Can't ride today. Too much work. Also, if I ride I'll get hungry. Can't eat today.

Fasting for the plumbing inspection?

Keeping the good thoughts going your way LowCel.

I've got an earworm this morning... and my first thought was to share it with my best friends in the whole world.

You're welcome.

https://www.bikeforums.net/www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrz5Fg7BYlA

This is actually a quite excellent analysis, Pcud. I'm qualified to say so because the early part of my career was as a human performance engineer, focused on optimizing the user interface for in-house system development projects. I can't even begin to detail the multi-level battles we had with the programming staff on a constant basis. I don't even know where to start. We just never could get management to understand the simple but basic concept that if they spent a little extra up front in development by improving usability of the system, they could easily save 10 times as much on the back end in user performance. Keeping the users satisfied and productive is crucial.

And you're right, Pcud, it's not hard to accomplish at all. Never was.

It's refreshing to see somebody finally gets it.

Now, from where did you copy that analysis?

I got it too. Pat on back please.

I got nothing.

Didn't stick. I've got Copland in my ear today. He's hard to dislodge. Not that I'm trying to dislodge him.

This (not you, Billy) could have been cut from AAPL's marketing propaganda. There are CL types, and there are GUI types. Simplifying technology often comes at the expense of scalability and modification, which is one reason APPL is so profitable. They just churn out more stuff the public thinks they need in a different color, size, or shape. I personally will cling to my desktop PC (it is a beast) for the simple reason I can crack it open, repair it, upgrade it, without taking the whole thing in for an exchange or risk it becoming a relic in the museum of old devices.

I give Pcad a hard time about his blind faith based on past history because what was 15 years ago will not be what today is 15 years from now. AAPL may marginalize the techie and relegate them to the workbench, but coming from someone who operates a data center and swims laps in this digital pool on a daily basis, this is not my experience.

Nothing I can do when my daughter's iPhone or iPad breaks. It requires a phone call or a trip to the AAPL store. When my integrated vid card started dying, I cracked my case, bought a new card, installed it and all for $25 and an hour of my time. That includes drive time to the Nerd Store.

Are you really comparing the serviceability of a dektop PC to the serviceability of an iPhone or iPad???

Excuse the pun, but how about comparing Apples to Apples. If my Android phone breaks, I don't expect that I'll be able to crack it open and repair it.

My favorite was when people were comparing Jobs to Ford.

This thread could use some fanfare.

Laugh it up, fuzzball. When AAPL dumbs down the general public, it will be the guys at the workbenches in back that save your asses.

In case you missed the past 25+ years, Apple's products were never built to cracked.

Apple doesn't marginalize these professionals, they simply have company attitude that has the tech side balanced with the design side in a way that produces superior products. Then the rest of the world copies them, and everybody thinks this great user experience happened by accident or that it always existed. It didn't, Apple developed it.

Then I must be some kind of super-genius for upgrading the processor, adding RAM, adding additional Firewire and USB ports, and adding 2 additional hard drives into my old desktop Mac.

Can I be Pope Jr., Mr Pcad?

In some cases you can crack them open and do things. I'm guessing there are similar options for your Android phone. Of the 4 iPhones of various gens we've had in our house, only one had issues, due to rough treatment and the battery going bad. So we ordered parts and Mr. TS swapped out the battery and back plate himself without much hassle.

I managed to break one of the USB ports in my MacBook. (dropped it on the port side with something plugged in) To fix it, I have the option of replacing the logic board myself.

They're not as modular as a PC, but it's not like they're magically sealed up devices with no way to work on them.

Some of them are. As they go thinner and lighter this is more the trend. The MBA was deemed the least repairable lappy by some computer parts/repair site.

You don't get enough credit here.

Surely that's not limited to only apple products, as things get ever more teeny, the level of difficulty will undoubtedly go up. Anyhoo. I'm just saying they all have points of entry. Even the MBA.
https://www.ifixit.com/Device/MacBook_Air_11%22_Mid_2012

That was my "apples to apples" point. RTDub was comparing repairing his desktop PC to repairing an iPhone or iPad. That cracks me up.

A-freakin-men!

It's a battle to get management to understand that concept. Coming into a project after the developers have "designed" the system is a time-wasting, frustrating experience.

I have Cage's 4'33 stuck in my head.