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I Love My Windsor Hour!

Old 09-23-08, 08:04 PM
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Damn, I was supposed to get my bike today, but I didn't know you have to be there to sign for it. I was hoping to come home to a big box on my porch. Now, I don't know when to expect a re-delivery so that I can exclaim, "I love my Windsor Hour!".
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Okay, so that big long post didn't answer my question if it's measured c-c, or c-t.

I understand that's not the only measurement to look at, but it's the only measurement I'm really unsure of.
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Your question was answered on the top of page 15 of this thread but more importantly on the geometry chart on the Bikesdirect site here.
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Originally Posted by bigbris1
Your question was answered on the top of page 15 of this thread but more importantly on the geometry chart on the Bikesdirect site here.
Thanks, I didn't go through all 17 pages of this thread obviously.

And, well, that chart actually does NOT state what sizing they use. It says the difference between c-c and c-t, but it doesn't say which method they use on the actual pull down menu to purchase a bike. At least not last time I checked.

Thanks though.
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I understand what you mean, their chart gives measurements but it doesn't specify in relation to what size. I figured it out & saw that the c-t measurements correspond to their offered sizes.



In other news, I switched to Kevlar tires in preparation for the new frame:

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Originally Posted by bigbris1
I understand what you mean, their chart gives measurements but it doesn't specify in relation to what size. I figured it out & saw that the c-t measurements correspond to their offered sizes.



In other news, I switched to Kevlar tires in preparation for the new frame:


Nice bike, what kind of saddle you got there?
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Selle San Marco Ponza. You want it? I just bought another saddle.

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Originally Posted by bigbris1
Selle San Marco Ponza. You want it? I just bought another saddle.


Maybe, is it comfy? How much?
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It is much more comfy than the stock seat even thought it appears thinner. $20 + ship
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Originally Posted by bigbris1
I understand what you mean, their chart gives measurements but it doesn't specify in relation to what size. I figured it out & saw that the c-t measurements correspond to their offered sizes.



In other news, I switched to Kevlar tires in preparation for the new frame:

Nice one man. How do you like your new tires?
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Originally Posted by bigbris1
Weren't you trying to sell this guy on ebay?
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it's a nice bike...getting tired of seeing it all the time though
 
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Originally Posted by jpdesjar
it's a nice bike...getting tired of seeing it all the time though
+1 lol
and how come you went with white bar tape? imo, black looks better
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Originally Posted by Coreyviper
Nice one man. How do you like your new tires?
Loving them.

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Weren't you trying to sell this guy on ebay?
Yeah, but since I changed my order I have to wait until mid October at the latest for my new frame.

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it's a nice bike...getting tired of seeing it all the time though
Just trying to give different option views for perspective Hour owners. I know posting pics have pushed folks to buy this bike.

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+1 lol
and how come you went with white bar tape? imo, black looks better
Went with white because I'm getting a sky blue frame, but I'm rethinking the decision.
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Originally Posted by bigbris1
I understand what you mean, their chart gives measurements but it doesn't specify in relation to what size. I figured it out & saw that the c-t measurements correspond to their offered sizes.
The Hour's (and several other BD bikes) center to top measurement is center to top of the collar - not the top of the top tube. That is why there is 3cm difference between the C-C and C-T for those that list both. On traditional lugged bikes, the seat tube doesn't go above the top tube, but on mass produced tigged frames, the top of the seat tube is a couple cm above the top of the top tube, and for these bikes the C-T measureent is to the top of the top tube, where it stops above the top tube.

So, based on more traditional sizing, either add 1 cm to the c-c numbers, or subtract 2cm from the t-t.
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just received and assembled my windsor hour. there was a small bag that came in the box with some screws and a couple of sticky patch. what are those things for?
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I believe those are for the reflectors. I didn't use them though, and I haven't fallen apart on the street yet!
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Old 09-26-08, 06:15 AM
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I purchased a new/used Windsor a few weeks back (the guy that I got it from never built it up). It was the matte gray, and I didn't like the color, or the welds. So it is currently having the weld joints filled to make it look more like a fillet-brazed frame (nice, smooth tube joints). I will post photos soon of what the he!! it is I'm doing. After the 'bodywork', it'll be getting a coat of Toyota's TigerEye tri-coat brown with aqua accents.

By the way, nice thread. It's been very informative.
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I just ordered mine last night.
I can't wait to get it.
What is the average shipping for bikesdirect.com
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i believe it took 5 days for both of my BD bikes to the CA bay area.
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took mine about 10 days to get to the bay area after initial purchase. ups didn't deliver it until 8 pm the day of scheduled delivery. i was a little pissed after waiting around all day for the delivery, but as soon as the bike was delivered, i felt much better. it is a really nice bike.
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I ordered on the 21st, and mine was here today. I got to my house and had the note saying that UPS attempted to deliver, so I ran the UPS guy down, and signed for my package on the side of the road - 5 miles from my house. That's dedication.

Overall impressions - Solid bike. Good for the money. Not as heavy as everyone makes it out to seem.
- Cheap stem and bars (I've got a Dimension stem and bar to install tomorrow).
- Wheels/tires are okay, but will be upgraded.

And I'll probably end up going to clipless pedals. I have the damnedest time trying to get my foot into the pedal, I just said screw it.

I took it for a ride around town this evening. Rides much nicer than my Schwinn Hybrid (but I miss the fatties on my Schwinn already)

Here she is!
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Do you know how much it weighs? Like around.
So you got lucky and got the threadless stem.
I don't understand the quill stem, how does it work?
Thanks.
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UPS says the box was 30lbs. I'll say it weighed a good 4-5lbs with all the foam and padding and crap stuffed back in, so my guess by picking it up is somewhere in the 22-25lbs range. It's light enough to lift up and carry up those steep hills.

And to go along with the reports of the rear cog - I have a 15t.

A quill stem is an older style stem that is still used on a lot of track bikes and more commonly on inexpensive bikes. It is just a one piece unit to the threadless stem's two. It's all personal taste. I like the look of the threadless, so I rock it. The quills look funny to me.
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Yeah i agree the quill does look funny, i way rather have a threadless.
Is it better to get the 15t or 16t?
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