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#2503
#2504
No lugs? No hugs.
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,115
Likes: 1
From: Vancouver, Canada
Bikes: '85 Miyata 310, '06 GT Performer
#2505
#2506
I can't tell if he's being dense or not...
There's an entire thread devoted to that. Kilos are hardly porn.
There's an entire thread devoted to that. Kilos are hardly porn.
#2507
...he started a thread titled "Tire tubes needed for dawes sst" asking what size tubes he needs and what valve is on the tube. I imagine he's immensely dense.
#2508
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 261
Likes: 0
From: San Jose. Ca
Bikes: surly Steamroller, Mercier Kilo TT pro
To bad no one knows what the hell you attached from your pc...
Noobs..
Host the image correctly
Noobs..
Host the image correctly
#2512
:)
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,391
Likes: 1
From: duluth
Bikes: '07 Pista, '09 Fantom Cross Uno, '8? Miyata, '67 Stingray, '0? Zoo mod trials, Tallbike, Chopper, '73 Schwinn Collegiate, '67 Triumph Chopper, '69 CB350, '58 BSA Spitfire, '73 CB450
#2513
#2514
Senior Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,014
Likes: 0
From: Davis/Lafayette, CA
Bikes: too many
gonna throw it out there
lugs are immensely overrated.
lugs are immensely overrated.
#2515
#2520
:)
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,391
Likes: 1
From: duluth
Bikes: '07 Pista, '09 Fantom Cross Uno, '8? Miyata, '67 Stingray, '0? Zoo mod trials, Tallbike, Chopper, '73 Schwinn Collegiate, '67 Triumph Chopper, '69 CB350, '58 BSA Spitfire, '73 CB450
#2521
:)
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,391
Likes: 1
From: duluth
Bikes: '07 Pista, '09 Fantom Cross Uno, '8? Miyata, '67 Stingray, '0? Zoo mod trials, Tallbike, Chopper, '73 Schwinn Collegiate, '67 Triumph Chopper, '69 CB350, '58 BSA Spitfire, '73 CB450
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#2522
Senior Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,014
Likes: 0
From: Davis/Lafayette, CA
Bikes: too many
not a fan of tig either, brazing is where it's at (i am slightly biased though but i love the brazing on my peloton)
simple lugs are fine though. i dislike the over-ornateness of the hetchins lugs.
simple lugs are fine though. i dislike the over-ornateness of the hetchins lugs.
#2524
Veteran Racer


Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,866
Likes: 923
From: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
Bikes: 34 frames + 82 wheels
#2525
The image I posted is a Llewellyn seat cluster that is based on a Ron Cooper design... many frame builders have adopted this seat cluster design but it requires great skill to do properly.
Ron Cooper is considered to be one of the greatest frame builders of all time and says it takes him two days to build a frame using free hand brazing (he uses no jigs) and you will not find a file mark on any of his work. This stems from his having 60 years of experience in building world class frames.
He also says he did not consider himself to be skilled enough to set out on his own until he had been building frames for 20 years.
A frame like a Hetchins could require hundreds and hundreds of hours of work and some frame builders only produce 30 frames a year because of the work involved.
My Cooper has rather simple lug work and is not extravagant in it's lug details but is the work of a master... not only in how it looks but how well it performs.
I have seen the work of many master builders and whether it is lugged, tig welded, or fillet brazed the amount of work and experience required to build such frames is stunning.
Ron Cooper is considered to be one of the greatest frame builders of all time and says it takes him two days to build a frame using free hand brazing (he uses no jigs) and you will not find a file mark on any of his work. This stems from his having 60 years of experience in building world class frames.
He also says he did not consider himself to be skilled enough to set out on his own until he had been building frames for 20 years.
A frame like a Hetchins could require hundreds and hundreds of hours of work and some frame builders only produce 30 frames a year because of the work involved.
My Cooper has rather simple lug work and is not extravagant in it's lug details but is the work of a master... not only in how it looks but how well it performs.
I have seen the work of many master builders and whether it is lugged, tig welded, or fillet brazed the amount of work and experience required to build such frames is stunning.





































