There were a couple ponds and lakes by my old house in New Jersey.

Define: "car guy"

With all due respect, don't make one of us fly down to Knox and see to it that you get layed.

wut

One in our midst identifies himself as a "car guy" and I seek meaning for the description.

I told you but I dropped my connection the moment I hit Post Quick Reply, causing me to lose everything.

It's basically navigating through a slot canyon of varying depths and lengths. They can drop anywhere from 100 to 1000 feet. They are usually very narrow, down to 15' in places. And the canyon walls tower straight above you for hundreds of feet. So once you make the first drop you are in it to win it.

This was the first 80' drop of about 7 at the beginning of last season:



You drop down once, hike for a while, come to another drop, setup the rappel, drop down, pull your rope down, and continue. That trip had A LOT of water in it and it was snow melt so we were rocking wetsuits.



This was the second drop and where I dropped the camera in the water:

Guy = a male human being.

Car = a motorized conveyance.

If it starts raining heavily whilst you are in there you are so screwed. more dangerous than bike racing.

Not at all, the canyons are generally so narrow you can easily chimney upwards to the top. Utah is famous for having logjams suspended 40 feet in the air which makes for interesting travel underneath.

There are usually indicators that a flood is approaching and _usually_ ways to get to high enough ground for safety. Last season a group of canyoneers go washed over an 80' drop in a flash flood. I think all but 1 survived. Pretty sad.

During my work nights it seems.


I dunno VG is kinda tiny, I bet she's getting fast.

A good portion of my childhood was living in the sticks. To me hiking is just going for a walk.

Oh hai.

i like makel's tweets better than VV's

Yep and those little spikey things hurt!

Oh what a day on the bike yesterday was. I am drained. Gonna take it easy today. Got 90miles in yesterday. 30miles of hill repeats trying to chase my cat2 friend. 45miles of group ride, and 15 miles riding to, and from the group ride. It was a wonderful day on the bike, and I am starting establish some sweet tan lines for the year. Now it's time to watch the Giro.

I just looked at your ride. Impressive!

I was all over That Ridley at cc until I saw it was only xxs xs and xl. No med meant no tt rig for ruokie

[Canyoneering looks even dumber than road cycling.]


You need muscle to defy gravity. Tiny alone doesn't cut it.

How do you explain this:

Super drugs that you can't pick up at your local gym yet.

Maybe so, but traditionally climbers are usually skinnier riders is what I was getting at. It's simple physics, defying VV's failed logic.

I know, as someone who is skinny/light it is dull fighting flat windy plains so I compensate with a heavy bike. It is awful warm and muggy here today but I may go rack up 5K of elevation doing hill repeats. The allergy season has been so awful I have hardly ridden in weeks.

That stinks. I was kinda in the same boat due to tendinitis. It made me fat. I was down to 151lbs the day the tendinitis started. Then I had to back off my training for the tendinitis to dissipate for 3 weeks. Next thing I knew I was 158lbs. 153lbs today, finally getting closer to my 148lbs goal race weight. It's so much easier to climb the lighter I get.

Thanks. If weather permits this Saturday's ride is going to hurt. It is a charity ride but I'm sure it is going to be painful. It is 62 miles with around 6,000 miles of climbing and most of the climbs are the nice steep ones like in the ride I did yesterday. It really is a lot of fun pulling 215 pounds up those hills over and over and over and over and over and ov.......