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Old 01-29-10 | 10:20 PM
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Some very unique track frames from ROBERTO BICICLETAS - a set on Flickr



















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Old 01-29-10 | 10:23 PM
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and more!
















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Old 01-29-10 | 10:50 PM
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Old 01-30-10 | 06:35 PM
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Some of these bikes look cool but I would really like to see some more KILOS in here!
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Old 01-31-10 | 01:45 AM
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Old 01-31-10 | 02:34 AM
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I can't tell if he's being dense or not...

There's an entire thread devoted to that. Kilos are hardly porn.
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Old 01-31-10 | 03:00 AM
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...he started a thread titled "Tire tubes needed for dawes sst" asking what size tubes he needs and what valve is on the tube. I imagine he's immensely dense.
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Old 01-31-10 | 05:59 PM
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To bad no one knows what the hell you attached from your pc...

Noobs..

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Old 02-02-10 | 10:01 AM
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Old 02-02-10 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by spcialzdspksman
Some very unique track frames from ROBERTO BICICLETAS - a set on Flickr
Love this one
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Old 02-02-10 | 06:31 PM
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Old 02-02-10 | 07:04 PM
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Hetchins lugs.





Anti-Pron = Hetchins + bad powdercoat

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Old 02-02-10 | 09:28 PM
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weener-kill.
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Old 02-03-10 | 12:16 AM
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gonna throw it out there

lugs are immensely overrated.
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Old 02-03-10 | 03:31 AM
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These are so sick.

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Old 02-03-10 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by LupinIII
gonna throw it out there

lugs are immensely overrated.
Uh huh...

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Old 02-03-10 | 07:21 AM
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...he started a thread titled "Tire tubes needed for dawes sst" asking what size tubes he needs and what valve is on the tube. I imagine he's immensely dense.
carefull. If he reaches critical mass he will supernova
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Old 02-03-10 | 07:53 AM
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Old 02-03-10 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by LupinIII
gonna throw it out there

lugs are immensely overrated.
Can ya throw out a reason why, traditional craftsmanship aside?

Hetchins bisexual dropout


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Old 02-03-10 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LupinIII
gonna throw it out there

lugs are immensely overrated.
So are TIG welds.

To each his own. I really appreciate the time and effort that goes into hand building a lugged frame.

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Old 02-03-10 | 10:43 AM
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Old 02-03-10 | 11:35 AM
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not a fan of tig either, brazing is where it's at (i am slightly biased though but i love the brazing on my peloton)

simple lugs are fine though. i dislike the over-ornateness of the hetchins lugs.
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Old 02-03-10 | 04:11 PM
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which do you think takes more skill?
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Old 02-03-10 | 04:14 PM
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which do you think takes more skill?
Is that a trick question?
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Old 02-03-10 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by helloamerican
which do you think takes more skill?
The image I posted is a Llewellyn seat cluster that is based on a Ron Cooper design... many frame builders have adopted this seat cluster design but it requires great skill to do properly.

Ron Cooper is considered to be one of the greatest frame builders of all time and says it takes him two days to build a frame using free hand brazing (he uses no jigs) and you will not find a file mark on any of his work. This stems from his having 60 years of experience in building world class frames.

He also says he did not consider himself to be skilled enough to set out on his own until he had been building frames for 20 years.

A frame like a Hetchins could require hundreds and hundreds of hours of work and some frame builders only produce 30 frames a year because of the work involved.

My Cooper has rather simple lug work and is not extravagant in it's lug details but is the work of a master... not only in how it looks but how well it performs.

I have seen the work of many master builders and whether it is lugged, tig welded, or fillet brazed the amount of work and experience required to build such frames is stunning.
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