Addiction I
#152
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Stiff bike, stiffer than the S2, WAY stiffer than the Six13. My low back hurt a bit after 25 miles of hammering, but then my back hurts much of the time when I first ride a new bike. Then it seems to adapt and it's fine. That's odd, because it seems to be set up just like my other bike.
Rear triangle isn't nearly as vertically compliant as the Six13, but this bike is lighter and it does climb better. The Six13 was starting to feel a bit mushy to me at times. This bike feels too stiff. I'll get used to it. It really takes me a month to figure out if I like a bike.
Rear triangle isn't nearly as vertically compliant as the Six13, but this bike is lighter and it does climb better. The Six13 was starting to feel a bit mushy to me at times. This bike feels too stiff. I'll get used to it. It really takes me a month to figure out if I like a bike.
Below is my quote from 1/27/10 about how uncomfortably stiff Scotts tend to be. Should have listened to me about that as well as going with Sram. With you history of back issues, I think you should put that thing on Ebay tomorrow. That bike won't likely get easier to ride. I know of what I speak.
Did you test ride this frame? It is light but horribly harsh. That is the tradeoff with some of the really light carbon frames. You should have looked into the Giant TCR equivalent with Sram Force. Glory Cycles has CR1 frame on sale for $1300. Nice bike. This Giant is BOSS. IMO

#154
As for the quality of the frames, I have no first hand knowledge, but know there's been mixed reviews....As with any other frame.
#155
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Peloton Shelter Dog
Joined: Nov 2005
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From: Chester, NY
Bikes: 2017 Scott Foil, 2016 Scott Addict SL, 2018 Santa Cruz Blur CC MTB
Yes indeed. And it climbs like it's on steroids too. Stiffness is trait I think I can adapt to. It's mushiness that I don't like. Like I said, for me a real evaluation takes weeks of riding. I have generally never liked a new bike much on the first ride. This falls under the 'We Fear Change' category. There were things about this bike today that I really liked and differences between this and my other bikes I didn't like, but over time I find that I tend to like a new bike more and more.
That good climber thing can go a long way with me, I do a lot of climbing around here, and the uphill sections of most group rides are often the key places where you put up or get shelled.
That new Ultegra is the bomb by the way. Very impressive.
By the way, taking a bicycle out for a first ride on the Nyack Ride is like Boeing doing the first flight test of the 787 in air combat over Iran. Bad idea.
That good climber thing can go a long way with me, I do a lot of climbing around here, and the uphill sections of most group rides are often the key places where you put up or get shelled.
That new Ultegra is the bomb by the way. Very impressive.
By the way, taking a bicycle out for a first ride on the Nyack Ride is like Boeing doing the first flight test of the 787 in air combat over Iran. Bad idea.
#157
Headset-press carrier
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,137
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From: Corrales New Mexico
Bikes: Kona with Campy 8, Lynskey Ti with Rival, Bianchi pista, Raleigh Team Frame with SRAM Red, Specialized Stump Jumper, Surley Big Dummy
Pcaddy,
You really need to live and ride in any of the mountain states or out west to really feel what epic climbing is. When I lived in Vermont and did the multi-gaps I though that I knew climbing. I had to go back to square one when I got back here. Do what CDR does, cycling vacations where the hills are.
Again nice bike. It will be the A Bike, maybe with a DI2?
You really need to live and ride in any of the mountain states or out west to really feel what epic climbing is. When I lived in Vermont and did the multi-gaps I though that I knew climbing. I had to go back to square one when I got back here. Do what CDR does, cycling vacations where the hills are.
Again nice bike. It will be the A Bike, maybe with a DI2?
#158
Headset-press carrier
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From: Corrales New Mexico
Bikes: Kona with Campy 8, Lynskey Ti with Rival, Bianchi pista, Raleigh Team Frame with SRAM Red, Specialized Stump Jumper, Surley Big Dummy
Why is Subaru-monger harassing you , P? Are you ghost writing for him so we reach the 10 page pat on your back quota?
#160
Stiff bike, stiffer than the S2, WAY stiffer than the Six13. My low back hurt a bit after 25 miles of hammering, but then my back hurts much of the time when I first ride a new bike. Then it seems to adapt and it's fine. That's odd, because it seems to be set up just like my other bike.
Rear triangle isn't nearly as vertically compliant as the Six13, but this bike is lighter and it does climb better. The Six13 was starting to feel a bit mushy to me at times. This bike feels too stiff. I'll get used to it. It really takes me a month to figure out if I like a bike.
Rear triangle isn't nearly as vertically compliant as the Six13, but this bike is lighter and it does climb better. The Six13 was starting to feel a bit mushy to me at times. This bike feels too stiff. I'll get used to it. It really takes me a month to figure out if I like a bike.
#161
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,334
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From: Orange County, CA
Bikes: Road - Lynskey. Mountain - Trek Fuel EX
well done P-diddy....thats a damn fine backup bike
#162
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Peloton Shelter Dog
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 90,508
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From: Chester, NY
Bikes: 2017 Scott Foil, 2016 Scott Addict SL, 2018 Santa Cruz Blur CC MTB
Pcaddy,
You really need to live and ride in any of the mountain states or out west to really feel what epic climbing is. When I lived in Vermont and did the multi-gaps I though that I knew climbing. I had to go back to square one when I got back here. Do what CDR does, cycling vacations where the hills are.
Again nice bike. It will be the A Bike, maybe with a DI2?
You really need to live and ride in any of the mountain states or out west to really feel what epic climbing is. When I lived in Vermont and did the multi-gaps I though that I knew climbing. I had to go back to square one when I got back here. Do what CDR does, cycling vacations where the hills are.
Again nice bike. It will be the A Bike, maybe with a DI2?
The Addict won't displace the S2. S2 is a better bike.
#163
Snail-paced new boy
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: Cheshire, England
Bikes: Colnago Extreme Power, Ribble Winter
Pcad, my 58cm S2 Frame was 1120g...
#165
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Peloton Shelter Dog
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From: Chester, NY
Bikes: 2017 Scott Foil, 2016 Scott Addict SL, 2018 Santa Cruz Blur CC MTB
I never crashed in Greece. I crashed between Potsdam and Berlin. And that road is flat as a pancake. To this day I think it's quite possible I was rear ended on my bicycle by a car. I'll never know, I have no memory of the incident thanks to being knocked cold and sustaining a concussion. The mountains in Greece were impressive, 2000 vertical foot/6+ mile passes.


#166
Still can't climb
Joined: Sep 2006
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From: Limey in Taiwan
is there some kind of test for stiffness like stand here and push there kind of thing. i keep hearing people say this is more stiff than that and i really can't tell the difference on my 2 road bikes.
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#168
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Peloton Shelter Dog
Joined: Nov 2005
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From: Chester, NY
Bikes: 2017 Scott Foil, 2016 Scott Addict SL, 2018 Santa Cruz Blur CC MTB
This Addict is the stiffest frame I've ridden. You can feel it the instant things tilt uphill. Amazing climber.
#169
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Peloton Shelter Dog
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From: Chester, NY
Bikes: 2017 Scott Foil, 2016 Scott Addict SL, 2018 Santa Cruz Blur CC MTB
#171
Has coddling tendencies.
Joined: Jul 2005
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From: Topanga Canyon
Bikes: 2008 Blue RC8 w/ '09 Rival
What's all this then?*
* my first reply to this thread.
* my first reply to this thread.
#172
Still can't climb
Joined: Sep 2006
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From: Limey in Taiwan
i'm a johnny-come-lately to this thread too. apparently pcad bought a bike. can you believe it?
oh and greece is about to go belly up.
oh and greece is about to go belly up.
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#174
Still can't climb
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From: Limey in Taiwan
you really give him the benefit of the doubt, huh? take a look at his facial expression. it says "holy crap. how did everyone get to far ahead?"
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#175
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From: Elkridge, MD
Bikes: 2012 Guru Praemio R - 2001 Jamis Ventura - 1990 Specialized Hard Rock (with original tires) - 2012 Trek Cobias
Beautiful.






