Splurging... on everything
#27
The only thing I'm not 100% set on is getting the alloy vs. chrome version of the stem and bars. I don't want to mix and match and I love the look of the chrome but I'm wondering how much difference it will make in the feel of the bike with the weight. Any experience you'd care to share?
#30
road curmudgeon, FG rider
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Other than style, why the love for Deep V's on this forum? They are heavy, not sufficiently aero and harsh riding for the street.
BTW what frame are these parts going on? The frame and wheels are the core of any build, spend wisely there.
You didn't mention the tires you plan on using. That's where all your grip is.
BTW what frame are these parts going on? The frame and wheels are the core of any build, spend wisely there.
You didn't mention the tires you plan on using. That's where all your grip is.
#32
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why the team pro over the swift? for that matter, did you consider the arione (or other 'modern' design saddle)? your seatpost choice could be based on two-bolt adjustment, setback, and clamp style over aesthetics, in which case the nitto or thomson is a worthwhile choice.
+1 on RR1.2s if you decide you need a deep-section rim, but as far as i know they only come in black with a machined sidewall.
+1 on RR1.2s if you decide you need a deep-section rim, but as far as i know they only come in black with a machined sidewall.
#33
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#34
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#38
oh my god! someone else noticed the difference between b-123's and b123aa's. dutret is going to tell us all in a completely objective manner why we're wrong and he's the diety of the cycling world.
although dutret, i do agree with you - no need for the fancy mks nuevos if you're not going to use cleats with them.
although dutret, i do agree with you - no need for the fancy mks nuevos if you're not going to use cleats with them.
#40
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if the 123's are the shallow drop ones then that's what i'd get. i'd get the cheaper Al stem instead of steel and get the AL bars too, i like bars to be responsive, not dead. 34cm is waayyyyyy too narrow.
deepVs are heavy. get a nice light rim and light tire and your bike will feel better.
deepVs are heavy. get a nice light rim and light tire and your bike will feel better.
#41
It's been done. But have fun. Pistas need love too. Sugino 75 cranks BB and ring, thomson elite post, IRD stem, nitto bars, Fizik tape and saddle(and what a saddle!) deep Vs 32H laced to phil high flange hubs.


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#42
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those aren't sugino 75 cranks on that pista...and don't harm the paint on that merckx you got hanjin.
#45
Just buy this Pista. 1600.00!!?? it must be the best!!
https://cgi.ebay.com/Bianchi-Pista-Tr...QQcmdZViewItem
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#46
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Just buy this Pista. 1600.00!!?? it must be the best!!
https://cgi.ebay.com/Bianchi-Pista-Tr...QQcmdZViewItem
https://cgi.ebay.com/Bianchi-Pista-Tr...QQcmdZViewItem
#47
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Bikes: Cannondale R500, Specialized Hardrock
Too harsh, guys..
But they're right about almost everything.. they make bars 34cm wide? I hope that was a typo, you certainly don't want bars that narrow.
1/8" drivetrain will be ideally be little smoother and more efficient, 3/32" will ideally be quieter and stronger. In practicality, you probably won't notice the difference in smoothness, and unless you get the right cog and chain (PC-68 and EAI worked wonders for me), then it might not be too quiet. And you probably know all the issues with chainring abundance, so I won't go into that.
I would definitely reconsider the rims. They're 500g each! That's more than two pounds in your rims alone! They are very tough though, although you can get lighter rims that are also tough. Phils are sweet, don't let anyone put down your Phils. But if you really want to slurge, get LeVeL hubs.. Hubjub has them.
And really, no need for the steel/chrome nonsense. You can get polished aluminum that's almost as shiny without the weight (and price) penalty. As others have said, Al rides a little nicer in the front end.
Either way, you'll build a sweet bike. I wouldn't be criticizing if you didn't ask for it
Now all you need is a new frame...
But they're right about almost everything.. they make bars 34cm wide? I hope that was a typo, you certainly don't want bars that narrow.
1/8" drivetrain will be ideally be little smoother and more efficient, 3/32" will ideally be quieter and stronger. In practicality, you probably won't notice the difference in smoothness, and unless you get the right cog and chain (PC-68 and EAI worked wonders for me), then it might not be too quiet. And you probably know all the issues with chainring abundance, so I won't go into that.
I would definitely reconsider the rims. They're 500g each! That's more than two pounds in your rims alone! They are very tough though, although you can get lighter rims that are also tough. Phils are sweet, don't let anyone put down your Phils. But if you really want to slurge, get LeVeL hubs.. Hubjub has them.
And really, no need for the steel/chrome nonsense. You can get polished aluminum that's almost as shiny without the weight (and price) penalty. As others have said, Al rides a little nicer in the front end.
Either way, you'll build a sweet bike. I wouldn't be criticizing if you didn't ask for it
Now all you need is a new frame...
#48
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#49
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Bikes: , Jury Bike, Moto Outcast 29, Spicer standard track frame and spicer custom steel sprint frame.
Tell me if I miss anything:
Crank/BB = Sugino 75 (Silver)
Chainring = Sugino Zen 48t - a 47t would be better more skid patches
Chain = Izumi model V Super Toughness - sram pc-1 is just as strong and an eighth the price
Cog = EAI Superstar 15t and 17t (one for whatever, one for going fast)
Stem = Nitto (Chrome/Steel) Jaguar 100mm
Bars = Nitto (Chrome/Steel) B-123 34cm -right I doubt your shoulders are that narrow
Pedals = MKS gr-9's
Toe Straps = Toshi Double (Red)
Saddle = Brooks Team Pro (Chrome/Honey) I know, it sort of clashes... - don't forget the seat cover
Hubs = Phil Wood
Wheels = Velocity Deep V (Red) - junk rims get a set of open pros if you want something really nice and sturdy
Fork = 1" Threaded Spicer Crowned - why not a tange fork they are nicer and chrome
I have thought about getting the Nitto Jaguar seatpost as well, but since it would be the purely asthetic purchase (I'm not nearly enough rider to need or notice that) I think I'm going to pass. So, save for the frame and the stock seatpost, I'm upgrading everything. I'm going to have a bad ass pista.
Crank/BB = Sugino 75 (Silver)
Chainring = Sugino Zen 48t - a 47t would be better more skid patches
Chain = Izumi model V Super Toughness - sram pc-1 is just as strong and an eighth the price
Cog = EAI Superstar 15t and 17t (one for whatever, one for going fast)
Stem = Nitto (Chrome/Steel) Jaguar 100mm
Bars = Nitto (Chrome/Steel) B-123 34cm -right I doubt your shoulders are that narrow
Pedals = MKS gr-9's
Toe Straps = Toshi Double (Red)
Saddle = Brooks Team Pro (Chrome/Honey) I know, it sort of clashes... - don't forget the seat cover
Hubs = Phil Wood
Wheels = Velocity Deep V (Red) - junk rims get a set of open pros if you want something really nice and sturdy
Fork = 1" Threaded Spicer Crowned - why not a tange fork they are nicer and chrome
I have thought about getting the Nitto Jaguar seatpost as well, but since it would be the purely asthetic purchase (I'm not nearly enough rider to need or notice that) I think I'm going to pass. So, save for the frame and the stock seatpost, I'm upgrading everything. I'm going to have a bad ass pista.
there I fixed it made it more suitable for daily riding however the bars mm maybe b-125s since I am assuming this bike will never see a track hell it will probably end up locked up outside of a starbucks or hip bar trolling for chicks
#50
don't you have blue deep Vs?
and if hes running a 48 front and a 17 rear cog I thought that was more skid patches than if you ran 47 /17
he is a skinny ***** but I have to agree that 38cm would be a better fit and still look KOOL.
and a sram doesn't come in gold and black.
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