 of these at work today.... my job sux, unfortunately I'm far more talented at it than I am at cycling.


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