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It is unfortunate that cycling seems to gather so many ass wipes together. Why is that or is it an inaccurate and jaundiced view of the population on my part. It's so easy to be friendly and soooo much more satisfying.
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They canceled the only organized ride I was planning on participating in this year the MN Major: River to River Ride so Saturday I decided (last minute) to ride it solo. I altered the route slightly to just leave from my home instead of the apple orchard it normally leaves from. Around the 50 mile mark I started to think I wrote my cue sheet down wrong so I turned around and rode back to connect with where my route was heading. Turns out my turn was about 5 miles ahead of where I gave up on it. So, my ride got cut short by 10-15 miles, but with the additional miles caused by leaving from home I still kept it over 100k (70.8 miles).
I was out of Skratch Labs so I picked up a Gatorade and cut it 50/50 with water. That stuff is still way to sweet even diluted down that much. I also didn't have anything on hand to munch on while I was riding so using knowledge gleaned from Addiction @Heathpack) I picked up a package of figgies to munch along the way. I still probably should have stopped for lunch in Afton before the 3 "big" "climbs" because my legs were about toast by the time I got done with them. Luckily it's just 15 miles or so from that point back home so no big deal.
My Garmin said 4600 feet of climbing and Strava tells me 2900 feet. I don't know which to believe, but I thought it was a lot of climbing until I saw the rides being posted by people I follow on Strava. One guy I ride with did a 8 person group ride in Western WI that consisted of 4k feet of climbing over 73 miles, which is comparable to what I did except they did it at 4mph faster than me... Must be nice to have people to draft off of! Then of course @Heathpack posted her ride. Show off!
Was a good ride. I'll have to do it again and keep going for the correct turn off point at the 50 mile mark. Maybe save something in the tank so I can tack on a few miles and make it a century ride.
I was out of Skratch Labs so I picked up a Gatorade and cut it 50/50 with water. That stuff is still way to sweet even diluted down that much. I also didn't have anything on hand to munch on while I was riding so using knowledge gleaned from Addiction @Heathpack) I picked up a package of figgies to munch along the way. I still probably should have stopped for lunch in Afton before the 3 "big" "climbs" because my legs were about toast by the time I got done with them. Luckily it's just 15 miles or so from that point back home so no big deal.
My Garmin said 4600 feet of climbing and Strava tells me 2900 feet. I don't know which to believe, but I thought it was a lot of climbing until I saw the rides being posted by people I follow on Strava. One guy I ride with did a 8 person group ride in Western WI that consisted of 4k feet of climbing over 73 miles, which is comparable to what I did except they did it at 4mph faster than me... Must be nice to have people to draft off of! Then of course @Heathpack posted her ride. Show off!
Was a good ride. I'll have to do it again and keep going for the correct turn off point at the 50 mile mark. Maybe save something in the tank so I can tack on a few miles and make it a century ride.
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My very blond daughter just told me this one....
" two blonds were driving to Disneyland. They came upon a sign that said.........."Disneyland Left".
They started crying and turned around and went home".
" two blonds were driving to Disneyland. They came upon a sign that said.........."Disneyland Left".
They started crying and turned around and went home".
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I used to love feeding other people's kids beets for the same reason but I'm evil.
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I can see it, diseased and ugly, dripping blood as the saw goes through the final mm of cortical bone, a pink mist and crack, complete, now being lifted out and placed in a steel bowel, my pain transferred to a bowl and on it's way to the lab. Free at last, free at last....
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I have a theory, a couple of them really, but they're not flattering to most. I'm going to exercise my feeble ability to keep my antagonistic theories to my damn self.
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65 miles today. Feeling good all around.
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I don't get Gatorades often, but when I do I get the ones that are kind of cloudy - not they typical clear and brightly colored. The Cloudy-ish ones seem to be less sticky-sweet.
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It is?
I saw a sign for a one mile fun run/walk along the road today. You could come decimate the field.
PR'd the 5k race this morning. 4th in age group.
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PR'd the 5k race this morning. 4th in age group.
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...it's the testosterone. I've spoken with lady racers here and they are, for the most part, quite lovable.
OTOH, I've been in enough fire department locker rooms to recognize the symptoms of testosterone poisoning.
OTOH, I've been in enough fire department locker rooms to recognize the symptoms of testosterone poisoning.
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...I bet that hip is the only snarky bone in your body.
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Maybe we can do a swap, I happen to have a majority interest in this famous bridge in Brooklyn. You interested?
Let's do lunch and work out the minor details.
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Well, today was a nice day- I slept in, wrote up my ride report, got my slides done for my lecture, ate a lot, and then went for a nice easy 28 mile ride.
As to the racer boys, they were kind of sorry when you think about it. What kind of self-respecting 22 year old racer boy rides at the same speed as two ladies pacing themselves for a 130 mile ride? Think about it, they should have blown past us quickly, not hung around in our vicinity for 45 minutes. I'm not even 100% sure they were trying to be mean. It's possible that they were trying to be funny- you know the type, they hang in packs, the insecure male, and their MO is to rag on each other because somehow ripping their friends down makes them feel stronger. Anyway, I don't see this as a cycling thing, it's an immature male thing. Don't get me wrong, packs of insecure women do the same thing, they're just less obvious about it. Maybe it was even cute, these racer boys trying to rag on us, they thought we were all friends, lol. It actually did not bother me in the slightest, I was 100% confident that my little group was comprised of way better cyclists. They were probably out on a 60 mile ride and very proud of their prowess.
I'm a little confused about the bonk, though. It's my understanding that you can only absorb 200 cal/hr so that's what I always aim to eat. Looking back, I was keeping up with that right up until the La Cumbre summit, although I did start to get behind with the unexpected climb after the summit, on the descent, and during those miles leading up to lunch. I also underestimated the ride from SB back to Ojai, it was "easy" but still 60 miles when I'd already become glycogen depleted. Clearly at that point, I was running off calorie intake, needed to be eating fairly constantly. Im still confused as to where the calories from that huge lunch went. I'm pretty sure I digested and absorbed it, I didn't puke it up after all and felt fine GI wise, I don't think it was just sitting there undigested.
So I'm now thinking:
1. Maybe I can absorb more than 200 cal/hr, I'm going to try it and see
2. I typically think I burn about 350 cal/hr when cycling, but need to remember with really tough work like this, it's probably way more, 500-550 cal/hr
3. I have been afraid to eat a big lunch, people have told me I'll be unable to digest it, all the blood will be going to my muscles. I'm sure that's true to some extent but I think I can eat way more while resting than people have led me to believe
As to the racer boys, they were kind of sorry when you think about it. What kind of self-respecting 22 year old racer boy rides at the same speed as two ladies pacing themselves for a 130 mile ride? Think about it, they should have blown past us quickly, not hung around in our vicinity for 45 minutes. I'm not even 100% sure they were trying to be mean. It's possible that they were trying to be funny- you know the type, they hang in packs, the insecure male, and their MO is to rag on each other because somehow ripping their friends down makes them feel stronger. Anyway, I don't see this as a cycling thing, it's an immature male thing. Don't get me wrong, packs of insecure women do the same thing, they're just less obvious about it. Maybe it was even cute, these racer boys trying to rag on us, they thought we were all friends, lol. It actually did not bother me in the slightest, I was 100% confident that my little group was comprised of way better cyclists. They were probably out on a 60 mile ride and very proud of their prowess.
I'm a little confused about the bonk, though. It's my understanding that you can only absorb 200 cal/hr so that's what I always aim to eat. Looking back, I was keeping up with that right up until the La Cumbre summit, although I did start to get behind with the unexpected climb after the summit, on the descent, and during those miles leading up to lunch. I also underestimated the ride from SB back to Ojai, it was "easy" but still 60 miles when I'd already become glycogen depleted. Clearly at that point, I was running off calorie intake, needed to be eating fairly constantly. Im still confused as to where the calories from that huge lunch went. I'm pretty sure I digested and absorbed it, I didn't puke it up after all and felt fine GI wise, I don't think it was just sitting there undigested.
So I'm now thinking:
1. Maybe I can absorb more than 200 cal/hr, I'm going to try it and see
2. I typically think I burn about 350 cal/hr when cycling, but need to remember with really tough work like this, it's probably way more, 500-550 cal/hr
3. I have been afraid to eat a big lunch, people have told me I'll be unable to digest it, all the blood will be going to my muscles. I'm sure that's true to some extent but I think I can eat way more while resting than people have led me to believe
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They canceled the only organized ride I was planning on participating in this year the MN Major: River to River Ride so Saturday I decided (last minute) to ride it solo. I altered the route slightly to just leave from my home instead of the apple orchard it normally leaves from. Around the 50 mile mark I started to think I wrote my cue sheet down wrong so I turned around and rode back to connect with where my route was heading. Turns out my turn was about 5 miles ahead of where I gave up on it. So, my ride got cut short by 10-15 miles, but with the additional miles caused by leaving from home I still kept it over 100k (70.8 miles).
I was out of Skratch Labs so I picked up a Gatorade and cut it 50/50 with water. That stuff is still way to sweet even diluted down that much. I also didn't have anything on hand to munch on while I was riding so using knowledge gleaned from Addiction @Heathpack) I picked up a package of figgies to munch along the way. I still probably should have stopped for lunch in Afton before the 3 "big" "climbs" because my legs were about toast by the time I got done with them. Luckily it's just 15 miles or so from that point back home so no big deal.
My Garmin said 4600 feet of climbing and Strava tells me 2900 feet. I don't know which to believe, but I thought it was a lot of climbing until I saw the rides being posted by people I follow on Strava. One guy I ride with did a 8 person group ride in Western WI that consisted of 4k feet of climbing over 73 miles, which is comparable to what I did except they did it at 4mph faster than me... Must be nice to have people to draft off of! Then of course @Heathpack posted her ride. Show off!
Was a good ride. I'll have to do it again and keep going for the correct turn off point at the 50 mile mark. Maybe save something in the tank so I can tack on a few miles and make it a century ride.
I was out of Skratch Labs so I picked up a Gatorade and cut it 50/50 with water. That stuff is still way to sweet even diluted down that much. I also didn't have anything on hand to munch on while I was riding so using knowledge gleaned from Addiction @Heathpack) I picked up a package of figgies to munch along the way. I still probably should have stopped for lunch in Afton before the 3 "big" "climbs" because my legs were about toast by the time I got done with them. Luckily it's just 15 miles or so from that point back home so no big deal.
My Garmin said 4600 feet of climbing and Strava tells me 2900 feet. I don't know which to believe, but I thought it was a lot of climbing until I saw the rides being posted by people I follow on Strava. One guy I ride with did a 8 person group ride in Western WI that consisted of 4k feet of climbing over 73 miles, which is comparable to what I did except they did it at 4mph faster than me... Must be nice to have people to draft off of! Then of course @Heathpack posted her ride. Show off!
Was a good ride. I'll have to do it again and keep going for the correct turn off point at the 50 mile mark. Maybe save something in the tank so I can tack on a few miles and make it a century ride.
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Firehouse Century today... 123.4 miles and 7,530 ft.
We missed a few turns.
We missed a few turns.
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Well, today was a nice day- I slept in, wrote up my ride report, got my slides done for my lecture, ate a lot, and then went for a nice easy 28 mile ride.
As to the racer boys, they were kind of sorry when you think about it. What kind of self-respecting 22 year old racer boy rides at the same speed as two ladies pacing themselves for a 130 mile ride? Think about it, they should have blown past us quickly, not hung around in our vicinity for 45 minutes. I'm not even 100% sure they were trying to be mean. It's possible that they were trying to be funny- you know the type, they hang in packs, the insecure male, and their MO is to rag on each other because somehow ripping their friends down makes them feel stronger. Anyway, I don't see this as a cycling thing, it's an immature male thing. Don't get me wrong, packs of insecure women do the same thing, they're just less obvious about it. Maybe it was even cute, these racer boys trying to rag on us, they thought we were all friends, lol. It actually did not bother me in the slightest, I was 100% confident that my little group was comprised of way better cyclists. They were probably out on a 60 mile ride and very proud of their prowess.
I'm a little confused about the bonk, though. It's my understanding that you can only absorb 200 cal/hr so that's what I always aim to eat. Looking back, I was keeping up with that right up until the La Cumbre summit, although I did start to get behind with the unexpected climb after the summit, on the descent, and during those miles leading up to lunch. I also underestimated the ride from SB back to Ojai, it was "easy" but still 60 miles when I'd already become glycogen depleted. Clearly at that point, I was running off calorie intake, needed to be eating fairly constantly. Im still confused as to where the calories from that huge lunch went. I'm pretty sure I digested and absorbed it, I didn't puke it up after all and felt fine GI wise, I don't think it was just sitting there undigested.
So I'm now thinking:
1. Maybe I can absorb more than 200 cal/hr, I'm going to try it and see
2. I typically think I burn about 350 cal/hr when cycling, but need to remember with really tough work like this, it's probably way more, 500-550 cal/hr
3. I have been afraid to eat a big lunch, people have told me I'll be unable to digest it, all the blood will be going to my muscles. I'm sure that's true to some extent but I think I can eat way more while resting than people have led me to believe
As to the racer boys, they were kind of sorry when you think about it. What kind of self-respecting 22 year old racer boy rides at the same speed as two ladies pacing themselves for a 130 mile ride? Think about it, they should have blown past us quickly, not hung around in our vicinity for 45 minutes. I'm not even 100% sure they were trying to be mean. It's possible that they were trying to be funny- you know the type, they hang in packs, the insecure male, and their MO is to rag on each other because somehow ripping their friends down makes them feel stronger. Anyway, I don't see this as a cycling thing, it's an immature male thing. Don't get me wrong, packs of insecure women do the same thing, they're just less obvious about it. Maybe it was even cute, these racer boys trying to rag on us, they thought we were all friends, lol. It actually did not bother me in the slightest, I was 100% confident that my little group was comprised of way better cyclists. They were probably out on a 60 mile ride and very proud of their prowess.
I'm a little confused about the bonk, though. It's my understanding that you can only absorb 200 cal/hr so that's what I always aim to eat. Looking back, I was keeping up with that right up until the La Cumbre summit, although I did start to get behind with the unexpected climb after the summit, on the descent, and during those miles leading up to lunch. I also underestimated the ride from SB back to Ojai, it was "easy" but still 60 miles when I'd already become glycogen depleted. Clearly at that point, I was running off calorie intake, needed to be eating fairly constantly. Im still confused as to where the calories from that huge lunch went. I'm pretty sure I digested and absorbed it, I didn't puke it up after all and felt fine GI wise, I don't think it was just sitting there undigested.
So I'm now thinking:
1. Maybe I can absorb more than 200 cal/hr, I'm going to try it and see
2. I typically think I burn about 350 cal/hr when cycling, but need to remember with really tough work like this, it's probably way more, 500-550 cal/hr
3. I have been afraid to eat a big lunch, people have told me I'll be unable to digest it, all the blood will be going to my muscles. I'm sure that's true to some extent but I think I can eat way more while resting than people have led me to believe
Sure, try to eat more in future. But 11 hours riding is no picnic. That is endurance riding pure and simple. You have to build up to that and prepare for it to not have some negative experience. Unless you are Wonder Woman. You're not Wonder Woman, are you? See, if I were you I would be very pleased, bonk and all.
#5121
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For a few hours you can replenish 200 calories and burn 600-800 (that is what hard cycling uses up) and get away with it. You are using glycogen stores. But 11 hours? You are not likely to get through that without several days of extreme carb loading ahead of time and lots of preparation building up saddle time to that level. Just because you can only replace 200 calories per hour doesn't give you a pass on the extra you are burning. You have got to account for the discrepancy.
Sure, try to eat more in future. But 11 hours riding is no picnic. That is endurance riding pure and simple. You have to build up to that and prepare for it to not have some negative experience. Unless you are Wonder Woman. You're not Wonder Woman, are you? See, if I were you I would be very pleased, bonk and all.
Sure, try to eat more in future. But 11 hours riding is no picnic. That is endurance riding pure and simple. You have to build up to that and prepare for it to not have some negative experience. Unless you are Wonder Woman. You're not Wonder Woman, are you? See, if I were you I would be very pleased, bonk and all.
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Well, today was a nice day- I slept in, wrote up my ride report, got my slides done for my lecture, ate a lot, and then went for a nice easy 28 mile ride.
As to the racer boys, they were kind of sorry when you think about it. What kind of self-respecting 22 year old racer boy rides at the same speed as two ladies pacing themselves for a 130 mile ride? Think about it, they should have blown past us quickly, not hung around in our vicinity for 45 minutes. I'm not even 100% sure they were trying to be mean. It's possible that they were trying to be funny- you know the type, they hang in packs, the insecure male, and their MO is to rag on each other because somehow ripping their friends down makes them feel stronger. Anyway, I don't see this as a cycling thing, it's an immature male thing. Don't get me wrong, packs of insecure women do the same thing, they're just less obvious about it. Maybe it was even cute, these racer boys trying to rag on us, they thought we were all friends, lol. It actually did not bother me in the slightest, I was 100% confident that my little group was comprised of way better cyclists. They were probably out on a 60 mile ride and very proud of their prowess.
I'm a little confused about the bonk, though. It's my understanding that you can only absorb 200 cal/hr so that's what I always aim to eat. Looking back, I was keeping up with that right up until the La Cumbre summit, although I did start to get behind with the unexpected climb after the summit, on the descent, and during those miles leading up to lunch. I also underestimated the ride from SB back to Ojai, it was "easy" but still 60 miles when I'd already become glycogen depleted. Clearly at that point, I was running off calorie intake, needed to be eating fairly constantly. Im still confused as to where the calories from that huge lunch went. I'm pretty sure I digested and absorbed it, I didn't puke it up after all and felt fine GI wise, I don't think it was just sitting there undigested.
So I'm now thinking:
1. Maybe I can absorb more than 200 cal/hr, I'm going to try it and see
2. I typically think I burn about 350 cal/hr when cycling, but need to remember with really tough work like this, it's probably way more, 500-550 cal/hr
3. I have been afraid to eat a big lunch, people have told me I'll be unable to digest it, all the blood will be going to my muscles. I'm sure that's true to some extent but I think I can eat way more while resting than people have led me to believe
As to the racer boys, they were kind of sorry when you think about it. What kind of self-respecting 22 year old racer boy rides at the same speed as two ladies pacing themselves for a 130 mile ride? Think about it, they should have blown past us quickly, not hung around in our vicinity for 45 minutes. I'm not even 100% sure they were trying to be mean. It's possible that they were trying to be funny- you know the type, they hang in packs, the insecure male, and their MO is to rag on each other because somehow ripping their friends down makes them feel stronger. Anyway, I don't see this as a cycling thing, it's an immature male thing. Don't get me wrong, packs of insecure women do the same thing, they're just less obvious about it. Maybe it was even cute, these racer boys trying to rag on us, they thought we were all friends, lol. It actually did not bother me in the slightest, I was 100% confident that my little group was comprised of way better cyclists. They were probably out on a 60 mile ride and very proud of their prowess.
I'm a little confused about the bonk, though. It's my understanding that you can only absorb 200 cal/hr so that's what I always aim to eat. Looking back, I was keeping up with that right up until the La Cumbre summit, although I did start to get behind with the unexpected climb after the summit, on the descent, and during those miles leading up to lunch. I also underestimated the ride from SB back to Ojai, it was "easy" but still 60 miles when I'd already become glycogen depleted. Clearly at that point, I was running off calorie intake, needed to be eating fairly constantly. Im still confused as to where the calories from that huge lunch went. I'm pretty sure I digested and absorbed it, I didn't puke it up after all and felt fine GI wise, I don't think it was just sitting there undigested.
So I'm now thinking:
1. Maybe I can absorb more than 200 cal/hr, I'm going to try it and see
2. I typically think I burn about 350 cal/hr when cycling, but need to remember with really tough work like this, it's probably way more, 500-550 cal/hr
3. I have been afraid to eat a big lunch, people have told me I'll be unable to digest it, all the blood will be going to my muscles. I'm sure that's true to some extent but I think I can eat way more while resting than people have led me to believe
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