KHS flight 100, What does everyone think?, im sure its been mentioned before, but before i hand over my hard earned cash, i thought i might as well ask everyone?

https://www.khsbicycles.com/05_flite_100_07.htm

or is the Fuji Track worth the extra 125(Cdn), i had to say, id like the look of the KHS better, KHS kicks IMO,
also keep in mind this will be my first fixe,

the Fuji track costs more?

down in the U.S. the KHS Flite is typically more expensive. i'd choose the KHS over the Fuji.

I bought a flite 100 frame a while back and really liked it. A couple friends have tried them out as well. I dunno much about the components it comes with though.

frame - nice
fork - nice
wheels - crap
components - meh

Im in the same situation. Im torn between the Flite and Pista. Only about $50 difference. Can someone please make up my mind. Im almost tempted to get the KHS because nobody here has them. But the pista is a classic and you can't really go wrong with it. I like the looks of the Flat gray on the flite though. Help me decide by tomorrow. Im so anxious to get one but am losing sleep over the two.

dide you happen to do a search because I have had three of these and have reviewed them in great detail about 8 times on this forum so here is the shovel dig and you will find tons of info on this bike

also look at the budget fg thread I think the last review I did is in there

i searched but didn't get the answer i so desperately wanted.

flite has the sexiest fork imo.
flite also has the lowest bb and tallest seat tube, resulting in the highest stand over.

get the bike that fit's you best. flite seems to be good for long legs, short torso.
fuji sizes pretty square, if not slightly long on the top (mine is 53 or 54st with a 55tt)
pista is the only one out of the option with true track geo

I like my flite, but as baxtefer said, the stock wheels suck ass and most of the moving components suck. I love the frame to pieces though. Rack and fenders what?

i own both. the pista dropouts are so thin i'm scared it will wear down to nothing if i keep flip/flopping my rear hub.

i like the flite, it's a nice frame, tight geometry. buy just the frame / fork and build the rest up.

i'm so glad i found this thread. i'm new to fixed gears and trying to decide between the pista and the flite. i'm leaning towards the flight b/c my lbs said that it's geometry is more road than track. can anyone confirm this? thanks!

The KHS Flite 100 has full on track geometry, same as the pista. Both are good entry level track bikes, but the KHS is nice on the road because of rack and fender bosses. If you want a 'street track', theres tons available, but maybe not from your LBS. Surly steamroller, IRO angus/mark v, soma rush, kona paddy wagon and a host of others make basically road frames designed to take fixed wheels. Maybe you should ask about some of those. Riding track geometry on the street is fun though, and if you want to hit the track you're set.

thanks shiznaz. i checked out some others too, and thought i had it narrowed down to these two... but we'll see. sorry if i got a little off topic here, but if i remember correctly, i think the guy i was talking to said that track geometry would be less comfortable on the road and handle worse than road geometry. the main reason i was looking for a bike that was closer to road geometry is my ability to handle the bike in a city setting (i don't want to break myself)... is a bike with road geometry that much easier to handle? b/c i test-road a pista and it didn't seem that difficult after i had a chance to get used to it.

the KHS is quite track-y, but i'd say the pista is a bit trackier.
the KHS's bottom bracket is a bit lower and depending on your size, it has slightly slacker angles. But it's far from road-like. But the wheelbase is still short, the headtube is still steep and the fork has 28mm rake.

I definetly notice the difference going from my commuter to my cannondale to the KHS. The KHS is more nimble, a bit easier to throw around, but the 28mm fork keeps things stable. BUT, the Cannondale is definetly more comfortable and more stable.

if you're looking for something more road-like then check out an IRO, or the Bianchi Fremont, or a Lemond Fillmore or a Giant Bowery, or the Cannondale Capo or the Raleigh rush hour, or a Redline 925.......
you have many options.

I have a 2000 KHS Flite.



Lovin it. Although the new ones are ****...

Also, an Iro Angus is a great track geometry. Steer clear of the Mark V - rides more like a road bike...

huh? they're the same geometry.

Thanks for your help, Ive decided on the KHS and ill be going to pick it up soon, Im thinking Tigara brakes and
tektro sx5.0 carbon TT brake lever, and maybe a carbon cowhorn bar, BTW how many people are using RSS feed, i just started now i can live here!!!

ha! it's obviously because it has cable stops.

I love my KHS. The wheels are ****, though. Spend the $50 difference on some clipless pedals. Rock.

I can get either a 2007 or a 2005, the 2005 being 50$ cheaper, So would the 2005 be better , i heard that sungino cranks are better thant the truvative turo that came on the 2005? and i can only get the 2005 in Yellow i cant decide if thats a bad thing

Go for the 2007. It looks cooler, has a threadless fork, and the truvativ crankset that came on my 2006 flite was pooey, so the new sugino cranks on the 2007 can't be any worse. The saddle also looks better on the 2007.

Then again, if you want to throw on some blinged out threaded nitto stem/bars and already have other decent components to swap out, go for the 2005.

go for the 2007.

Aesthetically the 2007 is nicer. it's not obnoxious yellow with giant contrasting decals. The placement of the rack bosses (directly into the seatstays) is cleaner looking.

Functionally, I prefer the threadless setup. The stock threaded headset on the 2005 is pure crap. The cranks look to be the same sugino RDs that are found on lots of other bikes. Probably on par with the Touros, but square taper if that's what you like. The 2007 also looks like it has a nicer saddle and seatpost. The 2005 post is a pig and the saddle is awful.
The wheels are awful regardless of whichever one you choose. I'd definetly redirect some of your carbon-bling money into a decent set of wheels. You've been warned.

Can you tell that the only stock parts left on my KHS are the frame and fork and seatpost binder bolt?

I still have the frame, fork, stem, headset, headset spacers, seatpost and seatpost binder bolt on mine. haha!