I want to upgrade my fakey, and this frame + a new BB and headset looks like a good choice... https://www.amazon.com/Track-Fixie-Ro...ref=pd_sbs_sg5 it claims to come from a reputable factory, almost as though it's identical to a higher end frame, is that BS or what? I don't really care if it isn't, but I'd like to know if it's garbage. Any thoughts?

You'd probably be better off with a visp off ebay. Especially since that seller has a whopping 1 feedback, not to mention amazon takes a pretty big cut so people tend to up their prices.

Forgive my ignorance, what the hecks a visp?

And here it is again for the same price after shipping on ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/Track-Fixie-...ht_1496wt_1272 all the feedback I can find on the frame is positive

These things

They look pretty much identical to the one you linked on amazon. There's various types floating around and people seem to generally be happy with them for the price-range.

you're right about them seeming almost identical.. I'm leaning away from wanting a branded frame.. eh would you think that with the positive ebay feedback and the identical price to the amazon one it would be worth it?

They sell non-decaled visps also.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/mycycoole/m....&_trksid=p3686

Please note the 115mm rear spacing...

Holy crap, I didn't even realize that.

Paint it celeste.

Was just looking on sheldon brown, according to there 110 is old track.. 114 is 3-4 speed so what the heck would it be spaced 115 for?

Because someone somewhere between the design table and the factory made some mistakes.

Maybe I'll just get a leader frame from you.. we'll see.