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Old 04-16-14, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by RollCNY
That's a different question. If you are in someone's draft, you will almost always be faster than them, and when you pop out you will usually sling shot around pretty easily, but then slow down. If you want to hold your position behind someone slower, it is the same as being in a paceline: sit up or stick a knee out. It won't take a large change in surface area to let you modulate behind. Don't hit your brakes, just brake with air. Works very easy.
I don't want to be behind them if I don't know them. I'd be ok with it if I "know" them as in I've been riding behind them for 5 miles and can see they know what they are doing. Or if I literally know them and know they are rational riders. But if they are strangers, I don't want to be any closer than maybe 2 bike lengths if possible. At the Palm Springs century, people did all kinds of things that seemed very squirrely to me and I don't want to mess with that kind of thing on a long fast descent.

Except for a few very select people, I do not draft anyone going up a hill. I need a lot of confidence in someone to do that. But you should also realize that I ride with newer riders for the most part, that's just who is in the beginner/intermediate group I ride with- you probably ride with a way different type than I do. I'm not complaining about my group, these are really nice people and I like them, but facts are facts. Things start to fall apart for some of my friends near the top of a hill, they slow down or are struggling to breathe and their attention wanders. I prefer to just be by myself near the top or with someone I know will remain strong and focused near the top. We do a lot of very long climbs, that's just what it is like where I ride. Seven or ten or twenty mile climbs, lots of people lose form near the top and start to do weird things like suddenly slowing down or weaving side to side. Sometimes also people overreact to things on the descent, swerving around cracked pavement or things like that, which would be ok if you were by yourself but is dicey in a group.

I have a totally different approach to things when I'm riding with experienced people. I find them very predictable and can ride in close proximity quite comfortably and can feel fine drafting off of those people up or down hill. But that's not necessarily who I will be surrounded with during the century ride.

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Originally Posted by Heathpack
I don't want to be behind them if I don't know them. I'd be ok with it if I "know" them as in I've been riding behind them for 5 miles and can see they know what they are doing. Or if I literally know them and know they are rational riders. But if they are strangers, I don't want to be any closer than maybe 2 bike lengths if possible. At the Palm Springs century, people did all kinds of things that seemed very squirrely to me and I don't want to mess with that kind of thing on a long fast descent.

Except for a few very select people, I do not draft anyone going up a hill. I need a lot of confidence in someone to do that. But you should also realize that I ride with newer riders for the most part, that's just who is in the beginner/intermediate group I ride with- you probably ride with a way different type than I do. I'm not complaining about my group, these are really nice people and I like them, but facts are facts. Things start to fall apart for some of my friends near the top of a hill, they slow down or are struggling to breathe and their attention wanders. I prefer to just be by myself near the top or with someone I know will remain strong and focused near the top. We do a lot of very long climbs, that's just what it is like where I ride. Seven or ten or twenty mile climbs, lots of people lose form near the top and start to do weird things like suddenly slowing down or weaving side to side. Sometimes also people overreact to things on the descent, swerving around cracked pavement or things like that, which would be ok if you were by yourself but is dicey in a group.

I have a totally different approach to things when I'm riding with experienced people. I find them very predictable and can ride in close proximity quite comfortably and can feel fine drafting off of those people up or down hill. But that's not necessarily who I will be surrounded with during the century ride.

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How do you find the time of day to type all of this?
Lol, my day is constructed like this. Something needs to happen. My people get it all set up for me. Then they call me. I have multiple 15 min gaps of time all day. Right now I have a dog under anesthesia in the MRI, my people are on that. And an appointment ready to be seen, my other people just paged me that they are ready for that. I will be gone for 20 minutes and then have another little gap.

That's the nature of my job. I will be in surgery later on and will go dark for a few hours then.

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2 hours of cold feet and cold headwind. What happened to it's spring? Bleh
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Blowout in the 2nd fix-a-flat thread. Seems apt.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Lol, my day is constructed like this. Something needs to happen. My people get it all set up for me. Then they call me. I have multiple 15 min gaps of time all day. Right now I have a dog under anesthesia in the MRI, my people are on that. And an appointment ready to be seen, my other people just paged me that they are ready for that. I will be gone for 20 minutes and then have another little gap.

That's the nature of my job. I will be in surgery later on and will go dark for a few hours then.

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Well H that answers my question. Still don't let chit chatting with this band of bozos throw you off your game!
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Originally Posted by rjones28
Blowout in the 2nd fix-a-flat thread. Seems apt.
Homeboy is cruisin' for a timeout, though I don't disagree with him.
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Old 04-16-14, 01:26 PM
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As for gadabout, I'd be just as pissed as he, if I was paying $12
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Today, I received my first and only free warning that I was violating the dress code. I assumed that at some point during my stint at this company I would have a talk about what I was wearing because I'm not your typical navy polo shirt and khaki pants wearing employee. I like to dress with panache. As I say, I was expecting to have a conversation but I didn't think it would take place on the very second day we got into the actual new store and started setting up.

What happened is that girl who was trying to be friends with me at the other location decided- as I anticipated she might- to become a stickler for rules. I was wearing a navy tank top, a pair of khaki walking shorts, a gray cotton sweater partially unbuttoned to show the required navy top, a strand of pearls, and my tiger striped Vans- classy but still appropriate for hanging peg-hooks and shelves. So this chick came up to me and said "Did anyone say anything to you about your shorts?" I'm thinking like what? Did they compliment me? Cuz yesterday a different supervisor told me I looked "hot" in the tie I was wearing. I said "No." She said "Are we allowed to wear shorts?" I'm wondering why the hell she's asking me. I said "I think they said in orientation that they were fine but I wouldn't swear to it."

All day long I saw all kinds of management. I also saw way more of my colleagues' underwear and hip tattoos than I ever wanted to. Finally, a few hours before we go home an assistant manager and not even the one who's going to really be mine, came over and said "Did anyone say anything to you about your shorts?" Well, you're the second person to ask me that, I'm thinking so does that mean "yes"? He said "Did anyone tell you that we can't wear shorts?" "No," I said. "Well, you can't. Wear shorts. We can't wear shorts." I said "Oh. Okay." He said "This is your one freebie. Next time we have to send you home." We were told by the manager that we should keep a change of clothes in the car if we had a question about what we were wearing so that doesn't ring true. I'm going to get these reqs in writing because, as LoP says, I'm going to want to try some crazy sh*t clotheswise and I don't want to get fired for something dumb like wearing shorts instead of the allowable capris. But what a pain in the ass that chick was. And it figures.
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Well, my supervisor's quick action yesterday may have helped stem an epidemic of shorts wearing. I talked to a lot of people about the dress code today. Some of the conversations I initiated and some started when people came up to me and said "You were wearing shorts yesterday and..." Turns out that everyone including the guys saw me and thought "Yes! Shorts! We can wear shorts!" and I had to be the one to say that sadly "no" shorts are not an option. Many many people will avoid being sent home for a dress code violation because I was the first dumbass to show up in shorts. Bully for me, huh? But why? Why am I always the first dumbass to do something? Why am I an outlier?

Interestingly enough "skorts" are allowed if they don't end less than 3" above the knee and skirts are also fine if the same length requirement is met. (Someone had told me skirts were okay but they had to be to the ankle. I thought "Yeah? I can do that. White button-down shirt and an ankle-length skirt and... a bustle." Not really to the bustle but I bet the rest of the outfit would be great for selling shotguns and rifles.)
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I think that some of the guys that work there should fight the power and wear a man skirt or kilt.
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My wife, a nurse, always said working with a bunch of women was a special kind of hell.
I've worked with all guys and I've worked with mostly women and I'd prefer the former. You need a certain amount of testosterone in the air to cut all the estrogen that's flying around. I've seen/heard men call each other all kinds of potentially offensive things that were parried with "Yeah, but you're a blank so who cares what you think?" followed by laughter. I once saw two women, who both drove cars plastered with stickers about tolerance and the Goddess, refuse to speak to each other for weeks- even though they shared supervisory duties- and nearly come to blows in a meeting because one of them called the other the "c" word and the other didn't take it, as it was allegedly intended, to mean "a strong woman". ("You don't understand! That's a good thing! We've reclaimed that word!" Maybe not so much.)

We had five women all hanging peg-hooks in absolute silence. Meanwhile, one aisle over, the same number of guys was talking about shows you watch that you never intended to which led to a conversation about SNL and Betty White. (My boss said "The boys are all so chatty." I thought "Yeah. I wish I were over there instead of this zone of silence.") I gave one of the guys a hard time about it later too. "Now, do you appreciate Betty White as an actress or is this a 'Harold and Maude' thing?" Of course, he had no idea what I was talking about.
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Ramona, why do you need to test the elastic limit of the Walmart dress code? Don't look at it from the employee/Company "yoke of oppression" side, but from the customer/employee "does that person work here, or did Loves Howell overlap colors?" side. Few things are as annoying as having to guess whether someone works somewhere, or being a customer asked by another customer if you work there. I have gotten that enough to know how annoying it is (apparently wearing a tie in any sort of store anywhere is a sign that you work there).

Your customers are all little lost sheep, and they need a Bopeep. Be their Bopeep, Ramona.
I don't know why! Like I said in an earlier post that was later than yours, I'm nearly always the outlier, the first dumbass to try something, and I don't get it either. I am seriously considering the tie thing. Not because that supervisor said I looked hot in one but because I like them and, yeah, it does tend to confer authority and cause customers to feel comfortable in my on-site employment and ability to answer questions.
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Originally Posted by truckstop
it sounded less to me like ramona was testing boundaries and more like the rules are just kind of vague.
They were vague indeed. However, I had them print me out a copy today of the official dress code including what pants and pant materials are allowed, etc so we won't run into this again.
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i hate working with all women teams. meeeeooooowwwwww!

i like wearing shorts.
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What's for lunch @coasting?
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in case any of you skinnies are trying to gain weight, here is my advice. don't try to eat large amounts of food. just eat more often, preferably all the time. have a sandwich here, a cookie there, a fruit here and ooops...where did i put my bag of chips?
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Originally Posted by rjones28
What's for lunch @coasting?

lunch today is 4 bananas and and oats with brown sugar and raisins.


almost forgot...the handful of cashew nuts. i love nuts.


oh andsome kimchi with rice left over from yesterday.
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Originally Posted by coasting
lunch today is 4 bananas and and oats with brown sugar and raisins.


almost forgot...the handful of cashew nuts. i love nuts.


oh andsome kimchi with rice left over from yesterday.
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too much?
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All of 20 miles.
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All of 20 miles.
on the road?
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Originally Posted by coasting
too much?
Depends
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