The "Should I..." Thread
#2702
Should I sell my Novatecs to A23's to fund Novatecs to Archetypes?
I need more stiffness. More/thicker spokes and a deeper rim. I'm too heavy/strong for these. Major brake rub front and rear.
New build would be:
Front:
28h Archetype
Sapim Lasers
Sapim Brass nipples
Novatec A291SB or A141SB
2 cross
Rear:
32h Archetype
Sapim Race
Sapim Brass Nipples
Novatec F162SB or F482SB
3 cross
I need more stiffness. More/thicker spokes and a deeper rim. I'm too heavy/strong for these. Major brake rub front and rear.
New build would be:
Front:
28h Archetype
Sapim Lasers
Sapim Brass nipples
Novatec A291SB or A141SB
2 cross
Rear:
32h Archetype
Sapim Race
Sapim Brass Nipples
Novatec F162SB or F482SB
3 cross
Last edited by Nagrom_; 03-13-13 at 09:07 PM.
#2703
sɹɐʇsɟoןןnɟsʇıbɟɯo
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should i have my frame builder buddy with a CNC lathe mill down my dura ace 7800 hub so i can run other cassettes besides 10sp shimano?
#2704
Ya, go for it so I can stare at your bike some more.
If there aren't any negative repercussions after, why not?
Should I buy a few pairs of new bib shorts or a few pairs of new jeans?
I only have 2 bibs, but on the other hand i've been ignoring my wardrobe for about a year and spending literally all my money on bike stuff(finishing my pake and now my cdale.)
Should I buy a few pairs of new bib shorts or a few pairs of new jeans?
I only have 2 bibs, but on the other hand i've been ignoring my wardrobe for about a year and spending literally all my money on bike stuff(finishing my pake and now my cdale.)
#2705
Thread Starter
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i only had two pairs of bibs over the summer and i was just rotating them every day.
BUT if you go the bib route, and if you don't already have some... i would recommend investing in some nice bibs. i notice a big difference in the chamois quality and placement between my $110+ primal custom bibs versus my $40 pearl izumis. i'd wear my primals every ride if it were hygienic.
BUT if you go the bib route, and if you don't already have some... i would recommend investing in some nice bibs. i notice a big difference in the chamois quality and placement between my $110+ primal custom bibs versus my $40 pearl izumis. i'd wear my primals every ride if it were hygienic.
#2706
#2707
Should I sell my Novatecs to A23's to fund Novatecs to Archetypes?
I need more stiffness. More/thicker spokes and a deeper rim. I'm too heavy/strong for these. Major brake rub front and rear.
Rear:
32h Archetype
Sapim Race
Sapim Brass Nipples
Novatec F162SB or F482SB
3 cross
I need more stiffness. More/thicker spokes and a deeper rim. I'm too heavy/strong for these. Major brake rub front and rear.
Rear:
32h Archetype
Sapim Race
Sapim Brass Nipples
Novatec F162SB or F482SB
3 cross
#2708
The A23's are great, don't get me wrong. They handle amazing, but the rubbing is ridiculous. My calipers have to be pretty much open to stop them from rubbing.
I'm hoping the Archetypes handle similarly, but will be stiffer.
I'm hoping the Archetypes handle similarly, but will be stiffer.
#2709
Anything you would suggest other then rapha?(I know it's extremely nice, just can't justify spending that much money)
#2710
Why not get a pair of bibs and a pair of jeans? instead of all or nothing?
#2711
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nagrom - i would say a deeper rim is in order, as well is higher spoke count. don't know what your A23's are spoke count wise, but I would go one step up with a deeper rim too.
jdg - if your friend has means to precisely characterize the dimensions of the hub and is good with some g-code software like autocad or solid works, then absolutely CNC that ****. If he plans on operating the machine manually, then do what you want but those are expensive hubs and you better have a lot of trust in this guy.
jdg - if your friend has means to precisely characterize the dimensions of the hub and is good with some g-code software like autocad or solid works, then absolutely CNC that ****. If he plans on operating the machine manually, then do what you want but those are expensive hubs and you better have a lot of trust in this guy.
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#2712
Honestly i'm trying to get my cdale together as as fast as I can. I can buy nice bibs or nice jeans OR by both and dip into my groupset fund in the process which i'm trying to avoid but slowly considering.
#2713
I'm kinda done worrying about weight. Don't really want to sacrifice performance for a handful of grams.
****, the caad will still be under 15.5.
#2714
Word. I would agree with this statement based on these two rear wheels. I really like and still have the A23 hoop on standby.
current - 32h archetype (slightly deeper rim) to high flange hub with lasers. just a solid rim from the time you unpack it, and through the build and out to the road.
previous- 32h A23 to 105 hub with dt comp spokes. solid wheel overall and yes they handle just as well.
if you can get anything from that, cool, but the current rim is staying put.
current - 32h archetype (slightly deeper rim) to high flange hub with lasers. just a solid rim from the time you unpack it, and through the build and out to the road.
previous- 32h A23 to 105 hub with dt comp spokes. solid wheel overall and yes they handle just as well.
if you can get anything from that, cool, but the current rim is staying put.
#2715
#2716
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From: seattle, too many links
Bikes: fixed gear recumbent trike
jdg - if your friend has means to precisely characterize the dimensions of the hub and is good with some g-code software like autocad or solid works, then absolutely CNC that ****. If he plans on operating the machine manually, then do what you want but those are expensive hubs and you better have a lot of trust in this guy.
he built my custom track bike and my cycle truck.
im sure he'll want to do it just to say he did (crazy kids)
also, FU SHIMANO FOR MAKING SOMETHING SO SPECIFIC
#2720
Brown Bear, Sqrl Hunter
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From: San Jose, CA
Bikes: CAAD 10 4, Dolan DF4, Fuji Track Classic
#2722
Brown Bear, Sqrl Hunter
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From: San Jose, CA
Bikes: CAAD 10 4, Dolan DF4, Fuji Track Classic
#2725
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thats hawt. red hubs would be kewl, but possibly ever so slightly overkill. either way imo
Sick well do it up! Make sure you post pics.
We have a CNC at work that some of my co-workers operate. I'd like to come in during off-hours a couple hrs/week and teach myself how to operate it and how to use software like solidworks. Same goes w the 3d printer.
thats hawt. red hubs would be kewl, but possibly ever so slightly overkill. either way imo
We have a CNC at work that some of my co-workers operate. I'd like to come in during off-hours a couple hrs/week and teach myself how to operate it and how to use software like solidworks. Same goes w the 3d printer.
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