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#6076
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
I'll probably replace the wheelset either way(thinking this one), do you think the Salsa cockpit is nicer than the Ritchey or were you primarily recommending I wait based on the better wheelset?
#6077
Yeah, All City already marked the 2012 down a bit, plus they give an additional discount for bike shop employees. I was just curious if your call to wait was based on the wheelset or the cockpit, because I think I'd prefer the Ritchey cockpit to the Salsa one, but not for any particular reason.
I'll just have to see when my Tarmac sells and figure it out from there. Maybe I'll build a wheel set first and wait for the 2013 to become available. Thanks for the advice to my scatterbrained decision rambling.
I'll just have to see when my Tarmac sells and figure it out from there. Maybe I'll build a wheel set first and wait for the 2013 to become available. Thanks for the advice to my scatterbrained decision rambling.
#6078
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Only thing I could gather is that the WCS's are suede, and the colors besides black don't wear very well because of that.
#6079
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Yeah, All City already marked the 2012 down a bit, plus they give an additional discount for bike shop employees. I was just curious if your call to wait was based on the wheelset or the cockpit, because I think I'd prefer the Ritchey cockpit to the Salsa one, but not for any particular reason.
I'll just have to see when my Tarmac sells and figure it out from there. Maybe I'll build a wheel set first and wait for the 2013 to become available. Thanks for the advice to my scatterbrained decision rambling.
I'll just have to see when my Tarmac sells and figure it out from there. Maybe I'll build a wheel set first and wait for the 2013 to become available. Thanks for the advice to my scatterbrained decision rambling.
If you'll be building the wheels, have you considered Archetypes?
Last edited by Scrodzilla; 11-13-12 at 10:06 PM.
#6080
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Thanks Leuky. Anyone know about performance differences? Same mold and all that right? Just asking because I remember something about the updated Turbos not being as good as the re-issues.
Only thing I could gather is that the WCS's are suede, and the colors besides black don't wear very well because of that.
Only thing I could gather is that the WCS's are suede, and the colors besides black don't wear very well because of that.
All Concor Supercorsa saddles are suede except the white one (which is smooth leather) and Supercorsa X (which is synthetic/vegan). I'm in love with my Concor.
#6081
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Questions answered. You guys are awesome.
#6082
For some reason, my mind always jumps to A23s when I consider a wheelbuild, but I'd build an Archetype wheelset. Any idea how they'll hold up to braking?
#6083
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Your cog is slipping.



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From: Beverly MA
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They're made with a machined sidewall and anodized after machining.
H+Son's anodizing seems to hold up pretty well. Angie's SL42 on her 722TS shows no sign of brake wear after nearly 7 months of riding. YMMV on a road bike when braking all the time.
H+Son's anodizing seems to hold up pretty well. Angie's SL42 on her 722TS shows no sign of brake wear after nearly 7 months of riding. YMMV on a road bike when braking all the time.
Last edited by Scrodzilla; 11-13-12 at 10:34 PM.
#6084
Count me in then, I'll give them a shot. Still thinking Novatec hubs, any other recommendations?
#6085
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
I still stand by Novatecs. Unless you're looking for something flashier, they really can't be beat for the price.
#6086
No need for flashy. If they're as solid as their track hubs(which it seems they are), I'll be more than satisfied with them.
#6087
Got any recommendations for a fork to go on a pompino?
<$200, 1 1/8", canti studs, not a boat anchor, fender eyelets, room for 32's, maybe crabon
(For cx purposes and all weather HTFU'ing)
<$200, 1 1/8", canti studs, not a boat anchor, fender eyelets, room for 32's, maybe crabon
(For cx purposes and all weather HTFU'ing)
#6088
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Joined: May 2011
Posts: 117
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From: Wichita, KS
Bikes: 1988 Trek 800, 200? Fuji Marseille [shimagnolo], 2010 Windsor The Hour
Weinmann DP 18 - Cool super-cheap rim or super cheap POS rim? Need something that comes in red to slap on the roadie. Not sure if I really care enough to get anything notable.
#6089
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Your cog is slipping.



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DP18s are decent for the money but they're heavy (687g claimed but it's probably higher).
In all honesty, unless you're getting a screaming deal on a complete wheelset I think you should spend a few extra bucks and get Velocity rims. Deep Vs weigh in at 520g and Fusions are only 475g (actual weight on my shop scale) if you still want that deep look.
Last edited by Scrodzilla; 11-14-12 at 06:03 PM.
#6090
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Your cog is slipping.



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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Send me an e-mail so I don't forget between now and going back to the shop in the morning.
#6091
Looking for a long-lever flat bar brake lever with either 23.8 or 26.0mm clamp diameter. Cross levers and BMX style won't do the trick -- levers too short.
Buddy wants a lever to replace some POS thing he filed out to fit his track drops.
I can't dig anything up -- know anything that might work?
Buddy wants a lever to replace some POS thing he filed out to fit his track drops.
I can't dig anything up -- know anything that might work?
#6092
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From: Wichita, KS
Bikes: 1988 Trek 800, 200? Fuji Marseille [shimagnolo], 2010 Windsor The Hour
Are you just buying the rims and building wheels with them or a pre-built set?
DP18s are decent for the money but they're heavy (687g claimed but it's probably higher).
In all honesty, unless you're getting a screaming deal on a complete wheelset I think you should spend a few extra bucks and get Velocity rims. Deep Vs weigh in at 520g and Fusions are only 475g (actual weight on my shop scale) if you still want that deep look.
DP18s are decent for the money but they're heavy (687g claimed but it's probably higher).
In all honesty, unless you're getting a screaming deal on a complete wheelset I think you should spend a few extra bucks and get Velocity rims. Deep Vs weigh in at 520g and Fusions are only 475g (actual weight on my shop scale) if you still want that deep look.
I don't mind weight, really. But I may end up splurging on Velocity anyway.
Thanks!
#6093
Still kicking.


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Looking for a long-lever flat bar brake lever with either 23.8 or 26.0mm clamp diameter. Cross levers and BMX style won't do the trick -- levers too short.
Buddy wants a lever to replace some POS thing he filed out to fit his track drops.
I can't dig anything up -- know anything that might work?
Buddy wants a lever to replace some POS thing he filed out to fit his track drops.
I can't dig anything up -- know anything that might work?
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#6094
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Joined: Oct 2011
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From: LA/OC
Bikes: kilo tt pro
looking to have a front wheel laced w/ a kinlin xr270 to novatec a165sbt -- am i able to radial lace on this hub? 24h setup
i used the spoke length calculator, not sure if i have all the measurements correct. does this look about right?
i used the spoke length calculator, not sure if i have all the measurements correct. does this look about right?
#6095
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Novatec high-flange track hubs can be radial laced without any issues. Your calculations look good to me and in my experience, that spoke calculator is very reliable.
#6096
would the usage of alloy nipples on alloy rims be worth the risk of them seizing on an all weather/cx bike just because i want them to be red?
#6097
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From: Boston
Bikes: blkmrkt nsf / GT ZR 3.0 (custom build) / Kona Dawg (custom)
When the hell were you at RedBones?
#6098
When I google FSA Orbit CF-33 I get pictures of two different looking headsets, with the same specs. What am I missing?

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]Color[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]Black[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: seqbpevenrow"]
[TD]Weight[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]69g[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Material[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]Carbon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: seqbpevenrow"]
[TD]Steerer Tube[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]1 1/8" to 1 1/4" Tapered[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Crown Race[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]33.0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: seqbpevenrow"]
[TD]Stack Height[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]16.6mm[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bearing Type[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]Angular Contact[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: seqbpevenrow"]
[TD]Headset Type[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]Integrated Upper 42.0mm O.D 45 deg bearing, Lower 47mm OD, 45 deg bearing[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Defined Color[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]Black[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: seqbpevenrow"]
[TD]S.H.I.S Upper[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]IS42[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]S.H.I.S Lower[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]IS47,33[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: seqbpevenrow"]
[TD]S.H.I.S. Clamp Diameter[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]28.6[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

FSA (Full Speed Ahead) Orbit CF-33 Headsets for tapered headtubes.
For 1-1/8" to 1-1/4" steerer tubes
42mm Upper Headtube Inside diameter
47mm Lower Headtube Inside diameter
33mm Crown Race
Internal bearings set directly in the headtube
45/45degree ACB
Integrated style bearings fit directly into headtube
Steerer Tube: 1 1/8" to 1 1/4" Tapered
Headset Type: Integrated Upper 42.0mm 45/45, Integrated Lower 47mm 45/45
Color: Black
Crown Race: 33.0
Stack Height: 16.6 mm
Bearing Type: Angular Contact
Material: Carbon
Weight: 69.0g
I dun get it.

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]Color[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]Black[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: seqbpevenrow"]
[TD]Weight[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]69g[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Material[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]Carbon[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: seqbpevenrow"]
[TD]Steerer Tube[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]1 1/8" to 1 1/4" Tapered[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Crown Race[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]33.0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: seqbpevenrow"]
[TD]Stack Height[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]16.6mm[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bearing Type[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]Angular Contact[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: seqbpevenrow"]
[TD]Headset Type[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]Integrated Upper 42.0mm O.D 45 deg bearing, Lower 47mm OD, 45 deg bearing[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Defined Color[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]Black[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: seqbpevenrow"]
[TD]S.H.I.S Upper[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]IS42[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]S.H.I.S Lower[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]IS47,33[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: seqbpevenrow"]
[TD]S.H.I.S. Clamp Diameter[/TD]
[TD="class: seqbpdata"]28.6[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

FSA (Full Speed Ahead) Orbit CF-33 Headsets for tapered headtubes.
For 1-1/8" to 1-1/4" steerer tubes
42mm Upper Headtube Inside diameter
47mm Lower Headtube Inside diameter
33mm Crown Race
Internal bearings set directly in the headtube
45/45degree ACB
Integrated style bearings fit directly into headtube
Steerer Tube: 1 1/8" to 1 1/4" Tapered
Headset Type: Integrated Upper 42.0mm 45/45, Integrated Lower 47mm 45/45
Color: Black
Crown Race: 33.0
Stack Height: 16.6 mm
Bearing Type: Angular Contact
Material: Carbon
Weight: 69.0g
I dun get it.
#6099
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
#6100
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
You'll most likely be fine if you keep your bike relatively clean. If your bike will be getting wet/dirty for long periods of time without being cleaned, it also helps to put a drop of light oil (like Tri-Flow) where the nipples meet the rim every now and then.




