AT222

Should I buy an internal gear hub system for my Traitor Luggernaut? The Spacing on the rear is 120mm with horizontal drop outs. I don't want to buy a road bike at this time and would like more freedom on the hills down here in Texas. Going to use this bike for light workouts over the Winter. I've already checked out the Sturmey Archer product offering but would like to know what other options are out there. Any help is appreciated

-Thanks

CJWIZVRDGVNG

How hilly is your area? I personally wouldn't spend the money on an IGH for "light workouts." I would just try to change your gear ratio to handle the hills better.

Scrodzilla

Black.

hamfoh

Black.

They must like you. I don't know how you got a response so quickly on that day. I've tried to contact them twice and it seems like it's gonna take 2 business days to get a response unless they sneak one in to me here in the last few hours. Last time the 'hold order' button wouldn't hold my order and I ended up paying their full shipping price to ship some tubes because by the time they responded they had already shipped my shiz D:

btw the tubes they sell aren't boxed

GMJ

I wish I ran 167.5mm crank arms. Sub $200 for a new set of Omniums is outrageous.

hamfoh

you get can get Omniums omniums under $200 at a few places I think. don't be lured in by the black chainring for $60

Decepticondc5

damn. anything close velocity wise? If not i will being doing the FOER it seems

Scrodzilla

Velocity's black anodized finish is a lot closer. FOER 41s are powdercoated and glossy.

Decepticondc5

ahh thanks. I was thinking foer because if its not gonna even be close might as well go all the way and own it.

markaitch

my "should i" q involves wabi wheels as well but before i get to it...

i am looking at my 10 day-old wabi wheelset & it is not a matte finish. they have a gloss finish, it is just not high-gloss. perhaps the right term would be semi-gloss?

Decepticondc5...do i understand correctly that you bought a wabi front wheel & are now searching for a rear to "match"? are you looking at alternatives just to get a deeper rim? to what purpose? if you are looking for what you think is a stronger wheel, lemme tell you...these things are pretty damn tough. i jump down & ride up curbs, go down small steps, & even rode them off-road too, including a little session at a mtb park & so far...no problemo. can only hope they hold up long-term to the abuse, but unless you are looking at other rims for your rear wheel just for looks...you may have goofed by not getting both wabis.

now on to my own dilemma...

i am planning a long road ride this weekend & the rear wheel on the bike i mean to use is really out-of-true so i swapped my new wabi set onto it yesterday & love the results. i was never unhappy with the other wheelset, am quite satisfied with their performance & even kinda like the flashy deep rims. but it is hard to describe what a pleasure it's been riding this bike for the past day on the wabi wheels & i am tempted to leave them on it.

but then my problem is what to do for wheels on my other bike, which i do take off-road pretty often & especially since blue wheels really do not match that bike. i would have to either buy another wheelset or somehow strip the powdercoat (or is it anodized?).

here is what my "road" bike looks like with the 2 different sets...





so after that cool story brah, my question is...

is it really worth the xtra trouble & expense to keep the wabis on this bike? or should i make it easy on myself & just put the blue wheels back on it & the wabis back onto the other?

Scrodzilla

This doesn't look like a gloss finish to me:



As far as your blue wheels are concerned, stripping the anodization and polishing can be done but it's a pain in the ass. I say sell them and buy what you want.

Decepticondc5

how much do you weigh?

I am just over 200 and then i have about 40 pounds of **** with me at times ratting around campus

gilmatic

Should I build my front H+Son SL42's with a 20 hole spoke count or should I stick with 32's? I ride my bike on and off the track so I'm not so sure if I should ride with a 20 in the front when I'm on the street.

markaitch

well, my wheel dilemma continues...

should i buy a set of new ellipses for $450?

my plan would be to put them on the plated bike pictured above. then i could put my wabis back on the bike they were meant for & try to sell my blue wheelset in order to recover a few bux.

while i have been trying to force myself to look more for shallow or box rims, i have to admit that i am a sucker for deep rims, so it is hard to pass-up a nice deal on the ellipses. but i do wonder if they work on that frame?

worst of all, the offer at this price expires at midnite so please, i need some feedback asap...

should i go for them?

merry xmas...

edit: btw, Decepticondc5...i weigh about 175 but i do beat the hell out of my wheels, wabis are holding up well so far

jaded_fable

Should I...

Build a silver Foer 41 rear, with a silver Velocity Aerohead in the front, or dual silver A23's? -With silver hubs and spokes for both sets.

On this bike:

hairnet

matchy matchy

yummygooey

2x A23!!

EpicSchwinn

Mmmmm... I almost wanna say dual polished Foers on that. I think they would go well with your silver and white. The bike is already pretty bright and shiny so they'd be right at home on it. - that is if weight isn't a big concern. Regardless of what you choose, I think you should try to match rims.

Lilcphoto

I would like to start a new thread but I'll go ahead and ask here:

Today I had a few questions answered while I was at the LBS about my first Canti setup... but all of my questions were not answered.

Basically... I am in need of cable hangers

for the front I have the option of a
Stem mount:


...Or I could go with a
fork mounted cable hanger:


Although a concern I had about fork mounted was the use of a fender as well as a front mounted rack.

...As for the rear setup I have the options of either a

seatpost clamp with integrated hanger:


...or something like the

Surly hanger...:


... Basically, this is my first cantilever setup and I never realized the amount of options one has for cable holders and the like. I will most likely go with a fork mounted cable guide (that performance one looks flush mount so adding a fender and rack look plausible) and for the rear I'll most likely go with a hanger (mostly to keep the cost down... It would be nice to find a funky monkey)...but I would love to hear about other peoples setups and what interesting things people have come across when setting up their canti bikes.

calbob76

okay options:

1. big block: love the geo love tire clearance no negatives besides i'm just itching for something different

2. 721 + i05 fork: geo looks okay besides the long-ass top tube (i'm thinking it would make sizing wonky), not sure on tire clearance but it's not confined to 23's so that's okay, alum + carbon is different than steel

3. any other recommendations? I'm pointing towards big block right now

TejanoTrackie 

I say keep the Big Block. It's the perfect frame for what you want and excellent quality as well. If you want to try something else like alu / carbon, then save your pennies and get build a second bike with the emphasis on lighter weight / stiffness / tighter geometry / smaller tires for the sense of performance when you want to feel fast and won't be riding bad roads.

OTOH

I have a 721tr that I've set up for speed and a Soma Rush that is for comfort. They're both awesome rides, but the Rush has much longer legs due to the comfort of steel over alu / carbon. The 721tr is like a razor with instant response and no flex, but a bit buzzy on anything by smooth surfaces. The Rush is like a refined German touring car, excellent handling with a firm but comfortable ride. The finish on the Rush is exemplary, whereas the 721tr is rough but competent. If you want something a bit more lively, but still want larger tires, get a Rush. It kinda splits the difference between the Big Block and the 721tr.

striknein

Fork mount cable hangers tend to be a little stiffer than stem-mount, but depending on frame/fork geometry and the size of your straddle cable you might have clearance issues. Basically you need a good amount of axle-to-crown length on the fork in order to run a fork-mount hanger. In practice, I've never noticed a difference between the Tektro stem-mount hanger and a fork mount. I'll also say that the integrated binder bolt on the stem-mount makes stem changes/adjustments a breeze, for whatever that's worth.

For the rear, I like the Surly cable hanger. It's dead simple to install and adjust, and looks cool too. However, it does force you to run a little more brake cable housing than Sheldon recommends (just look at the QBP image). Of course, you also have the option of digging through the parts bins at your local co-op and taking your pick of any number of options from the last 45 years or so... they all work just as well.

Lilcphoto

Update:

I went to check out performance's fork mount cable hanger (as it looks the best for a front rack) and they also had a seatpost collar with hanger... both on sale for $9.99 so I snagged them up. Can't wait to find a set of brakes and get this thing rolling.

hamfoh

should i trade my used sugino 75 chainring (49t) for a brand new 46t sugino zen racing chainring? I have no real need for either, just figured selling a new product may be easier than a used one.

TheRealFaux

This is a no-brainer