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Old 09-13-07 | 12:04 PM
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Schwinn Prologue 56 ST takes a 24" front wheel.
do you have the front wheel?
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Old 09-13-07 | 12:12 PM
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^^ Your stable never fails to impress. Nice score for a bill.
Thanks. I posted my new CX bike on velospace, you should check that one out.

Also had forum member napalmandroses build me a custom steel road bike. Its being painted right now, I'll post photos once I get that.
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Old 09-13-07 | 12:16 PM
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What's the difference between a pursuit bike and a sloping track bike?
I've been trying to get an answer on this for over a year!
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Old 09-13-07 | 01:19 PM
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do you have the front wheel?
Nope, just frame and fork. They are available but I forget where and cheap too.
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Old 09-13-07 | 03:41 PM
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you *******, this is the frame that made me start this thread to begin with! You barely overbid me. I was at work without access to a computer towards the end of the auction so I couldn't fight back. That's alright though, there will be others. Have fun with it.
Sorry man, ironically your thread inspired me to do another ebay sweep for pursuit bikes, and I came up with that. You were smart enough not to post a link, but I knew something was up... I've been hurting ever since I lost a 3Rensho pursuit (24" front) because it went over $900 for just the frame. Then the guy turned it into a piece of **** and put track drops on it. It's in the Jackass FGG Bike of the Day thread 3 or 4 pages back.

As for the bidding, you wouldn't have won anyway, another guy tried to snipe me. It was $34 only a couple hours before the end, then went up to $70 and hour before, then I bid a max of $126 with a minute to go, and employed the double-snipe. $126 was to get a potential sniper to try to outbid me with a higher amount thus wasting his valuable time and distracting him (which happened), but $350 was my max, which I entered during the last 10 seconds. The other guy could only bid once before the end, raising it to $188. Unless that was you.. sorry!

I'm going to have a welder friend of mine replace the dropouts with horizontal ones and remove the brazes and maybe the brake mount between the chainstays. Then I'm going to have it powdercoated white because I know where to get it done for cheap. I'm going to try to get a tubular rear disk wheel and paint it white if it isn't already. I'll use the front tubular and probably put a Selle Italia SLR saddle on it, Sugino RD cranks, Salsa Chainring, EAI cog, Nitto bullhorns and some decent bottom bracket.

Sorry for all the text, I'm pretty damn excited. If any of you have a 700c rear tubular disk that would accept track, or know someone that does, and would be willing to part with it for $200 or less, let me know!
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Old 09-13-07 | 04:11 PM
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I've been hurting ever since I lost a 3Rensho pursuit (24" front) because it went over $900 for just the frame. Then the guy turned it into a piece of **** and put track drops on it. It's in the Jackass FGG Bike of the Day thread 3 or 4 pages back.


I'm going to have a welder friend of mine replace the dropouts with horizontal ones and remove the brazes and maybe the brake mount between the chainstays.
Wow, you're ****ed.

I hope no one sells a ****up like you a tubular disk for under $200.
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Old 09-13-07 | 04:15 PM
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Wow, you're ****ed.

I hope no one sells a ****up like you a tubular disk for under $200.
Finally somebody said what I was thinking. Why would you take of the horizontal drops and braze ons?
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Old 09-13-07 | 04:40 PM
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You just missed one: https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=009




But I got it!! IT'S MINEEEEEE.. gonna need a bit of work with new track dropouts and powdercoat job, but I know some guys...
how much did that guy end up charging for shipping? i was definitely watching that frame. sweet deal with the wheel and post.
 
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Originally Posted by dutret
Wow, you're ****ed.

I hope no one sells a ****up like you a tubular disk for under $200.
I'm ****ed because I bought a frame, seatpost, and wheel on eBay for $188?

I'm a ****up because I desire a tubular disk for under $200?

I have no idea how you arrived at these conclusions. And what do you suggest?

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Finally somebody said what I was thinking. Why would you take of the horizontal drops and braze ons?
It has vertical dropouts, I'm replacing with horizontal (EDIT: track) so I can make it into a track bike and use it at the velodrome. Don't plan on riding it on the street much, so no need for braze ons.

The guy hasn't given me a shipping price yet.

EDIT: $35

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Old 09-14-07 | 07:08 AM
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You need track ends, not vertical drop outs, to ride a bike on the track.

I'm not sure if USCF and UCI let pursuit frames in general racing, but dutret knows the true answer to that.

Or you can look for it in the rule book.
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Old 09-14-07 | 07:11 AM
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I might put a modern drivetrain on it. Thinking 2007 Centaur UltraTorque BB / Cranks, 2007 Centaur Der. (front and rear), and a 2007/8 Campy Compatible Rolf rear wheel.

And I'm using those Athena brakes, not the Deltas.
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Old 09-14-07 | 07:18 AM
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I would wanna see it... here is the colnago i built up...

And you were going to repaint it, if I remember correctly. I still would kick you in the balls for painting that.
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Old 09-14-07 | 08:03 AM
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And you were going to repaint it, if I remember correctly. I still would kick you in the balls for painting that.
HAHA, yeah I know, now that it is built up i dig the paint... it was definitely a bad idea.


Ryand, that thing is gonna look hot...
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Ryand, that thing is gonna look hot...
Thank you.

Those Deltas(NOS - never been installed) aren't going on there, I am actually trying to trade them off for other parts. The Athena brakes in the box are going on it, because they look way better.
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Old 09-14-07 | 08:28 AM
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Nope, just frame and fork. They are available but I forget where and cheap too.
vertical or horizontal dropouts?
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Old 09-14-07 | 08:32 AM
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Thanks. I posted my new CX bike on velospace, you should check that one out.
Have you done a race yet? More SS/FG people should get on cross bikes, it's the hippest new thing!

In related news, I'm doing pretty much the exact same thing with my Basso TT (turning it into a geared bike).

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She's got gears, but I thought I should show you guys. Just needs pedals.

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Have you done a race yet? More SS/FG people should get on cross bikes, it's the hippest new thing!

In related news, I'm doing pretty much the exact same thing with my Basso TT (turning it into a geared bike).

I LOVE your Basso.

First race is next Sunday in Baltimore. I'm thinking about running a 44t ring in the front with a chain guard and the Sram Force in the back though. The 50 / 34 up front doesn't give me a lot of good options for cx.

You shuold do full C-Record on that.
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She's got gears, but I thought I should show you guys. Just needs pedals.

Bobby, you got that?!

I wanted that so bad but couldn't justify two funny bikes.

Once the Guerc is built, we gotta go for a funny bike ride with Spud.
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I'm ****ed because I bought a frame, seatpost, and wheel on eBay for $188?

I'm a ****up because I desire a tubular disk for under $200?

I have no idea how you arrived at these conclusions. And what do you suggest?
You are ****ed because you want a cheap disk as a fashion accessory.
You are ****ed because you are putting any disk on an unraceable bike.
You are ****ed because you spent $188 on a tt bike and now are going to spend god knows how much more making it into a pretend pursuit bike.
Most of all though you are ****ed because you complained about someone ruining a tt bike by putting drops on it when the fake pursuit project you're working on is much worse.


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You need track ends, not vertical drop outs, to ride a bike on the track.

I'm not sure if USCF and UCI let pursuit frames in general racing, but dutret knows the true answer to that.
I don't think you need track ends.
You won't be allowed to start without drops though and unless you are very lucky different sized wheels won't be allowed in mass start stuff either.

Unless you are actually good or someone complains though you can probably get away with an illegal bike in most pursuits just like you could get away with doping.
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I thought you did need fork ends?
You probably do know better though.

This rant is the best rant you've ever had.
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You are ****ed because you want a cheap disk as a fashion accessory.
You are ****ed because you are putting any disk on an unraceable bike.
You are ****ed because you spent $188 on a tt bike and now are going to spend god knows how much more making it into a pretend pursuit bike.
Most of all though you are ****ed because you complained about someone ruining a tt bike by putting drops on it when the fake pursuit project you're working on is much worse.
I got a cheap disc for my pursuit bike last week.
I spent almost twice that on a TT frame and am still putting money into it (trispoke front wheel among other things).

I don't even ride TT, and the bike may end up being too small for me!

But it'll be hot.
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vertical or horizontal dropouts?
Horiz. Just PM me for details and I'll send you a pic.
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Originally Posted by dutret
You are ****ed because you want a cheap disk as a fashion accessory.
You are ****ed because you are putting any disk on an unraceable bike.
You are ****ed because you spent $188 on a tt bike and now are going to spend god knows how much more making it into a pretend pursuit bike.
Most of all though you are ****ed because you complained about someone ruining a tt bike by putting drops on it when the fake pursuit project you're working on is much worse.
I will admit that I do like the way disks look, especially on pursuit bikes. But I also am interested in why they're different from spoked wheels. And to clarify, I don't plan to race it but I will ride it on the track. I want to build up a bike that will be a different experience to ride. Maybe I shouldn't have made fun of the 3Rensho, but I do think that putting drops on it was silly. I don't know what makes it "fake" or "pretend" besides the fact that I won't (can't) race it. But it interests me, and that makes me happy.

You're mean, Dutret. Again, what is it that you would do in my position? What do you suggest?

Ryan- I meant track ends all along. My bad. That Guerciotti is going to be incredible.

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