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Old 11-23-05 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by shants
i hope you all realize that the bulk of the antagonism in this thread is due to the fact that this 53_11 **** is always a total, well, **** ****, in every other thread.
too bad he didn't show up for the M&G. I would have had a special prize just for him.
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Old 11-23-05 | 11:27 AM
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I have no problem with the fuji, it's a nice bike, and
good value for the money.
I bristle at the old tired saggy fatigued iron bullschit
so I called him on it, it ain't hatin.
I don't come in here bragging about my bike and
cr@pping on everyone elses whether it is Alu, Ti, CF or steel.
Road, track,it's all good.
BTW I won't have 404's on it. Fiamme red labels running conti competitions
or pistas, maybe sonderclasse if 53-11 responds, bet they have better
rolling resistance too.

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Old 11-23-05 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by shants
i hope you all realize that the bulk of the antagonism in this thread is due to the fact that this 53_11 **** is always a total, well, **** ****, in every other thread.
dolface *hearts* shants
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Old 11-23-05 | 11:59 AM
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no one can whip out the trash talk better than shants me thinks.

hey lotek. You frequent the frisco velodrome??? I go there aswell. I go to school in Oklahoma but i have family in frisco and go about once amonth. Maybe we could ride sometime and you could give me a few pointers.
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Old 11-23-05 | 12:00 PM
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I don't think we were hatin, just stating preferences. I said its different to ride on a track because they are well paved so ride quality is not as important whereas if your riding in the city, steel will absorb more shock and to me, it feels better.

BTW 53-11 what were you riding before?
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Old 11-23-05 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by shants
i hope you all realize that the bulk of the antagonism in this thread is due to the fact that this 53_11 **** is always a total, well, **** ****, in every other thread.
I couldn't have said it any better. wangster - speak for yourself, I was (am) hatin'. I don't care what kind of bike he gets (in fact, I have nothing against that bike except for the stock bars), he's still a Big **** (or **** Sandwich). That's why I decided to act like a two year old and start antagonizing back...he did it first!
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Old 11-23-05 | 12:28 PM
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sorry... ignore me... keep on truckin...or hatin... whichever
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Old 11-23-05 | 12:30 PM
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Fuji Track Pro = good for parts.
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Old 11-23-05 | 12:43 PM
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ya'll drank the haterade...this tread is the Fuji Jim Jones massacre...
that's funny.
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Old 11-23-05 | 01:03 PM
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[QUOTE=shants]******lips [QUOTE]
this is the greatest made up swear i have heard today.
shants makes my vulgar heart pitter patter.
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Old 11-23-05 | 02:49 PM
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Fuji Track Pro = good for parts.
i totaly second that! when i saw the bike that's the first thing that popped into my head was to throw all those parts onto a nice steel frame.
 
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Old 11-23-05 | 02:50 PM
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not to mention that he set the tone for the bike bashing with his/her first two comments. Just ride your bikes and don't hate other people's cause it's pointless.
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Old 11-23-05 | 02:55 PM
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I'm not into old steel stuff that's long past it's prime. I'd would haven taken this or a Pista concept. Museum pieces/antiques are for old men.

Besides I laugh at them when I see some ancient steel flex frame equipped with super stiff Deep Vs and straight guage spokes. Uhmmmmm.....that's just plain silly.
i think the second line of his quote is what pissed people off. it sure got my pissed. i think he got us all boiling cause he talks like he's some big shot expert on fatigued steel frames. sheldon rides a 1916 mead ranger! that thing is old! but it's steel, so you can keep riding it. in a couple of years that aluminum frame is going to need some replacing. i don't think that anyone can argue that aluminum is stronger than steel. if you look at most aluminum frames they don't weigh that much less than steel. the iro Jamie Roy aluminum frame weighs .1 pound less than the mark v! and it's not as strong.
aluminum doesn't rust, and that's all it's got going for it. but im sure 53-11 wont be riding in the rain anyway
 
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Old 11-23-05 | 04:14 PM
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Haters.

I almost got really mad when I saw this thread. WAIT......I haven't bought mine yet....if they are all gone....grrrrrrrr.

Ok better now. Mine is in the back seat of my car and will hopefully be built up in the next few days.

Personally I think the bike is absolutely fugly, but for what it is, and what I paid for it, I think it'll work well. Plus it'll give me some time to figure out what exactly I want to do regarding track bikes. It's tough not to pick up for $650, where when you look at an alternative of a custom or new NJS you can easily reach $2500-$3500 depending on components.
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Old 11-23-05 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by psn
he's still a Big **** (or **** Sandwich).
Leave turd outta this! (ba-dum-dum...)

In any case, this thread is extra funny if, like me, you have that 53-11 guy on your "ignored users" list.
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Old 11-23-05 | 10:33 PM
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Kiecker, You SUCK!!!... Mine is sitting in a UPS building about 10 miles from house...waiting until Monday to be delivered....ARRRRGH!!!!
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Old 11-23-05 | 11:05 PM
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Come on, dude is just trolling, looking to get people riled up. If nothing else he turned us all on to a very good deal on a very nice bike(horrible paint job or not).
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Old 11-23-05 | 11:36 PM
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BTW 53-11 what were you riding before?
dude! i know! that's such a stupid gear, that's about 130 inches! the only way i would use that gear is if i had like 16" tires! (305mm)
 
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Old 11-23-05 | 11:43 PM
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i dunno, that bike looks ugly as sin, but i bet it'd be nice on a track. i'm not a fanatic for any one kind of frame, but there's a feel in aluminum that i sort of like. i also like steel, too, but for different things, i use a different bike. i'd probably enjoy something like that for the track, and definitely at that price.
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Old 11-24-05 | 02:36 AM
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Kiecker, You SUCK!!!... Mine is sitting in a UPS building about 10 miles from house...waiting until Monday to be delivered....ARRRRGH!!!!
Chucks is only a 6 hour drive for you

If time permits a build I might actually get to race it on Saturday. If not, I'll wait for my new pedals to come in and be at the track either Thursday or Saturday the following week. Until then I'll keep riding my other bike.
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Old 11-24-05 | 02:37 AM
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i dunno, that bike looks ugly as sin, but i bet it'd be nice on a track. i'm not a fanatic for any one kind of frame, but there's a feel in aluminum that i sort of like. i also like steel, too, but for different things, i use a different bike. i'd probably enjoy something like that for the track, and definitely at that price.
My thoughts exactly.
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Old 11-24-05 | 06:04 AM
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whereas if your riding in the city, steel will absorb more shock and to me, it feels better.
Yeah nice BS and it makes no sense cuz most of you noobs put straight guage spokes (stiff) in between Deep Vs (stiff again) and High Flange Hubs (which puts a cherry on the flexible frame/stiff wheel sundae you call a vintage steel track bike)

Why do something like that if you care about ride so much?

Flame away.
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Old 11-24-05 | 07:54 AM
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Personally, I could care less that he bought a Fuji. He bashes Steel and feels his opinion is righteous.
I will add, at this time, that Fuji's are made in MAINLAND CHINA and cost $44 (inlcuding paint) to make and it is a disposable frame, because when those aluminum dropouts start getting gouged from the axle nuts (and they will) your frame will be useless unless you ride only one gear.

Anyhow, enjoy your bargain while you can, and dont be bashing Steel, or I will hook you to the rail on my Steel frame...



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Blah Blah Blah.....Are you sure you aren't biased somewhat?

FYI, There are many worthy steel frames out there. They just weren't made in 1982.
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Old 11-24-05 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 53-11_alltheway
Yeah nice BS and it makes no sense cuz most of you noobs put straight guage spokes (stiff) in between Deep Vs (stiff again) and High Flange Hubs (which puts a cherry on the flexible frame/stiff wheel sundae you call a vintage steel track bike)

Why do something like that if you care about ride so much?

Flame away.
this from the same person who was looking for 195mm+ crank arms,
spouts anything he reads on rec.bicycle.bs, is heavily into weightweenies.com
and started the totally lame Darthvader school of bike racing.
Noob? seems to me you've been riding less than 2 years? something about
being a champion weight lifter before? I started riding in the 70's so
don't be throwing any Newb BS around.
so 53 here's a little challenge for you.
Show us pictures of your rides, and not from manufactures websites, actual
honest to god this is a picture of my bike.
and I do have to apologize for my little track challange, it really
isn't polite, you name the track and time and I'll come play, you
don't have to come here.

1984 Pogliaghi pista frame, Fiamme Red rims, 14/15 ga spokes on campy pista
high flange hubs. It will eat your lunch anytime anyplace.
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Old 11-24-05 | 08:59 AM
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Blah Blah Blah? thats the best you can do?
I know plenty of good riding steel bikes made before 82...and many more after.
And yes, I am biased...steel is real period
For the record, I might have given Fuji too much credit, in volume those frames could be as low as $25, afterall, we are talking about mainland China...

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That's because you sell steel bikes (my columbus SLX Bianchi is nice riding, but it's a POS compared to my modest Cannondale CAAD 4) Fact is unless you have special geometry needs aluminum has a better strength to weight ratio. That's why planes are made of aluminum and bridges are made of steel.

Under high force (sprinting/racing) conditions I'll take aluminum anyday over steel (unless the steel frame is a tank). The EFBE tests prove this as well (where steel fails before aluminum depite steel being heavier)

LOL@ Steel is real.

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