Ok so the Pinarello Montello showed up last night. Overall I am very pleased with the condition of the bike. The chrome is outstanding and the paint is very nice with the occasional chip, as to be expected. Looks like Campy C-Record components??? totaling guessing from a quick google search. The big question is will I be able to replace the rear derailleur and shifter with the correct one? Did they shave off the lever mount to put the Shimano 600 on? Also are the handlebars period correct and of the level of the rest of the group?
Pics posted with just a quick build up last night. Have not really set the bike up or cleaned and polished it properly.
I have a new set of stickers coming, although with the exception of the right seat tube sticker, they are in pretty good shape. Oh and the missing Montello sticker on the right side of the top tube. Thoughts and comments appreciated..new to this steel and campy thing.

Wonderful, C-REC - Cobalto Brakes, and Speedplay as well!

Regards,
J T

Yah cant live w/o my speedplay I asked a moderator to change the title of the post because I am a moron and forgot to change it after spending 15 minutes writing it

Great looking bike! I'm not familiar with that vintage of Campagnolo or index shifting, but I'd guess they didn't have to alter the shifter boss to change the lever, judging from the paint condition... hopefully!

Can't see what the bars are, but should be Cinelli.

I have a bare Pinarello frame I want to repaint and a set of decals to rebuild it someday!

Sorry the bars are NITTO model 185. I think they are a modern upgrade as well. Guess I will be looking for some Cinelli Bars as well. Anyone have suggestions on which Cinelli bars I need. Im such a noob to this stuff... funny thing is I was riding a lot when this bike was made..but I was too young and poor to really know what was what back then.

the stuff on your bike is from the first iteration of C-Record..
the original rear shifter was not designed for indexed shifting and the original derailleur did not have a barrel adjuster..

the desire for indexing is probably what prompted the previous owner to change out these two parts.

Most Pinarellos I have seen had 3T handlebars, but I don't think there is anything wrong with the one on there.
I also don't think the Shimano shifter is a real problem unless you are planning on displaying it instead of riding it. Pinarello did offer a Montello with complete Shimano components in the late 80's. My Pinarello came with Campy's 1st generation of indexed shifting, which was a joke.

I plan on riding the bike extensively, however, I would still like it to be all campy. The 600 is perfectly functional and I do not mind Shimano, I have full DuraAce on my Calfee. I guess I just want this to be all C-Record. Think I will leave the handlebars alone.

the derailleur should run you 100-200 depending on condition, By the looks of things you should be looking for a 1st generation. You'll probably have to buy a complete set of front shifters.

[QUOTE=mrt10x;5918974]Ok so the Pinarello Montello showed up last night. Overall I am very pleased with the condition of the bike. The chrome is outstanding and the paint is very nice with the occasional chip, as to be expected. Looks like Campy C-Record components??? totaling guessing from a quick google search. The big question is will I be able to replace the rear derailleur and shifter with the correct one? Did they shave off the lever mount to put the Shimano 600 on? Also are the handlebars period correct and of the level of the rest of the group?
Pics posted with just a quick build up last night. Have not really set the bike up or cleaned and polished it properly.
I have a new set of stickers coming, although with the exception of the right seat tube sticker, they are in pretty good shape. Oh and the missing Montello sticker on the right side of the top tube. Thoughts and comments appreciated..new to this steel and campy thing.


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Your crankset, hubs, and FD are C-record. I'd look for nothing less than a C-record rear derailleur. You have a fairly narrow range cluster, so I'd expect the Campy shifting performance to be real good.

I have a few Shimano 600 RDs, the 6207 series, and I do not like their shifting at all, even compared to a Nuovo Record. I would DEFINITELY go for the Campy. I've found old-school shifting with grabby freewheels like Shimano 600 or DuraAce or Sachs ARIS result in very easy shifting, creating a sort of "who needs indexing" feeling. My rationale for this "breach of purity" is that freewheels and chains are wear items, and one orten had to replace with the best available back in the day. Same story for rims, IMO.

C-record platform pedals are very beautiful and comfortable. There's a Chorus of the same vintage that looks similar but nowhere near as beautiful. I'd keep this bike pure, it's a stunner.

There are a number of shift levers out on the market that look a lot like C-record but are not - you might want to be careful about what you buy. Your left lever looks exactly right in terms of finish - try to get a right lever that matches it.

Road Fan

This leads to IMO a dilemna. The main vintage Cinelli bars were the Model 64 (Giro d'Italia) and the Model 66 (Campione del Mundo). I feel the 66 is too deep, but it allows a rather flat top ramp. The 64 is less deep, but to get the drop grips at the right angle the top ramps slant down too much for me. I find a lot more variety and a better personal fit in the Nittos. Right now I'm using a Randonneur, a Noodle, and a B115, and all have a fairly open but not too deep bend.

Road Fan

Does anyone know of a source to replace the missing "cobalto" stone in the rear brake?

I think I read that you can get matching stone at hobby supply house
(like Michaels here in Tx)
I've also seen the originals selling on ebay, pricey.

marty

Tell what you are trying to replace again, shifters? The front der looks good.
I have number sets of shifeters I have replace over the years when Ergo came about - probably 4 sets in the part box. Mike

As I understand it, he wants to replace the Shimano and with the proper Campy parts. He's also concerned that the shifter boss has been modified and the Campy shifter will no longer fit. Why doesn't he just pull the front shifter and look at the boss? I don't know.

This is the Proper Campy Derailleur:

Well, maybe one not quite so nicked up.

I cant see the pic because I am at work and the military firewalls blocks access to photobucket for some reason.

I have not pulled the right shifter off because I do not want to screw up the current shifting. I am being lazy and hoped that someone here would provide me devine guidance I think I have figured out that the boss is still there..

So Marengo what I need is a first generation C Record deraileur, although this bike has a seven speed rear cluster, and a first generation right friction shifter, or complete set. Make sense?

get some cinelli model 65 bars then.

so sweet but hard to get, especially in 44cm, I have one set I guard with my life.

Well if you take off the lever and you think there is enough of the boss to put the matching campy one - let me know. If you were in Seattle I'd send you to my local LBS who is a retro guy and ex frame builder and I am sure he could fix you up easily. Hang is there for a bike collector/fixer upper this is probably just a minor issue.

Really really nice bike!

the frame has not been modified in anyway, it's a simple sway over.

The full boss is there.. so now it is just a matter of finding the right shifter/shifters and a 1st gen C record rear derailleur.

One more question... the current rear cog is a seven speed, will a 1st generation C Record derailleur work.. I thought it was six speed?

Those are friction shifters and they don't care how many gears you have as long as the derailleur is physically capable of swinging the distance from one end to the other. In this case it can with ease. No problem.