View Poll Results: Is an opposite sex riding partner ok if only one of you is married?
Yes



75
59.06%
No



30
23.62%
Depends - Please explain.



22
17.32%
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This thread needs a female touch
#151
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#152
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Reading this thread (besides give me a good belly laugh) makes me realize just how lucky I am... Trust is just the default in our relationship, Do I think she looks at other men, absolutely! And why shouldn't she? Does she think I "size" other women, especially when I ride? Yup! Do I trust her to be faithful, and she me? Yup... Does not matter where you get your appetite from as long as you eat at home
Some people need to chill, are all cyclists this sexually repressed? Or just the ones that chat on the internet?
Funny thing is now on my next group ride I am going to wonder who is there on the prowl
Some people need to chill, are all cyclists this sexually repressed? Or just the ones that chat on the internet?

Funny thing is now on my next group ride I am going to wonder who is there on the prowl
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#154
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#156
Reading this thread (besides give me a good belly laugh) makes me realize just how lucky I am... Trust is just the default in our relationship, Do I think she looks at other men, absolutely! And why shouldn't she? Does she think I "size" other women, especially when I ride? Yup! Do I trust her to be faithful, and she me? Yup... Does not matter where you get your appetite from as long as you eat at home
Some people need to chill, are all cyclists this sexually repressed? Or just the ones that chat on the internet?
Funny thing is now on my next group ride I am going to wonder who is there on the prowl
Some people need to chill, are all cyclists this sexually repressed? Or just the ones that chat on the internet?

Funny thing is now on my next group ride I am going to wonder who is there on the prowl

That's why I ask...how slow the OP is. Me and my girl both wondered why he'd be cruising with her, I'm positive I'd drope all the hot chicks in our group...cuz I do!
#157
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My best cycling friend is a gal.
My wife refers to her as my "bicycle girlfriend."
Some of the arguments on here for why it can't/shouldn't be done are not too philosophically removed from segregating sexes, dressing women in burkas, and only interacting with chaperones for fear that one thing might lead to another, or a man might not be able to control his lascivious thinking, or there may be the appearance of impropriety, or trust issues will go into meltdown.
If you know yourself well enough to know that you can't interact with the opposite sex on a peer - nonsexual basis, then keep yourself out of those situations. Should probably take a good hard look at your workplace too since you may end up working one-on-one with a person of the opposite sex.
However, I like to live with the happy illusion that men and women can be cycling partners and friends, and that as rational human beings everyone can be okay with that.
My wife refers to her as my "bicycle girlfriend."
Some of the arguments on here for why it can't/shouldn't be done are not too philosophically removed from segregating sexes, dressing women in burkas, and only interacting with chaperones for fear that one thing might lead to another, or a man might not be able to control his lascivious thinking, or there may be the appearance of impropriety, or trust issues will go into meltdown.
If you know yourself well enough to know that you can't interact with the opposite sex on a peer - nonsexual basis, then keep yourself out of those situations. Should probably take a good hard look at your workplace too since you may end up working one-on-one with a person of the opposite sex.
However, I like to live with the happy illusion that men and women can be cycling partners and friends, and that as rational human beings everyone can be okay with that.
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#159
My best cycling friend is a gal.
My wife refers to her as my "bicycle girlfriend."
Some of the arguments on here for why it can't/shouldn't be done are not too philosophically removed from segregating sexes, dressing women in burkas, and only interacting with chaperones for fear that one thing might lead to another, or a man might not be able to control his lascivious thinking, or there may be the appearance of impropriety, or trust issues will go into meltdown.
If you know yourself well enough to know that you can't interact with the opposite sex on a peer - nonsexual basis, then keep yourself out of those situations. Should probably take a good hard look at your workplace too since you may end up working one-on-one with a person of the opposite sex.
However, I like to live with the happy illusion that men and women can be cycling partners and friends, and that as rational human beings everyone can be okay with that.
My wife refers to her as my "bicycle girlfriend."
Some of the arguments on here for why it can't/shouldn't be done are not too philosophically removed from segregating sexes, dressing women in burkas, and only interacting with chaperones for fear that one thing might lead to another, or a man might not be able to control his lascivious thinking, or there may be the appearance of impropriety, or trust issues will go into meltdown.
If you know yourself well enough to know that you can't interact with the opposite sex on a peer - nonsexual basis, then keep yourself out of those situations. Should probably take a good hard look at your workplace too since you may end up working one-on-one with a person of the opposite sex.
However, I like to live with the happy illusion that men and women can be cycling partners and friends, and that as rational human beings everyone can be okay with that.
#161
My best cycling friend is a gal.
My wife refers to her as my "bicycle girlfriend."
Some of the arguments on here for why it can't/shouldn't be done are not too philosophically removed from segregating sexes, dressing women in burkas, and only interacting with chaperones for fear that one thing might lead to another, or a man might not be able to control his lascivious thinking, or there may be the appearance of impropriety, or trust issues will go into meltdown.
If you know yourself well enough to know that you can't interact with the opposite sex on a peer - nonsexual basis, then keep yourself out of those situations. Should probably take a good hard look at your workplace too since you may end up working one-on-one with a person of the opposite sex.
However, I like to live with the happy illusion that men and women can be cycling partners and friends, and that as rational human beings everyone can be okay with that.
My wife refers to her as my "bicycle girlfriend."
Some of the arguments on here for why it can't/shouldn't be done are not too philosophically removed from segregating sexes, dressing women in burkas, and only interacting with chaperones for fear that one thing might lead to another, or a man might not be able to control his lascivious thinking, or there may be the appearance of impropriety, or trust issues will go into meltdown.
If you know yourself well enough to know that you can't interact with the opposite sex on a peer - nonsexual basis, then keep yourself out of those situations. Should probably take a good hard look at your workplace too since you may end up working one-on-one with a person of the opposite sex.
However, I like to live with the happy illusion that men and women can be cycling partners and friends, and that as rational human beings everyone can be okay with that.
#163
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Followed this thread for a bit, find it pretty funny! As a retired sailor and a happily married man after 22 years I can tell you most men are dogs! I understand the whole trust thing but women can get pretty jealous and us men too. My take on it is if there is a group not an issue if you have a female riding partner and you find yourself even the slightest bit attracted then your best bet is to not ride with her. Don't set yourself up for failure! Just don't put yourself in a situation where there is the slightest chance of things going south. Don't let the ego get in the way and think it is cool to be riding around with a hot chick. If that is the case get your wife out there riding! Anywho you tread potentially deadly ground setting yourself up! Ride with the hot chica on the group rides!
#164
Abstractform20,
I think you've mischaracterized what I wrote. And perhaps I didn't make myself clear at first.
The point was not that people would become sexually involved on a ride. That's stupid. The point was that continued association with a married person could give the appearance that they share more than just biking. And also implied was the possiblilty for such a relationship to develop in ways that would not be appropriate. It happens.
There is a difference between evil and the appearance of evil. It is not evil to ride with a married woman, nor to be alone with her. But if continued, it could give the appearance of impropriety.
For instance, if I am seen outside a strip club late at night, it gives the appearance that I've either been there, or am about to. So I would avoid the appearance of evil by avoiding everything about the club. Don't be there or even close to there.
I think you've mischaracterized what I wrote. And perhaps I didn't make myself clear at first.
The point was not that people would become sexually involved on a ride. That's stupid. The point was that continued association with a married person could give the appearance that they share more than just biking. And also implied was the possiblilty for such a relationship to develop in ways that would not be appropriate. It happens.
There is a difference between evil and the appearance of evil. It is not evil to ride with a married woman, nor to be alone with her. But if continued, it could give the appearance of impropriety.
For instance, if I am seen outside a strip club late at night, it gives the appearance that I've either been there, or am about to. So I would avoid the appearance of evil by avoiding everything about the club. Don't be there or even close to there.
interesting, especially if you are a christian.
the bible has stories of jesus talking with women, even a woman by a well...from a different click, yo.
then again, the story of king david starts with a dude that is getting off by peeping at a married woman as she bathes, then he has her husband killed, and then he pumps her. all he had to do was apologize to the god he believed in.
living in fear of perception is ridiculous.
#165
i have an ass-wetting/mind-blowing statement.
as a young man i am still able to prevent myself from trying to inseminate (i.e., skeet skeet skeet)
all attractive women i have contact with.
do any of you work with women?
also: sexuality is not bad. having "it" is not bad either.
if having sex requires that you break a contract, an act of deception, or if it involves non-consent, or if it is done with the intent to cause harm, then it is wrong.
now i know a lot of you 6' 130lb studs, and 5'6" 190lb hunk-muffins are just absolutely pleasing to the female eye, there is also a chance that the hot collegiate in the group ride is actually not attracted to your old man funk that permeates the peloton of soccer dads with 33% body fat.
its crazy. i know.
sometimes people can share a common form of enjoyment.
another thing: men are not dogs or pigs if they want to have a lot of sex or orgasms. such men are actually just men.
maybe sex is natural. but then again, producing billions of baby-makers which actually become more defective the longer they stay inside, and attack each other viciously if they travel inside the egg-zone, and also producing lemmeskeet hormones during a significant portion of their lives, just maybe it may indicate that just about every living thing has some innate burning desire for the propagation of the species. the method of propagation might play tricks on us, but it might just be not such a bad thing.
as a young man i am still able to prevent myself from trying to inseminate (i.e., skeet skeet skeet)
all attractive women i have contact with.
do any of you work with women?
also: sexuality is not bad. having "it" is not bad either.
if having sex requires that you break a contract, an act of deception, or if it involves non-consent, or if it is done with the intent to cause harm, then it is wrong.
now i know a lot of you 6' 130lb studs, and 5'6" 190lb hunk-muffins are just absolutely pleasing to the female eye, there is also a chance that the hot collegiate in the group ride is actually not attracted to your old man funk that permeates the peloton of soccer dads with 33% body fat.
its crazy. i know.
sometimes people can share a common form of enjoyment.
another thing: men are not dogs or pigs if they want to have a lot of sex or orgasms. such men are actually just men.
maybe sex is natural. but then again, producing billions of baby-makers which actually become more defective the longer they stay inside, and attack each other viciously if they travel inside the egg-zone, and also producing lemmeskeet hormones during a significant portion of their lives, just maybe it may indicate that just about every living thing has some innate burning desire for the propagation of the species. the method of propagation might play tricks on us, but it might just be not such a bad thing.
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....and this thread goes into the toilet in 3............2........
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so people should avoid actions that may be perceived as evil.
interesting, especially if you are a christian.
the bible has stories of jesus talking with women, even a woman by a well...from a different click, yo.
then again, the story of king david starts with a dude that is getting off by peeping at a married woman as she bathes, then he has her husband killed, and then he pumps her. all he had to do was apologize to the god he believed in.
living in fear of perception is ridiculous.
interesting, especially if you are a christian.
the bible has stories of jesus talking with women, even a woman by a well...from a different click, yo.
then again, the story of king david starts with a dude that is getting off by peeping at a married woman as she bathes, then he has her husband killed, and then he pumps her. all he had to do was apologize to the god he believed in.
living in fear of perception is ridiculous.
It's not like you say above, but I'm not going to get into all this in this forum. I believe there is a politics and religion forum for that.
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Interesting discussion. Everything from Heff to Heyzuse.
I like women. I like everything about them. I am physically attracted to them. I enjoy their company. In 28 years of marriage, I have had plenty of opportunity to stray, at work, on the road, cycling, shopping, dining, wherever.
Do I have and recognize genetic instinct? Of course. I would be lying if I said I didn't. Do I act on it? No. I like my life and love my wife and have enough self-control to squash acting on an instinct.
In riding with several women athletes, sure there are some that initially spark that instinct but that is where it stops. That simple. I certainly don't ride with them hoping I can tap one and don't avoid them in fear of them or myself. I like where I am at and govern myself accordingly.
I like women. I like everything about them. I am physically attracted to them. I enjoy their company. In 28 years of marriage, I have had plenty of opportunity to stray, at work, on the road, cycling, shopping, dining, wherever.
Do I have and recognize genetic instinct? Of course. I would be lying if I said I didn't. Do I act on it? No. I like my life and love my wife and have enough self-control to squash acting on an instinct.
In riding with several women athletes, sure there are some that initially spark that instinct but that is where it stops. That simple. I certainly don't ride with them hoping I can tap one and don't avoid them in fear of them or myself. I like where I am at and govern myself accordingly.
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