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Old 01-25-15, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by coasting
ignore this. nice guys never win. get mean.
Lot of truth in that.

Mean guys get their way at the front of a peleton. Still, one can be a tyrant on the bike and a nice guy off the bike. I had trouble with the nice part.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
Lot of truth in that.

Mean guys get their way at the front of a peleton. Still, one can be a tyrant on the bike and a nice guy off the bike. I had trouble with the nice part.

I love this.

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Originally Posted by coasting
I love this.

Brings back a lot of memories.
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so much yelling and shoving. really surprised me.
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Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH...
I'd be smug also if I were 6'3" 135..
Nah, I don't think YOU would like yourself if you couldn't drop and do 20.
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Originally Posted by coasting
woah..bunny was writing about his first race?

hey, old racers! what's it like to work your ass off and still not beat a young talent?
What do you think it's like? It's like every single day of your life. There were people better than them when they were young. There will be people better than them when they are old. What difference does it make? Let the fools keep score. The rest of us have too many more important things to do than worry about winning a bike race.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
What do you think it's like? It's like every single day of your life. There were people better than them when they were young. There will be people better than them when they are old. What difference does it make? Let the fools keep score. The rest of us have too many more important things to do than worry about winning a bike race.
You are wise, sensei.
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Originally Posted by coasting
ignore this. nice guys never win. get mean.
Uh huh.
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Originally Posted by coasting
ewwwwwwww......

I go to the hot spring spas here and it is full of wrinkly old men, tackle out. But I like it.

#nttawwt
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Going out and giving it a go is far better than sitting on the balcony and getting fat, whilst lobbing ****balls from afar!
@coasting is a professional spitballer.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
What do you think it's like? It's like every single day of your life. There were people better than them when they were young. There will be people better than them when they are old. What difference does it make? Let the fools keep score. The rest of us have too many more important things to do than worry about winning a bike race.
Define "better".
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Originally Posted by rjones28
Define "better".
Strictly limited to accomplishment. Bigger, stronger, faster, smarter, whatever it takes to win anything.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Strictly limited to accomplishment. Bigger, stronger, faster, smarter, whatever it takes to win anything.
Anything?
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
What difference does it make? Let the fools keep score. The rest of us have too many more important things to do than worry about winning a bike race.
Some may be fools for keeping score, but there are fools of a different variety that don't understand that winning a bike race isn't necessarily about, well, winning a bike race.
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Some may be fools for keeping score, but there are fools of a different variety that don't understand that winning a bike race isn't necessarily about, well, winning a bike race.

Its about trying for excellence. Racing makes sense to me. I'm not a racer but what racers are doing makes sense to me because they are always trying to be better. Their yardstick is different than mine, that's all.

And look at Bunny, just started, went out there as a newby and did something very hard, and did it well. I have nothing but respect for that.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Its about trying for excellence. Racing makes sense to me. I'm not a racer but what racers are doing makes sense to me because they are always trying to be better. Their yardstick is different than mine, that's all.

And look at Bunny, just started, went out there as a newby and did something very hard, and did it well. I have nothing but respect for that.
Me too. What my comments were about was the need to excel to be happy. Coasting was taunting the oldies for getting whupped by a youngster. I know very well he was joking, and it was all in fun. But the whole exercise was based on the common premise that they should be ashamed of losing. To me shame isn't consistent with happiness. Since I choose to be happy rather than let it depend upon my performance in athletics, I can't buy into the need to win as a means of enhancing self worth. Hence my comments that it is foolish to pursue the possibility of glory rather than the security of happiness. QED

Lest you think that my attitude would be different if I were a more accomplished cyclist, just look at him whose name shall not...never mind, just look at Lance Armstrong. No one is ever good enough to guarantee that their competitive results will satisfy them. I choose to be satisfied no matter what happens on the bike. And to bring the conversation full circle, I would recommend that to the oldsters that coasting was taunting, too.
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Whatever makes you happy.
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I am all for excelling. I just choose my battles. I don't need to win but I need to try my best. I can't stand those who do not make an effort at something they have a natural aptitude at.

Some things I just suck at and I do it because I enjoy it. I still suck. Some things I know I could do well and I should try harder.
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Originally Posted by coasting
I love this.

thanks for reminding me that I have balls the size of bb pellets...
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I have a natural aptitude for apathy.
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But I've never been interested in pursuing it professionally.
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Professional apathy is underrated.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Me too. What my comments were about was the need to excel to be happy. Coasting was taunting the oldies for getting whupped by a youngster. I know very well he was joking, and it was all in fun. But the whole exercise was based on the common premise that they should be ashamed of losing. To me shame isn't consistent with happiness. Since I choose to be happy rather than let it depend upon my performance in athletics, I can't buy into the need to win as a means of enhancing self worth. Hence my comments that it is foolish to pursue the possibility of glory rather than the security of happiness. QED

Lest you think that my attitude would be different if I were a more accomplished cyclist, just look at him whose name shall not...never mind, just look at Lance Armstrong. No one is ever good enough to guarantee that their competitive results will satisfy them. I choose to be satisfied no matter what happens on the bike. And to bring the conversation full circle, I would recommend that to the oldsters that coasting was taunting, too.
You're still not getting it and, for someone who seems intent on playing the part of the MUP racer crashing Addiction's casual group ride, comments like this are demonstrating a lack of self-awareness.
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I have a natural aptitude for apathy.
Whatever.
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Some things I know I could do well and I should try harder.
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