just dont take the plumb bob thing as absolute, it's a starting point and an easy way to see if your knee is forward of the pedal spindle. I can't have my knees directly over or forward without making them feel like jello

Just curious - for a bike with a steeper seat tube than most road bikes (75.3 degrees) should I expect to have me knee a little more forward of the spindle?

/wefffdeffeferg

I feel like this guy is trying to **** me through the youtubes

That was a great video, I learned a lot. Thanks for posting it. He has a really soothing voice. In a few years, he could be the Bob Ross of bike fitment videos.

I have no clue what angle he's measuring in this clip. The rider's leg is 49 degrees away from being straight and there's no way in hell he's talking about the angle as it's labled.
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Is he talking about the angle from ankle to knee? On my measurements I got 10 deg there.

Anyway, I think I pretty much nailed it. Little did I know my saddle was too far forward. I guess I'll have to try this fit on the road before I'm totally sold.
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How do you shoot lasers out of your eyes Charlie?

Looks pretty much right Epic, TT thanks for the video, now I canvince my friend his saddle is way too low and thats why his knees hurt

Took my 721 out for the first time today. I like it way much. The fit is pretty much perfect with the 58, the extra stiffness was noticeable right away, there's almost no toe overlap (as compared to my Affinity), and the steeper angles combined with the longer wheelbase make for pretty nice responsive and balanced handling. Needs a new wheelset so I can get rid of the clankity old junk wheels I pulled off my other bike, but other than that it's pretty awesome.

I forgot who used to say it in SS/FG whenever fit came up

fore/aft position will also affect how well you can support your upper body with your core. Too far off and you will be resting too much weight on your hands which leads to pain and numbness

To echo what you were saying; try this, when you're on a straight road with good surface, take your hands off the drops and place them behind your back. If your position is correct, you should be able to hold this position while you're doing hard efforts.

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.htm
This is an informative article; however, fit is a personal thing, what he wrote could be complete trash to you.

Today I got drunk at a club with a chick I work with. I got too drunk to drive home so she said I could crash at her pad. I get into her room, strip off all of my clothes/buttnekkid, and jump into her bed and pass the **** out.

Are you posting from her bed? How long were you passed out? How did all this happen before 11:07 pm? Did y'all hit the club @ 4pm?

Tell me she joined you...

Tonight I prepped for tomorrow's cookie making party at Misskaz's house. I'm making candied ginger and brown butter sugar cookies with an orange and Angostura gastrique drizzled over them. Awesome.

It happened last night. We don't have a thread titled "Last night I:". She didn't join; there were two other people there and they were shocked that I did what I did. When you're drunk and see a bed - you go for it.

getting ready for final critique tomorrow morning

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fresh kicks bro!

I woulda killed for a pair of those in 1979.

got hipster'dissed by the staff at the LBS. i don't care if you wear skinny jeans, japanese tattoos and have 2" stretched lobes. heck, in high school i wore the required white buttondown with hand drawn Suicidal Tendencies "vato loco" artwork on the back....but....

just needed some rim tape and got: "ppphtt. dude, come on. if you just -look around- we're in winter mode! besides, i think we were out of that stuff anyway before we switched over to snowboards for the season."

given that the shop's name is Bikes'n'Boards, i didn't feel i was being unreasonable in my expectations. :)

Sounds like you need to find a new LBS. Preferably one that is only bikes... all year 'round.

Today I:
Got new kicks!*

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*kitty not included in purchase.

So when I read the text I was like:

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...and then I saw your shoes and I was like:

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Today I went on a short, but hilly 26º bike ride. Fell on a patch of ice on on a slight decline, that was fun.

Today I tried out the new fit on the road. Just needs a few little adjustments but otherwise it feels good. Probably gonna switch back to my other stem which is about 10mm longer and get a different set of bars. (Short stem is 25.4mm and long is 26.) I'm not a huge fan of my Road Champions so I'm not going to shim it. Now begins the search for drops that I like.

Obvi some compact drops.