Thanks for generalizing. Maybe we should move it to BMX.

Foo

Yeah for the record I am just about to turn 22 and I don't agree with any of this "car-free" bull****.


Cars are a necessary form of transportation. If my girlfriend falls down the stairs and needs to go to the hospital with a broken leg, I'm not gonna pay for an ambulance, and I'm definitely not gonna throw her on my handlebars and bike her there.

I bike as much as possible, and walk when with people who don't ride, but at the end of the day, a car is necessary at times. I'm not going to throw the ingredients for a big dinner for my friends into my bag, and I'm not going to carry 4 cases of beer home in my bag on my bike. That's what the car is for.

get a cab.

I carry groceries and more than 4 cases of beer home by bicycle quite regularly.

such is life the big city - it's great - cars are practically unnecessary in daily life here. must suck to be in the suburbs / middle of nowhere where city planning and development failed by planning solely around the auto.

eventually, you wont be able to drive or at least driving will be a luxury that most people cannot enjoy . so the sooner you adjust to a car-free life, the better you'll turn out and less of a jolt it will be. research peak oil.

agreed. well, except i've never carried more than 18 beers in a single trip, i don't think.

I live in the the capital of VA.

I dont have a rack on my bike nor do I plan to put one on, so I'm not going to carry 4 cases of beer on my back. On the same tangent, I don't believe that you carry 4+ 24packs of beer on your bicycle with groceries. I just don't see that happening.


Even more importantly, get a cab? Seriously? That's the stupidest logic I've ever heard. Yeah in an emergency, get a cab.


What's your answer for how I transport my race car, on my trailer, to the track? A big ass cab?


Oops, I forgot that cars are evil so that shouldn't even happen.

https://www.firstbornbikes.com/cutthroat_page/about.htm

Richmond is pretty small.

Cargo trailer. Not that complicated.


No one I live with owns a car. Only two or three friends own cars and live further away. Basically, we live car-free in the city and if an emergency strikes, I can easily walk outside my apartment and hail a taxi in no more than 2 mins - just like I've done before (dislocated shoulder). I could also easily walk to the nearest hospital - distances in the city are quite small. Two miles is a long distance in such a dense environment.


I dont believe in the concept of good or evil, honestly, and I certainly do not believe that a material object is inherently good or evil. However, I do think automobiles are socially problematic and economically unsustainable when used as they've have been since the post-World War II boom - the sooner you learn this, the better off you'll be.

How about CAT threads on a bike forum? Seriously though, we've had pets and music since I signed up, so I don't think the OT personal-interest threads themselves are that harmful. Some people like to tinker with mechanical things and fighting about it like this isn't going to change anyone's minds about it. If you don't like it, you can choose to skip it. Cars are problematic and the car vs. bike argument will go on for sure, but I don't think people should invade the car threads just to pick a fight. BUT for those who start a "my car and my bike" thread, why not list it as OT out of courtesy?

OP said nothing about cars = evil. it should be pointed out that this isn't showyourmediocrecaroffforums.net, it's bikeforums.net...

let's work on reading titles before posting.

and to OP, yeah-- **** is dorky. users come here to read about bikes, not guitars or magic the gathering decks or whatever. there's a "foo" section for off topic stuff. what's unfortunate are that the mods here are too clueless to know how to mod...

i suppose this is what happens when people start substituting online forums for actual social interaction.

What a PECKER!

Maybe just don't click on the Thread?

errr cuz cars are cool. This isn't the "living Car Free" forum. I love my cars, and i love saving money on gas by bikeing. That money can be redirected to my cars. I don't live in the suburbs but public transportation is terrible here. Most people need cars to get around in a timely fashion. I would not feel comfortable toting my 3 yr. old son around in traffic on my bike. My wife usually does the picking up and dropping off so we only use one of our 3 cars at the moment.

i was heavy into cars (VWs) years before I got into bikes. Cars are one of my hobbies and the thought of selling my cars is not a happy one for me. That said all 3 of our cars get over 30mpg.

dork.

People hate Flo? She's pretty hot. Bring back Flo.