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Old 07-27-10 | 07:32 PM
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Roady frames to SS!!!!!!!!

Met a roadie who actually lubed my chain today WITH HIS lube!!!!!! met him at the LBS lol.

But yeah. The bike he had (Madone 6 series) inspired me to build a ss off a road bicycle frame. (eccentric hub/chain tensioner).

QUESTION: Anyone ever BOUGHT a road bike frame (no old-school conversions count) such as a Look 586 or like a Trek 2.1 (Oviously very expensive- giving you the idea of what im getting at) and converted to a ss?

I know its a crazy idea. Buying a road frame like Cinelli Estrada or like a new Carbon Fiber framed bike and converting to a ss.

I mean, like building a Road Bike. Something that when people see it, they don't see the FG/SS scene. They see the Roadie scene. But the catch: Its a singlespeed.

I swear. Like for example, buying a Cervelo R3 (https://www.cervelo.com/en_us/bikes/2010/R3/) and adding Bontrager Wheels (sexiest wheelset Ive ever seen- https://bontrager.com/model/08260).

OMg guys im dreaming so big right now. I just wanted to throw this idea out to see what you guys thought
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Old 07-27-10 | 07:39 PM
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your definition of cool varies day to day. windsor hour->722ts->singlespeed with aggro geometry->cervelo with eccentric hub. tomorrow it will be a fixed recumbent with a trispoke and disc.
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Old 07-27-10 | 07:41 PM
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Lol. I have to much time on my hands to think. Ill settle on something eventually. But haha. Just something that randomly hit my head and again. Had to share with you guys XD.

Lol. Your very observant, have been stalking me, or you have a really good memory to be able to follow my path along what I thought was cool. i thought they were all cool. Still think that all of them are cool. Now its just a matter of figuring out which cool one Ill grab for sure lol.
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Why?
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Why not! is a better question (or exclamation). Carbon good material? Haha.
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There are track frames made of carbon fibre and they allow you to adjust chain tension...is there specifically you want from a road frame?
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If you know you want a SS/FG bike, what's wrong with getting a frame designed for that purpose?
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Old 07-27-10 | 07:57 PM
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Wheel options?? 130mm wheels + spacers. Plus. Im tired of seeing Deep Vs, DP18s, B43s......I like a lot of the wheelsets roadies use, despite the fact that lots of them are hella bank.

In any case, chaning out cogs seems easier on those types of hubs (where the freesheel mechanism is actually built into the hub) rather than trying to switch freewheels out by constantly unscrewing and screwing on freewheels.

Like I said. Just an idea. =].

Plus. Since I wanna run it as a singlespeed....lots of road frames are now offering internal cable routing. I hated C clamps and zip ties, and even with cable stops, I think taht internal cable routing looks lots cleanter than cable stops.
And that gives more aero advantage.

Carbon lighter than steel and alum.....

Road frames. Hmm....other than that, I kinda reasoned that using frames with vertical dropouts with either eccentric hubs or chain tensioners, would be a lot easier than using frames with track dropouts. There would be virtually no effort in centering the wheel. Just drop the wheel into the verticla dropout and tighten the hub or the tensioner. Whichever one you would be using.

If you wanted to go to gears, the option WOULD be open to you, although I probably wouldn't do it.

Plus, its something different. Its not something you'd see your average every day hipster riding.

I just think it opens a whole new door to lots more possibilities.

I THINK THE MAIN REASON IS THE OPTIONS TAHT ARE OPEN TO YOU....STAY SS OR GO WITH GEARS ETC.

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If you know you want a SS/FG bike, what's wrong with getting a frame designed for that purpose?
Why convert old road bikes? =p
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Here ya go. Even has internal cable routing, and you never have to adjust or lube the chain. https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...istrictcarbon/
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Not so crazy ? But why would you need a road frame for a SS/FG ?

https://www.fujibikes.com/Specialty/T...-Frameset.aspx
https://www.fujibikes.com/Specialty/Track/Track.aspx
https://www.fujibikes.com/Specialty/Track/TrackComp.aspx

Fuji isn't the only one out there either.

https://www.engagerc.com/servlet/the-...ck-Bike/Detail

I think my biggest fear with these types of bikes, would be the worry that someone would steal your nice ride ?
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Lol you've solved my problem. Gracias TT. Vaya con Dios por que no puedes hacer nada sin Dios!
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Maybe you're a visionary but I do not get your logic...
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if you like cervello, the t1 looks (ugly. im sorry). at 1200.
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Muahaha. Visionaries are often misunderstood until all that they do has come to completion. this one probably won't come to completionin which case you'll remain in a state of not getting my "logic". Cheers =]
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Old 07-27-10 | 08:16 PM
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Lol. I have to much time on my hands to think. Ill settle on something eventually. But haha. Just something that randomly hit my head and again. Had to share with you guys XD.

Lol. Your very observant, have been stalking me, or you have a really good memory to be able to follow my path along what I thought was cool. i thought they were all cool. Still think that all of them are cool. Now its just a matter of figuring out which cool one Ill grab for sure lol.
I've been on the forums alot this past month.

And I stalk you.

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i believe the langster was made for this reason.
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i don't understand why people don't realize your reasoning for wanting a SS road bike and not a track bike. the geometry is totally different.

i have a Giant TCR 2R that i bought (as a frame) and built up as a SS. i love it. i use a tensioner though, no eccentric hub. able to use a really light rear wheel that way.
here it is, minus the tensioner and pedals. you get the idea.
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Old 07-28-10 | 07:56 AM
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Check my old threads about doing a conversion build with an eccentric hub. It is a very nice solution to the vertical dropout problem.

Someone before me had done the same thing with a CAAD9 and it was beautiful.
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i don't understand why people don't realize your reasoning for wanting a SS road bike and not a track bike. the geometry is totally different.
In that case, every bike manufacturer's track frames has different geometry and some are virtually indistinguishable from a road frame, others have totally different geometry within the track frame category. The vintage Fuji road bike I have has a straight top tube, even the atb bike I have is a flatter top tube than what today's designs have incorporated for mtb/atb frames. Both are/remain mutli-gear. And going with different front forks with various rakes and angles is going to change the bike's stance and road manners too.

As for throwing a chain tensioner on one (SS/FG that is), that defeats the concept of a direct drive bike, crank gear wheel to rear gear ? The first tensioner increases chain length, adds weight to the bike, creates an inefficiency in the drive train.

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Originally Posted by ph4nt0mf1ng3rs
Met a roadie who actually lubed my chain today WITH HIS lube!!!!!! met him at the LBS lol.
Just so you know, that sounded really gay! LOL! ;0)
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Originally Posted by ph4nt0mf1ng3rs
Muahaha. Visionaries are often misunderstood until all that they do has come to completion.
k, but there's nothing visionary here. Go for it, screw everyone else, I don't understand why you had to ask since we've seen this a million times.
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Old 07-28-10 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ph4nt0mf1ng3rs
Wheel options?? 130mm wheels + spacers.
k, good option



And that gives more aero advantage.
no
Carbon lighter than steel and alum.....
depends.

Plus, its something different. Its not something you'd see your average every day hipster riding.
So this is about hipsters?

I THINK THE MAIN REASON IS THE OPTIONS TAHT ARE OPEN TO YOU....STAY SS OR GO WITH GEARS ETC.
maybe
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he doesnt want road geometry, which is sensible. he just wants the road look, which is dumb.

just get gears.

also, i have deep road wheels, and shallow fixed wheels.

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he doesnt want road geometry, which is sensible. he just wants the road look, which is dumb.
I agree. I am not following the OP's logic (if I could be so generous).

Until recently, if you wanted a SS/FG with road geometry, brake cable and bottle cage bosses, and front and rear brakes, your choices were building up an older road bike (like I and many others have done) or going custom. (Or a magic gear, which is a huge pain in the butt. )

Then the ENO hub came out which allowed you to use a frame with vertical dropouts.

But now there are quite a few road SS/FG bikes available. It's not like you don't have choices.
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