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Shorts or liners?

Old 03-17-10 | 12:46 AM
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Shorts or liners?

I do about 10mi daily commuting around town and school, plus 20mi+ rides twice a week or more and my taint is getting pretty damn tired. I wear jeans usually and ride on a cervelo road style seat. I'd like to find something to wear under my jeans as the large majority of my biking is to or from places I'd prefer not to be just wearing bike shorts. I assume liners are the way to go, but I've never used either so I figured I'd ask here.
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Old 03-17-10 | 02:30 AM
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Liners are the way to go if you still wanna keep the "non spandex" look. I wear a full kit when im on my roadie and liners with shorts when I ride my fixed. I dunno, its a mental thing. I like to go all out with the "look" when I'm on my road bike, chances are I'm not running errands and use clipless. On my fixed I just wear chucks and use pedals with metal clips. I prefer the liners under because they offer some padding. I wouldnt recommend wearing them all day and such just because they can feel gross at the end of the day... ultimately its up to you.. your bottom might get calloused up with all your riding, but if you still wanna wear jeans, liners are the way to go.. Hope that helps! On a side note, liners are usually cheaper than spandex outers too.
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Old 03-17-10 | 10:31 AM
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FWIW, the single best thing I ever did to ease the discomfort of commuting in street clothes was to ditch the plastic saddle and go with a Brooks. I used to get abrasion marks in the crotch of my pants, and I dealt with a chronic (if minor) saddle sore. When I slapped on a Brooks, all of that went away. And I can wear real underwear, not a cycling diaper.
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10-20 miles is a pretty trivial distance to be getting saddle problems regardless of what you're wearing. Are you certain the saddle height and angle are appropriate?
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Old 03-17-10 | 12:00 PM
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Huskier people, like myself, have friction issues. I usually commute with a bib and jersey under some looser fitting clothes, roughly 20 miles a day.
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Old 03-17-10 | 12:33 PM
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I just got some cheap liners to wear under my shorts or sweats for longer rides. It is a little more comfortable but definitely not the magic solution to saddle problems. I am still breaking in a new leather saddle and adjusting it properly has made a bigger difference.
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Old 03-17-10 | 03:39 PM
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I tried a liner once--- felt like I was wearing a diaper the rest of the day. I change clothes wherever I ride (if it is beyond street clothes distance).
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Old 03-17-10 | 03:54 PM
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I second the use of the Swobo liners. Good stuff. I wear them under cut off dickies for rides over 25 miles.
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Old 03-18-10 | 04:08 AM
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Yea my issue isn't really with the daily commute its on those +20mi rides. I ride a couple different bikes depending on where I'm going/time of day so I can't throw down a couple hundred bucks on a few brooks saddles. Thanks for the input everyone.
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Old 03-18-10 | 07:50 AM
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I usually wear jeans and do 15 miles to and from work. The combination that works for me is a WTB Speed-V saddle and some athletic type under shorts (the kind with a cup holder, minus the cup) they're stitched in a way that there's no seams for friction and they fit snugly, so the won't bunch up. Haven't had a saddle sore in years.
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Old 03-18-10 | 06:37 PM
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Get a fizik arione and your troubles should go away. Ive done 35 mile rides and hundred plus weekends with no chamios or liners and no problem. I do wear bibs on longer rides now but usually wear boxers and either jeans or dickie shorts. Check ebay for ariones - you can find a used one in good condition for pretty cheap.
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Old 03-18-10 | 07:26 PM
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I wear lycra bike shorts underneath normal shorts on longer rides in the summer on the FG, and impact shorts with chamois underneath regular shorts and/or jeans for DH/FR. Works just fine.
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Old 03-19-10 | 09:37 PM
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Get a fizik arione and your troubles should go away. Ive done 35 mile rides and hundred plus weekends with no chamios or liners and no problem. I do wear bibs on longer rides now but usually wear boxers and either jeans or dickie shorts. Check ebay for ariones - you can find a used one in good condition for pretty cheap.
ditto the arione, i got one off ebay for 40 bucks! used....but in great condition.
although before that i bought a pair of fox ranger shorts with the chamois liner, those help too.
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Old 03-20-10 | 06:56 AM
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I nearly always wear the lycra. Bib shorts and jerseys. But when I'm riding, it's to be riding; not to get somewhere. Except work. And then I change clothes when I get there.

In the earlier threads that dealt with this very topic, there were lots of links to sites selling hipster-approved cycling apparel. Some of it quite nice, particularly the colder weather stuff.
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I have lined biked shorts. I rarely wear hem as~is and usually wear them under my regular clothes; rain pants; snow pants; cut offs; cargo shorts, etc. my favorites are he expensive ones that are long, in that they end just above my knee. you can also change your saddle.
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Old 05-02-10 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by veganwar
Get a fizik arione and your troubles should go away. Ive done 35 mile rides and hundred plus weekends with no chamios or liners and no problem. I do wear bibs on longer rides now but usually wear boxers and either jeans or dickie shorts. Check ebay for ariones - you can find a used one in good condition for pretty cheap.
nashbar has a copy of this seat they sell under their name. They had a sale on saddles one time, so i was able to get it for something like $20, so i ordered one. I gotta say its Ok on comfort. How can the fizik, which looks to be identical in design, be that much more comfortable.
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Old 05-02-10 | 08:18 PM
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Get a brooks saddle.
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Originally Posted by ortcutt
FWIW, the single best thing I ever did to ease the discomfort of commuting in street clothes was to ditch the plastic saddle and go with a Brooks. I used to get abrasion marks in the crotch of my pants, and I dealt with a chronic (if minor) saddle sore. When I slapped on a Brooks, all of that went away. And I can wear real underwear, not a cycling diaper.
^^^^ I agree with this 100%.... and I'm a bigger dude @ 255 lbs.... jeans or shorts w/ boxers no problems at all.... made riding my bike so much more enjoyable..!!
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10 minute commute.. Just jeans and your underwear.. A 20 mile ride , round trip.?.. Lycra..
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Performance also has a liner, maybe something to try for cheap.

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Originally Posted by vledaD
nashbar has a copy of this seat they sell under their name. They had a sale on saddles one time, so i was able to get it for something like $20, so i ordered one. I gotta say its Ok on comfort. How can the fizik, which looks to be identical in design, be that much more comfortable.
I have the Nashbar one and it's alright, but I've ridden the Fizik and it's better.
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go full lycra!

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