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09-19-06 | 02:14 PM
#26
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From: East of the River, Washington DC
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what are you guys talking about?
edit: oh... dutret's on my ignore list.
onetwentyeight, I think dutret's just tying to make you forget your injuries by making you mad at him. He's just trying to help!!
SO sorry to hear about all the dentistry, makes my mouth hurt to think about it.
heal quickly.
edit: oh... dutret's on my ignore list.
onetwentyeight, I think dutret's just tying to make you forget your injuries by making you mad at him. He's just trying to help!!
SO sorry to hear about all the dentistry, makes my mouth hurt to think about it.
heal quickly.
09-19-06 | 02:15 PM
#27
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My point is you keep pointing out that they left the scene which is reprehensible but IF the accident was your fault what difference would it have made for your bills etc. if the driver had stayed. Your bike would still be totalled(although maybe not impounded), your bills would still be unpaid and your teeth would still be ****ed up, AND you could have gotten a ticket if the driver told the cop thier side of the story.
Also see the thread about whose responsibility is riding safe. This is exactly where taking responsibility for your own recklessness comes in.
Also see the thread about whose responsibility is riding safe. This is exactly where taking responsibility for your own recklessness comes in.
09-19-06 | 02:16 PM
#28
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have you considered calling around to the auto body shops in the area, asking if they've seen any silver cars/trucks/suv's come in with damage and who wasn't filing an insurance claim?
09-19-06 | 02:17 PM
#29
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I don't know about SF, but NYC (perhaps NY State) is no fault. Driver's insurance pays, so in such a case the driver leaving would matter irrespective of whose fault it was.
09-19-06 | 02:18 PM
#30
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Originally Posted by acavengo
dutret, you might think that your points are ultra important and perhaps some of them are indeed, but you don't have to be a big dick in order to make them. Act like a ****'n human being and show some sympathy for your fellow man.
onetwentyeight, heal up!
onetwentyeight, heal up!
09-19-06 | 02:19 PM
#31
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We'll I cant answer that, because I hit my head and don't really remember the accident. Maybe I'd be able to answer that question if they'd stayed and been able to tell their side of what had happened.
You are arguing a moot point. I am not blaming them, and I have taken responsability for my own actions. I'm not after this mystery driver, its a waste of my time and energy AND a lost cause, I just want to get better and get back on a bike.
You are arguing a moot point. I am not blaming them, and I have taken responsability for my own actions. I'm not after this mystery driver, its a waste of my time and energy AND a lost cause, I just want to get better and get back on a bike.
09-19-06 | 02:22 PM
#32
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ugh. peace out bikeforums, have fun in your little corner of the internet.
09-19-06 | 02:29 PM
#33
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dutret, are you saying what the driver did was right?
09-19-06 | 02:32 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by dutret
If he cares more about the look of his vintage bike and speed then his safety he gets no sympathy from me when his recklessness gets him hurt. There are plenty of people who actually are riding legally and reasonably safely and still get creamed by cars. **** like this makes rightly makes everyones default expectation that the cyclist was at fault.
09-19-06 | 02:32 PM
#35
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no I said it was both legally and morally wrong and I said it was reprehensible. It is understandable however.
09-19-06 | 02:32 PM
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heal fast 128.
dutret clam down. i got creamed a couple month ago, riding legally, person took off, i blacked out and recall very little about the accident and cant remember anything about the vehicle who hit me. so whats the difference between my situation and 128's? looks like it doesnt matter whose fault it is, the driver in a bike-car crash is going to take off.
dutret clam down. i got creamed a couple month ago, riding legally, person took off, i blacked out and recall very little about the accident and cant remember anything about the vehicle who hit me. so whats the difference between my situation and 128's? looks like it doesnt matter whose fault it is, the driver in a bike-car crash is going to take off.
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09-19-06 | 02:33 PM
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128, heal up fast mayne.
dutret, you're makin my loins growl again.
dutret, you're makin my loins growl again.
09-19-06 | 02:34 PM
#38
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dutret, have you considered the possibility that the driver was under the influence? that would be one reason why someone would speed off after hitting someone.
09-19-06 | 02:38 PM
#39
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Indeed I have, I even mentioned that as a likely cause. 128 was still running through an intersection and still at fault. In any ethical sense two drunks pretty much equal each other out as far as the drinking goes.
09-19-06 | 02:46 PM
#40
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Originally Posted by onetwentyeight
got creamed by a hit and run a week ago. one wheel is tacoed, the other shattered. frame is bent from what I told but I havent seen it yet since the cops are holding it for evidence still. ****ers. No broken bones, but one tooth was knocked out, one twitsed around in its socket, and another chipped severely. There is a metal wire stabalizing my teeth while the two damaged teeth around the one knocked out heal up. I will need surgery to remove the root of the one knocked out, then need 2 root canals and an implant. I have nasty road rash on my knees to the extent I cant bend my left leg. Road rash on my face too, stitches in my chin, scrapes on the side of my jaw, face, and nose. Possible fracture of my upper jaw. I had a concussion, too, I think. Could have been much worse but I'm facing upwards of 5grand in dental bills. So yea. ride safe, and **** cars. if anyone sees a dented car with blood on it in san francisco, huck a ulock thru their window. I was ahead of my friends when I got hit, and the other witness car split, too. No idea what the make was, or lisence, and I dont really remember much about the accident so I am not even sure on the color but I'm told silver.
BLAH.
BLAH.
09-19-06 | 02:47 PM
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It took a lot, but I, too, have added dutret to my ignore list.
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09-19-06 | 02:54 PM
#42
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Originally Posted by sivat
It took a lot, but I, too, have added dutret to my ignore list.
09-19-06 | 03:32 PM
#44
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I'm sure he'll be back soon so that everyone can continue offering sympathy for his reckless endangerment of himself and others.
09-19-06 | 03:35 PM
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onetwentyeight, heal fast brother! Karma is a ***** and it's coming for that driver. Who's at fault is a moot point. There was an accident involving two parties and one of them left, leaving a fellow rider down. Here's to getting better! Hope everything works out okay. What size frame are you looking for? PM me for details!
09-19-06 | 03:36 PM
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Well we gotta make up the deficit since all you offer is hate and condemnation.
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09-19-06 | 03:37 PM
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I am not a lawyer, but it's best not to discuss who's at fault or admit to anything that may or may not have happened without first seeking legal counsel. You wouldn't want to incorrectly incriminate yourself.
09-19-06 | 03:38 PM
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128, come back!
What part of town were you in? Not that it matters. Just glad you're sorta okay. Walking, talking, etc. The scenarios just get worse from there.
Yes, Bernie can fix it. The man can fix everything. (Just don't mention ANY political ANYTHING while you're there.)
Oh yeah, and Dutret, kiss my ass.
What part of town were you in? Not that it matters. Just glad you're sorta okay. Walking, talking, etc. The scenarios just get worse from there.
Yes, Bernie can fix it. The man can fix everything. (Just don't mention ANY political ANYTHING while you're there.)
Oh yeah, and Dutret, kiss my ass.
09-19-06 | 03:38 PM
#49
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I also offer useful advice and, admittedly rarely, sympathy.
It's kinda funny reading this after the "who's responsibility" thread.
It's kinda funny reading this after the "who's responsibility" thread.
09-19-06 | 03:49 PM
#50
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heal fast 128.
dutret... tra, tra, tra, try a little tenderneeeeeeeeeessssssssss!!!!!
dutret... tra, tra, tra, try a little tenderneeeeeeeeeessssssssss!!!!!