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#701
- Soli Deo Gloria -
Joined: Aug 2015
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From: Northwest Georgia
Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
Is there a crankset which will give more chainstay clearance than Dura Ace?
A 48 tooth ring is close to the chainstay but the crank spider touches just barely. I need a few millimeters more clearance.
Omnium perhaps? That would be best because I prefer black but will take what I can get.
-Tim-
A 48 tooth ring is close to the chainstay but the crank spider touches just barely. I need a few millimeters more clearance.
Omnium perhaps? That would be best because I prefer black but will take what I can get.
-Tim-
#702
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Your fancy new custom track frame won't clear a very common track crankset because the chainstay isn't dimpled? That seems like an expensive problem.
Last edited by Scrodzilla; 04-23-18 at 12:41 AM.
#705
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Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 863
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From: SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
Bikes: stinner cx, paramount track
since that dura ace bb is octalink you cant just find another bb spindle thats slightly longer and swap it out. because octalink is trash.
but you can do that with square taper campy.
because square taper is all thats needed on a trackbike.
but you can do that with square taper campy.
because square taper is all thats needed on a trackbike.
#707
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Joined: Dec 2013
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From: Coeur d' Alene
Bikes: 3 Chinese Gas Pipe Nerdcycles and 2 Chicago Electroforged Boat Anchors
#708
#709
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From: Coeur d' Alene
Bikes: 3 Chinese Gas Pipe Nerdcycles and 2 Chicago Electroforged Boat Anchors
#710
Clark W. Griswold




Joined: Mar 2014
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From: ,location, location
Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
#711
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Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 127
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From: Ontario
Bikes: Wheeler custom fixed gear
So I need some advice on replacing my bike that was totaled bc I'm terrified I'm going to hate what I get. I know this isn't technically SS/FG but this is the forum I frequent and trust the other members here. I went to my LBS today to have a look around and see what they recommend, because I said I built my old bike for touring the person helping me started pulling Marin and Kona touring bikes. I've narrowed it down to a 2018 Marin four corners or a 2018 Kona Rove AL. I hate aluminum but the Kona Rove seems to be my top option for value for money. The Marin is nice and also steel which is a bonus, but it's very modern and in a horrible blue colour. should I take the plunge and get a "gravel bike"?
My second choice is an older Fairdale weekender they have in the showroom, again horrible colour but i think i'd like the more "city" oriented bike that I could build to be more of a stylish tourer and it's steel with canti breaks instead of disk. obviously a downgrade from the entry level gravel bikes I mentioned above.
My third option is should I buy vintage used and most likely get everything I'm looking for in a bike but sacrifice having a modern bike.
I guess my questions are, are modern gravel bikes good enough for me to sacrifice my aesthetic wants? is a modern steel city bike a better option than building my own from a higher end vintage frame? will I get more value out of modern bike versus a mid range vintage roadbike or sport tourer?
My second choice is an older Fairdale weekender they have in the showroom, again horrible colour but i think i'd like the more "city" oriented bike that I could build to be more of a stylish tourer and it's steel with canti breaks instead of disk. obviously a downgrade from the entry level gravel bikes I mentioned above.
My third option is should I buy vintage used and most likely get everything I'm looking for in a bike but sacrifice having a modern bike.
I guess my questions are, are modern gravel bikes good enough for me to sacrifice my aesthetic wants? is a modern steel city bike a better option than building my own from a higher end vintage frame? will I get more value out of modern bike versus a mid range vintage roadbike or sport tourer?
#712
What is your budget and what look are you going for?
and I’m not 100% sure but I think the answers are Yes to all of your questions.
If if you want steel, check out the All city Gorilla Monsoon. Just released it’s a steel cross and touring monster.
Alternatively check out the Jamis Renegade lineup.
and I’m not 100% sure but I think the answers are Yes to all of your questions.
If if you want steel, check out the All city Gorilla Monsoon. Just released it’s a steel cross and touring monster.
Alternatively check out the Jamis Renegade lineup.
#713
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Joined: Oct 2016
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From: Ontario
Bikes: Wheeler custom fixed gear
That's what i was afraid of
my budget is roughly 1300, ideally less so I can afford some bags and racks for my tour later this summer. My budget firmly places All-City out of reach unless I shop around for an older nature boy or something. The Jamis Renegade looks to be roughly the same as the Kona Rove I was looking at. The look I'm going for is "country bike" a-la Rivendell but lugs are out of my budget. I think I've narrowed it down to a 2014 Fairdale weekender provided the one they have is my size. Comparing geo charts, the geometry is almost identical to the Kona Rove but it comes with swept back bars and a 1x9 drive train which is more than I'll probably ever need coming from my fixed gear bikes.
my budget is roughly 1300, ideally less so I can afford some bags and racks for my tour later this summer. My budget firmly places All-City out of reach unless I shop around for an older nature boy or something. The Jamis Renegade looks to be roughly the same as the Kona Rove I was looking at. The look I'm going for is "country bike" a-la Rivendell but lugs are out of my budget. I think I've narrowed it down to a 2014 Fairdale weekender provided the one they have is my size. Comparing geo charts, the geometry is almost identical to the Kona Rove but it comes with swept back bars and a 1x9 drive train which is more than I'll probably ever need coming from my fixed gear bikes.
#714
For being like 20 years old the bearings still feel perfect. The hub itself is an interesting design. Big ol' bearings, pre-load nuts are "secured" by an internal O-rings that grip the threads (it feels like you're cross-threading it), the silver end caps are secured with O-rings gripping the inside of the axle. That's all there is to it. When funds allow it'll be part of a second set 'cross wheels because why not.
#715
Clark W. Griswold




Joined: Mar 2014
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From: ,location, location
Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
For being like 20 years old the bearings still feel perfect. The hub itself is an interesting design. Big ol' bearings, pre-load nuts are "secured" by an internal O-rings that grip the threads (it feels like you're cross-threading it), the silver end caps are secured with O-rings gripping the inside of the axle. That's all there is to it. When funds allow it'll be part of a second set 'cross wheels because why not.
So I need some advice on replacing my bike that was totaled bc I'm terrified I'm going to hate what I get. I know this isn't technically SS/FG but this is the forum I frequent and trust the other members here. I went to my LBS today to have a look around and see what they recommend, because I said I built my old bike for touring the person helping me started pulling Marin and Kona touring bikes. I've narrowed it down to a 2018 Marin four corners or a 2018 Kona Rove AL. I hate aluminum but the Kona Rove seems to be my top option for value for money. The Marin is nice and also steel which is a bonus, but it's very modern and in a horrible blue colour. should I take the plunge and get a "gravel bike"?
My second choice is an older Fairdale weekender they have in the showroom, again horrible colour but i think i'd like the more "city" oriented bike that I could build to be more of a stylish tourer and it's steel with canti breaks instead of disk. obviously a downgrade from the entry level gravel bikes I mentioned above.
My third option is should I buy vintage used and most likely get everything I'm looking for in a bike but sacrifice having a modern bike.
I guess my questions are, are modern gravel bikes good enough for me to sacrifice my aesthetic wants? is a modern steel city bike a better option than building my own from a higher end vintage frame? will I get more value out of modern bike versus a mid range vintage roadbike or sport tourer?
My second choice is an older Fairdale weekender they have in the showroom, again horrible colour but i think i'd like the more "city" oriented bike that I could build to be more of a stylish tourer and it's steel with canti breaks instead of disk. obviously a downgrade from the entry level gravel bikes I mentioned above.
My third option is should I buy vintage used and most likely get everything I'm looking for in a bike but sacrifice having a modern bike.
I guess my questions are, are modern gravel bikes good enough for me to sacrifice my aesthetic wants? is a modern steel city bike a better option than building my own from a higher end vintage frame? will I get more value out of modern bike versus a mid range vintage roadbike or sport tourer?
#716
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Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 127
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From: Ontario
Bikes: Wheeler custom fixed gear
I thought I saw you mention a Jamis Renegade and that would be an excellent choice assuming you went for a steel version. The Expat would be a fine option in the lower price point but the Escapade would be my top choice and considering you are getting a nicer frame and Ultegra for only 2700 it is a pretty good option.
#717
Thinking of switching out my Soma HWY1 drops for a shallow riser bar but need some help. My quill stem is a 26 clamp, and I'm looking for basically a straight across bar with no sweep back. Does such a thing exist? Must be silver.
(will also need brakes levers and I have no idea what to do with grips or whatnot - what's the style these days?)
Do you think it'll look good?
for reference :https://www.instagram.com/p/BdxhQQUl...=thesurlybiker
(will also need brakes levers and I have no idea what to do with grips or whatnot - what's the style these days?)
Do you think it'll look good?
for reference :https://www.instagram.com/p/BdxhQQUl...=thesurlybiker
#718
Clark W. Griswold




Joined: Mar 2014
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From: ,location, location
Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
2700 is double my budget lol. The Expat seems nice, still a little modern and flashy for me but I'll try and find a Jamis dealer in my area if the Fairdale Weekender i'm looking at doesn't suit my needs. I know that the Rove also comes in steel as well and since my LBS is a kona dealer I might look at the steel version even if it's out of my budget. I'll totally have to test ride some of these first because I have no idea what these bikes will feel like, I haven't ridden anything newer than the 80s except for an aluminum norco hybrid that I hated very much
#719
- Soli Deo Gloria -
Joined: Aug 2015
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From: Northwest Georgia
Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
Lots of guys were riding Jamis at the Southern Cross gravel race. I saw at least three Expats.
I would have bought a Renegade Elite if it came with Di2.
Jamis seems to have an amazing parts mix for the money. Lots of value across all their product lines.
-Tim-
I would have bought a Renegade Elite if it came with Di2.
Jamis seems to have an amazing parts mix for the money. Lots of value across all their product lines.
-Tim-
#720
Clark W. Griswold




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From: ,location, location
Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
Interesting proposition Di2...though make mine an Escapade and use 853 or Ti ; )
#721
- Soli Deo Gloria -
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 14,779
Likes: 743
From: Northwest Georgia
Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
I also saw a guy pedaling a fixed gear Moots mountain bike in that race. We chatted for a bit until the road got too steep. It's called Winding Stair Gap Rd and the name is apt. We both walked the final 100 yards.
#722
Clark W. Griswold




Joined: Mar 2014
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From: ,location, location
Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
A fixed gear Moots? ME wanty!!!!!!!
#723
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Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 127
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From: Ontario
Bikes: Wheeler custom fixed gear
I actually ended up buying the Fairdale bc I just didnt need something so serious. In the future I might get more of an actual serious gravel bike if I find I need something different. I could also put drop bars on the fairdale later on and do a double or triple chain ring in the front and do disk brakes. It just seemed like a no brainer to get something a little more quirky and cute that satisfied my aesthetic needs a bit and also had room to upgrade in the future. Thanks for all your advice tho even if i took none of it lol
#724
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
Likes: 100
From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Thinking of switching out my Soma HWY1 drops for a shallow riser bar but need some help. My quill stem is a 26 clamp, and I'm looking for basically a straight across bar with no sweep back. Does such a thing exist? Must be silver.
(will also need brakes levers and I have no idea what to do with grips or whatnot - what's the style these days?)
Do you think it'll look good?
for reference :https://www.instagram.com/p/BdxhQQUl...=thesurlybiker
(will also need brakes levers and I have no idea what to do with grips or whatnot - what's the style these days?)
Do you think it'll look good?
for reference :https://www.instagram.com/p/BdxhQQUl...=thesurlybiker




He's made significant changes since then.